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Subject: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: Once Famous Date: 26 Jan 05 - 10:03 AM Michael Moore's and Mel Gibson's most recent movies were both passed over in Oscar nominations. With all of the hoopla regarding their respective (or disreptive) works, neither movie will go down in history for even being nominated for filmdom's most time honored and prestigious awards. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: Charley Noble Date: 26 Jan 05 - 10:09 AM Yep. Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: Amos Date: 26 Jan 05 - 10:10 AM Well, of course. Neither of them are Oscar material. Neither of them won the Nobel Prize, either!! They did both win a different, but important award. Here's a clip from Newsmax: Gibson, Moore Top People's Choice Winners List NewsMax.com Wires Monday, Jan. 10, 2005 Two controversial films that defied the odds to earn millions at the box office joined a familiar green ogre to take top honors at the 31st Annual People's Choice Awards on Sunday. The Michael Moore film ``Fahrenheit 9/11,'' which took a critical look at President Bush's actions after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, won the favorite movie award, while Mel Gibson's explicit ``The Passion of the Christ'' won in the favorite drama category. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: Amos Date: 26 Jan 05 - 10:36 AM Jay Leno's report: Academy Awards nominations) Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ" got nominated for three lesser awards, cinematography, makeup, and musical score. Apparently Hollywood felt the movie looked great, but the story wasn't believable. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: GUEST Date: 26 Jan 05 - 10:41 AM People went to see or rented Moore's movie because of media hype than for actual content. His pseudo documentary style of presentation should disqualify it from even being considered as a movie. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: Jim Tailor Date: 26 Jan 05 - 10:41 AM Tell the cinematographer, the makeup artist, and the musical scorer that they are up for "lesser" awards. Sour grapes is so unbecoming. Taste.....you know... sour too! *grin* |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: Amos Date: 26 Jan 05 - 10:52 AM Anonymous negativity from an infamous nameless negativity nabob -- how opersuasive!! A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: John P Date: 26 Jan 05 - 10:55 AM Michael Moore refused to enter his movie in the best documentary category. He only entered it to be considered for best movie. Since it was really not a very good movie, or even a viable documentary, I'm not surprised it didn't get any nominations. I agreed with most of points he was trying to make in the movie, by the way. If he had presented his evidence as a straight documentary, without all the suppositions about motives and all the personal opinions, it would have been a very powerful film. As it was it left me cold, and I'm a fairly radical left-winger. I was wishing for some journalistic integrity. I didn't see Mel Gibson's movie, but by all accounts it was beautiful to look at and grusome to watch. So maybe it got the nominations it deserved. John Peekstok |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: Peace Date: 26 Jan 05 - 11:11 AM Gibson's movie bored me, and Moore's movie was interesting, but I feel much as John P does. Jus' the facks, ma'am, jus the facks. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: Cluin Date: 26 Jan 05 - 11:16 AM Moore is not a documentary maker; he's a propogandist, really. Documentaries are objective and he's as far from that as you can get. That's not a negative criticism. I can understand being objective for a documentary on nature or some other science or ancient history. But how to remain objective about the political and social world you are living in?... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: GUEST Date: 26 Jan 05 - 12:06 PM Moore is a documentary maker. It's called "point of view" documentary. He is from the same school of documentary filmmaker as Jean Vigo, Edward R. Murrow, Barbara Kopple, Morgan Spurlock, Chris Hegedus, Jose Maria Berzosa, Errol Morris, or D.A. Pennebaker. If you don't know who they are, you are talking out yer arses about documentary film. And actually, I'd have to say "F 9/11" is a damn site better than that bloated Scorcese biopic shite. Mel Gibson's excremental work of the year, OTOH... But I love the Leno joke! And excuse me, but since when are the US Academy Awards considered the height of honor and prestige in the film world for anything except Hollywood box office? The Academy Awards are a friggin' joke among serious filmmakers. The only thing an Oscar is worth is in real terms is negotiating funding for your next film. Moore was playing it smart (and I'm sure advised to submit the film for best picture by Harvey), and that is why he submitted it for best picture. It's worth a whole lot more at the box office as a Best Film nominee than it is as Best Documentary nominee. Had it been nominated, his production company and Miramax would have stood to gain a whole lot more profit. But considering how well it has already been done, I'm sure they are fine with things the way the are. The film already won the much more prestigious award--no, NOT the Peoples' Choice Awards. The Palme d'Or at Cannes. Moore doesn't need the money anymore--now he is just looking to get funding for his and other filmmakers films. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: Once Famous Date: 26 Jan 05 - 12:30 PM But they were nominated for NOTHING. Not just best picture or best documentary. Many, if not most nominations, even excluding best producer or director, are technical and even artistic in nature. Best cinematography, sound, costumes, lighting, etc. These two movies as it turns out, did not rate for ANYTHING. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: GUEST Date: 26 Jan 05 - 12:37 PM "These two movies as it turns out, did not rate for ANYTHING" So they're kind of like your opinions MG ? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: GUEST Date: 26 Jan 05 - 12:50 PM If I were Michael Moore, I wouldn't be terribly concerned about his film not mattering to the bloated and corrupt Hollywood elite. It's not like they matter for anything. Not too many indie films ever get nominated for anything by the Academy. This should not be cause for great concern to the indie film world. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: Once Famous Date: 26 Jan 05 - 01:00 PM To first Guest: No not my opinion. The obvious opinion of the academy, AS FAR AS ANY AWARD RECOGNITION GOES. My opinion on these two movies is that I would not waste my time going as the subject matter to me is irrelevant. To Second guest: From what I read Michael Moore thought that his "Hollywood elite" liberal Dem butt buddies expected at least some nods of approval from them. Something. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: GUEST Date: 26 Jan 05 - 02:08 PM The Best Film nominations are a joke this year. Other films not nominated: Eternal Sunshine Kinsey Vera Drake (my choice for best of the year) Undertow House of Flying Daggers Moolaade While Gibson's film was undoubtedly the most violent film ever to get a general release, though "beautifully filmed" (spit) I have to say it was also possibly the most mawkish, maudlin and predictably cliched film of the year. But I don't blame The Mel for that--it was the material he had to work with that made it that way. And as far as "F 9/11" goes, though it wasn't Michael Moore's best film, it was certainly the most entertaining and interesting film of the year. As was the drama that surrounded and unfolded around it--would have been worthy of a sequel a la "Pets or Meat: The Return to Flint". I'm really looking forward to "9/11 1/2". There is no mention of the Academy Awards at Moore's website. However, they are definitely glowing with their win at the Peoples' Choice, which would be the much more meaningful award to Moore anyway. From his website: Dear Friends, Last night, at the People's Choice Awards, "Fahrenheit 9/11" was named the Best Movie of the Year. It was a stunning moment for us. And, somewhere inside the Bush White House, someone there must have been stunned, too. 21 million people voted in the People's Choice Awards. They chose our film over "Shrek 2," "Spiderman 2" and "The Incredibles." If we can beat that many superheroes, surely we can survive the next four years... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: GUEST Date: 26 Jan 05 - 02:13 PM And I might have added "Motorcycle Diaries" to the list, but I haven't seen it yet. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 26 Jan 05 - 02:26 PM These Gibsons... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: Once Famous Date: 26 Jan 05 - 03:01 PM The People's choice Awards are not nearly as important in the FILM industry as the Oscars. Movie's aren't remembered for winning People's Choice Awards but the movie that wins the Oscar this year will always be remembered as the best picture of 2004 25 years from now. So many Guests. I am going to reserve the right that as long as you want to remain nameless, I can picture you all as fat, bald, and with a beard. I will probably be right in just about any case. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: Amos Date: 26 Jan 05 - 03:24 PM Bla, bla, bla, Martin. Your pictures are not very interesting to anyone outside your thick little skull. Abuse abuse abuse... must be the Chicago hot dogs you A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: Once Famous Date: 26 Jan 05 - 04:01 PM Look what Amos has become! One of Mudcat's skid marks. Because I have made him look bad, tell him that I don't subscribe to the world according to amos, and others have backed me to that effect. Typical. The first ones who cry abuse are the ones who have run out of other excuses for their behavior. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: gnu Date: 26 Jan 05 - 04:53 PM Martin, you have a lot of good viewpoints and I respect your opinions. However, I am taken aback by your constant caustic comments. Especially when they don't make sense, as I pointed out to you in a recent thread in which you took me to task for something I did not say and did not even imply. Your 04:01 PM post is not even written within the confines of English grammar - it simply does not make sense. Perhaps your underlying need for acceptance or validation is fraught with the need to appear superior, regardless of who you impinge with your vile spite. In any case, I advise you take an effective writing course or, perhaps, a grade school level grammar course, such that you may be more concise in your (secondary) efforts to piss others off. Seriously, I like your attitude. I like your comments on many topics. I like your insight on many discussions. However, your quickness to visciousness belies your very nature. I called you an idiot on that previous thread. You are not an idiot. You are a bully... just a bully. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: Cluin Date: 26 Jan 05 - 05:21 PM Sometimes Martin Gibson reminds me of Al Capp coming by to visit John & Yoko in Montreal in `69. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: gnu Date: 26 Jan 05 - 05:24 PM How so ? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: Cluin Date: 26 Jan 05 - 05:27 PM He might have something to say worth hearing, but he often comes off as an asshole. C'est dommage. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: gnu Date: 26 Jan 05 - 05:31 PM Well, many of us do by times. But to do it all the time, there has to be some underlying animosity against the world. His prolific postings are, for the most part, consistant and well founded, but the crass, false indignation serves no purpose but to undermine his credibility. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: GUEST Date: 26 Jan 05 - 06:24 PM Martin Gibson, you can't make Amos look bad. You have forfeited all right to credibility. The only person you can make look bad is yourself and you've done a masterful job of that. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: Amos Date: 26 Jan 05 - 06:47 PM Thanks, Guest -- you'll get yer check in the mail!!:) I quit, Martin. I'm going back to being a dumb observer. Whynchew do the same. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: Bill D Date: 26 Jan 05 - 06:55 PM powerful, important movies are not necessarily 'good entertainment', and that is what Hollywood mostly rewards with Oscars. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 26 Jan 05 - 07:24 PM Maybe the reason Mel Gibson's movie wasn't nominated is because they already gave him a Best Picture Oscar for one piece of crap movie and they wanted to be sure not to make the same mistake again. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: GUEST Date: 26 Jan 05 - 07:56 PM Yah! No kidding! That piece of shite beat out 'Sense and Sensibility', 'Apollo 13', and the delightful 'Il Postino'. Friggin' 'Braveheart'! It sucked SO BAD! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: jaze Date: 26 Jan 05 - 07:57 PM The Color Purple was grandly snubbed, too. It was a very good movie(although one I could never watch again). Whoopie Goldberg deserved an Oscar for that movie. Instead she got a guilt Oscar the following year for her role in Ghost. While I love all things Whoopie,and she was great in that movie, she truly deserved it the year before. It was an incredible performance, especially by a "commedian". Hollywood politics. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: GUEST,Peter Woodruff wdyat12 Date: 26 Jan 05 - 08:07 PM Many religeuos people and Republicans did not see either film. We need both to vote for good films. Why won't you watch what you preach? Peter |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: GUEST Date: 26 Jan 05 - 08:16 PM Yeah, I remember that. But then, I thought the winner that year was a better film than 'The Color Purple'--it got beat by 'Out of Africa'. But then again, it was a good year for films. That was also the year that 'Kiss of the Spider Woman' was nominated too. And there were MUCH better films than 'Witness' and 'Prizzi's Honor' that got overlooked that year too: 'Trip to Bountiful', 'Agnes of God', and the astounding 'Ran'. But I know how you feel when your favorite gets beat out. I also never got over the fact that 'Rocky' beat out both 'All the President's Men' AND 'Taxi Driver'. Go figure! At least with 'The Color Purple', it didn't lose out to the likes of 'Rocky'! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: Once Famous Date: 26 Jan 05 - 10:17 PM gnu, how many men do you try to demasculate everyday? What are you, a librarian who goes around saying ssshhhhhhhh all of the time? Sometimes I have to type fast and wish I had more time to edit things, but you get what you see. Go talk to John from Dull about spelling and grammar. Amos, you really do need a break, dear. Please take your Porsac. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: Nerd Date: 27 Jan 05 - 03:57 AM Martin, You're kind of talking out your ass here. First of all, as was pointed out, Mel Gibson's film WAS nominated in several categories: cinematography, score and makeup. Cinematography in particular is a major award. So your statement, several times over, that these films weren't nominated for ANYTHING is just you shouting your ignorance. Second, as a documentary film, 9/11 is simply not eligible for most of the awards besides best picture or best documentary: it had no score, no makeup, no costumes, no actors, no screenplay, no sound design, etc. Given its budget and the types of cameras it used, cinematography was out. The only things it might get besides documentary (for which it was not in consideration) are best picture, best director and perhaps best editing. It's not in the least surprising that the academy would not nominate it for any of these things, nor does it reflect badly on Michael Moore. Despite your desperation to badmouth his achievement, Moore has produced what is quite simply the most successful documentary ever in terms of both popular and critical success. It is in fact a "Point Of View" documentary, as our GUEST has said. This is a recognized category, and when people without much knowledge of documentaries complain that a documentary filmmaker isn't "objective" or that a documentary should present "Just the facts," they miss the fact that most documentaries don't fit their narrow criteria. I disagree with John P. when he says it did not have "journalistic integrity." In journalistic terms, think of it as (say) a feature article in Rolling Stone rather than a wire report from the AP: it has facts in it, but it also has the author's feelings and opinions, and presents the feelings and opinions of interviewees as well. It is not necessary--and indeed it is rare--for the author of a feature article on the Beatles to present you with the point of view of someone who hates the Beatles. Instead you get quotes from people who think the Beatles are important and worthwhile. Sure, you could interview Joe Schmo who thinks the Beatles sucked or Meyer Scwartzfob who never heard of the Beatles, but most writers wouldn't, would they? And no one complains that they lack journalistic integrity. Such articles, while they do present facts, are also clearly products of the author's point of view. It's the same with Michael Moore. Why is this so wrong? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: GUEST Date: 27 Jan 05 - 07:30 AM Hey Nerd. I agree. The most ridiculous, ignorant criticisms of Moore are that he isn't "objective" and he doesn't make documentaries because he doesn't use "facts". Which is, of course, a crock. He has an army of researchers who work for his production company. The film 'F 9/11' was mostly film footage from the networks and/or their correspondents. The people who badmouthed the film mostly never even saw it--they were just echoing what they heard from the right wing echo chamber. The mainstream media whores HATED the film, because it made them look really, really bad. Deservedly so, considering they were cheerleaders for war in the post-9/11 game, especially in the case of Iraq, where the US media's reporting was at complete odds with the reporting of the media in the rest of the world. 'F 9/11' showed how frighteningly clear it has become that the US mainstream media is now functioning as the propaganda wing of the US government. And you know, I could have like The Mel's film, if he had only shown that Jesus' fate was no different than that of any other criminal being crucified in those times. But then, that passion thing wouldn't seem extraordinary, now would it? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: GUEST,Amos Date: 27 Jan 05 - 08:49 AM Nerd: Wisely writ and well said. Thanks for your exemplary expository style. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: GUEST,DD Date: 27 Jan 05 - 08:11 PM Wow are there ANY threads around here that Martin doesn't feel a need to jump in a start cursing over? I cannot imagine getting so upset over other people's opinions of movies to start cursing and ranting. I guess movies must be exceedingly important to him to get such a response. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: Donuel Date: 27 Jan 05 - 08:37 PM Mel sticks it to the Jews in Hollywood with his next movie... http://www.angelfire.com/md2/customviolins/melmoses.jpg ...just kidding, I hope. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: Amos Date: 27 Jan 05 - 08:56 PM Big grin, Donuel A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: John P Date: 28 Jan 05 - 08:55 AM Nerd, I agree with you about the nature of documentaries. The reason I was disappointed in F 9/11 is that it looked to me like Moore's objective was to sway the opinions of lots of people. I think he could have done that more effectively if he didn't so clearly have an ax to grind, and was sometimes grinding it in a mildly nasty way. Being so clearly partisan in his reporting made it easy for people to suspect his facts. I guess I do expect more objectivity in political reporting than in articles about bands in Rolling Stone. I don't necessarily think he had to present facts or opinions from the other side of the debate, but a bare and unshaded presentation of the facts he gathered would possibly have been a more powerful film. I liked the film, by the way. I just think a slightly different film could have had more impact, and maybe changed the minds of a few more Republicans. John Peekstok |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: Amos Date: 28 Jan 05 - 09:37 AM You are probably right, John. I would add that we need to remember the context at the time he was making the film; Bush had steamrolled the rules and bought himself a kingship and the nation was mesmerized. The 9-11 shock -- first invasion on this soil since the white folks got here -- was still running up and down people's spines and there was a lot of fear, a lot of fear-mongering, and it was the worst of "red-scare" days all over again. In the middle of this witch-hunt and blind-follow noise, when those who could think for themselves were feeling pretty alone, shut up and stifled, Micahel Moore provided a crystallization for a clearer and saner voice; he called bullshit loud and clear. He catalyzed the dispersed protest and the seekers of clarity everywhere and brought them out in their thousands as nothing else had been able to do, and strated a counter-movement singlehanded. For that alone, he shall sit on the right hand of the angels just grinning. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: GUEST Date: 28 Jan 05 - 10:08 AM "The 9-11 shock -- first invasion on this soil since the white folks got here..." Waht the fock? Somebody smokin' crack? What invasion? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: GUEST,Larry K Date: 28 Jan 05 - 10:57 AM I wouldn't feel sorry for either of them. Mel Gibsons movie made about $800 million world wide, set all kind of box office records for a foreign language film, and proved all the critics wrong. I would say that is enough. The Moore movie got a standing ovation in Cuba and was well received by terrorists throughout the Middle East. What more could Moore want? Wasn't that enough? Beside, it grossed enough to keep him in cheeseburgers for the rest of his life- well, come to think of it- the way he eats maybe only a few more years. Too bad about the millions Moore spent lobbying his film in that swank hotel, and the 53 meet and greets he hosted, and having to clean up his appearance to be oscar worthy. didn't look like it paid off. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: GUEST,Frank Date: 28 Jan 05 - 05:14 PM Farenheit 911 is a good movie. It has a life of its own regardless of what the Oscars have to say. The reason it's good is that it tells of how the Black Caucus was ignored in Florida. No film or TV news broadcast even touched on this issue. It also has poignant scenes of a mother who lost her son in Iraq. It also shows the revealing of Bush and his close ties to Arab leaders and the military industrial complex. It tells the truth but that's not for Oscar to determine. I didn't see the Passion because I knew enough about what it was about not to want to see it. It is anti-Semitic and depicts a warped vision of Jesus. I read enough about it and saw the previews to determine that Mel Gibson might have some of his father's prejudices. The Oscars have never really been about quality. Another complete Oscar miss this year was Hotel Rwanda with the exception of the lead actor being nominated. The movie was powerful and will endure. The Academy is a stodgy bunch of old guard movie people. I'd go with Cannes or Sundance as a more valid judge of substantial movies. Frank |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: Once Famous Date: 28 Jan 05 - 05:41 PM He might have cleaned up his appearance, but underneath is still some bad B.O. and a soiled pair of underpants from too much bad food. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: Nerd Date: 28 Jan 05 - 11:25 PM It's the Larry K selected and invented facts game! Here are some more facts: Mel Gibson's Movie only made about 600 million, not 800 million, according to Box Office Mojo. It got a standing ovation from the KKK, and was well-received by racists, anti-semites and twisted sadists all over the world. What more could Mel Gibson want? Michael Moore's movie set all kinds of box office records for a documentary and proved all the right-wing pundits wrong. I would say that is enough. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: robomatic Date: 31 Jan 05 - 06:15 PM |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: robomatic Date: 31 Jan 05 - 06:17 PM Sorry, accidentally hit the submit Here's a link to an animation involving commentary by a squirrel with an attitude: Foamy on Passion vs Zombies |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: Donuel Date: 31 Jan 05 - 06:44 PM While one movie can be fact checked and the other is strictly a matter of faith and hearsay its too bad they both share anything in common whatsoever. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: Donuel Date: 31 Jan 05 - 06:46 PM http://www.angelfire.com/md2/customviolins/mel5.jpg http://www.angelfire.com/md2/customviolins/bushmoore3.jpg |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: Raptor Date: 01 Feb 05 - 01:39 PM What was anti-semetic about the passion? I saw it but don't remember it that well, I thought it was kind of boring. Raptor |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: Amos Date: 01 Feb 05 - 01:55 PM Thanks, Robo....Foamie is one of my favorite Helpers of the Universe!!:D A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: GUEST,Mrr Date: 01 Feb 05 - 05:08 PM IMHO, only Moore was snubbed - his movie was good enough for a mention. Gibson's wasn't, so it isn't a snub not to nominate it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: maple_leaf_boy Date: 16 Aug 10 - 03:23 PM This sounds like Mel Gibson. Mel Gibson - Jew Hating Schmuck |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: maple_leaf_boy Date: 16 Aug 10 - 03:24 PM Oh, did I already post this on another thread? I don't remember, but I think this sounds like something that Mel would do. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: Stringsinger Date: 17 Aug 10 - 11:43 AM Speaking of bad food, Chicago hotdogs are some of the worst. Speaking of bad breath. The "Passion" had old J.C. being the product of meat tenderizer. The Fundies loved this film because it spoke for them. Micheal Moore has a consistent rep as a documentary film-maker going back to his TV days. You may not agree with him but he makes his points with clarity and conviction. Whereas Mel should just be convicted. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp Date: 17 Aug 10 - 11:47 AM You got a lotta nerve dissin' Chicago hot dogs. Whadda you know about it? Geddadahere! - Chongo |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: Stringsinger Date: 17 Aug 10 - 11:54 AM The Academy Awards is a joke. You pay to play. Only a few pix deserve any award they give. It may sell sell-u-loid but as for quality, it's the MacDonald's of the movie biz. Glad that Moore got it though. Mel puts more alcohol in his meat tenderizer. Roasted J.C. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Michael Moore & Mel Gibson Snubbed From: Rapparee Date: 17 Aug 10 - 12:55 PM When I meet either one on the street I cut them. I was brought up not to associate or even recognize people of their sort. |
