BS: Friends of beardedbruce?

Subject: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: Nerd
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 03:44 PM

DOWNTOWN TOLEDO

Thieves hit Democratic Party offices; computers containing sensitive data removed

By ROBIN ERB
BLADE STAFF WRITER

Thieves shattered a side window overnight at Lucas County Democratic headquarters in Toledo, stealing computers with sensitive campaign information and triggering concern of the local party's ability to deliver crucial votes on Nov. 2.

Among the data on the stolen computer of the party's office manager were: e-mails discussing campaign strategy, candidates' schedules, financial information, and phone numbers of party members, candidates, donors, and volunteers.

Also taken were computers belonging to Lucas County Commissioner Tina Skeldon Wozniak and to a Texas attorney working with the Kerry/Edwards presidential campaign to ensure election security.

The thefts have prompted the Kerry/Edwards campaign and Democrats in Washington to offer help and have left local officials fretting about the crime's impact on the upcoming election, in which Ohio plays a high-profile role.

"This puts us behind the eight ball," party spokesman Jerry Chabler said. "This can affect our entire get-out-the-vote operation."

Ohio's Democratic Party pledged to deploy volunteers, lend computers, or "provide whatever source of assistance they need," said spokesman Dan Trevas.

The political importance of Lucas County cannot be overstated, Mr. Trevas said.

"It's a major Democratic county in a swing area, surrounded by Republican and moderates," Mr. Trevas said. "A lot of votes come out of northwest Ohio."

Both President Bush and Sen. John Kerry have campaigned throughout the region repeatedly. With a saturation of television ads by both parties in the local market, it has become one of the most contested regions in the country.

Barbara Koonce, the office manager, said information on her computer had not been backed up since August. "I try to do it at least once a month, but we've been so extremely busy here, it's not the first thing on our minds," she said.

Beyond the missing data, the break-in also might have lasting "collateral damage" because 25 to 50 volunteers come to the headquarters to make phone calls, send out campaign information, and "do the necessary grunt work," in any campaign, Mr. Chabler said.

[...]

Two other computers, holding less sensitive information, were untouched, as were a petty cash box that usually holds $80 to $100, televisions, portable radios, and other electronics. Moreover, other offices inside the building, 1817 Madison Ave., were not entered. Files, papers, and pamphlets remained in neat piles, and campaign signs leaned, apparently undisturbed, against a wall.

"They knew what they wanted," Mr. Chabler said, calling the incident a 'third-rate burglary,' " a not-so-subtle reference to the break-in at National Democratic Committee offices in 1972 that began the Watergate scandal that eventually led to the President Nixon's resignation.

[...]

Subject: RE: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 03:46 PM

Only shows to go. You can't trust politicians. So, what do these threads have to do with BB or Amos?

Mights well start one that says Friends of Mudcat? about a folk singer who went berzerk.

Jerry

Subject: RE: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 03:50 PM

Folksingers ARE berserk, they don't have to go there.

Subject: RE: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 03:50 PM

*tsk* I see the point, but I'm not sure the point needed to be made with another of *those* threads

Subject: RE: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: Peace
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 03:51 PM

TRUST

POLITICIAN

Talk about a paradox!

Subject: RE: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 03:53 PM

I think all involved, including anyone who responds to this thread, should be stoned, beheaded, shot, hanged, buried alive, sawn in half, poisoned, trampled, stung to death by bees, drowned, burned, racked, flushed, and pulled apart. And then we can get really nasty.

Subject: RE: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: Nerd
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 03:53 PM

I know, it was a ham-fisted way to make the point, but no more so than bb's original thread.

Subject: RE: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: Nerd
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 03:54 PM

I think some of the people involved already WERE stoned, Rapaire. But not beheaded, shot, hanged, etc.

Subject: RE: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 03:56 PM

I also think that we should tell their mommies.

Subject: RE: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: Peace
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 04:22 PM

Bearded Bruce is OK. I find his political views a bit to the right, but I'd guess he finds mine a bit to the left. That's life. Won't slag him over this, though.

Subject: RE: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: jeffp
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 04:23 PM

Now you're going too far!!!!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: Once Famous
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 04:25 PM

Bearded Bruce is OK in my book.

This thread is outragious, unneccesary, complete bullshit, and should be deleted. it is completely bigoted, racist, and biased.

BTW, what's for dinner tonight?

Subject: RE: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: Azizi
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 04:29 PM

Well at least in this thread I know Rapaire is writting tongue in cheek.

Who said I not a fast learner?!

But seriously, I don't think either of these threads have anything to do with the price of beans...or with Amos or Bearded Bruce-

Well maybe Bearded Bruce..

NAW!! [just tryin to joke.. but..it went flat didn't it?]

Well, I'll try again some other time...

Azizi

Subject: RE: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: Pauline L
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 07:04 PM

I generally disagree with BB about politics, but, to his credit, his posts are courteous and civilized and he doesn't stoop to crass personal insults. (At least, that's true of all of his posts that I've read.)

Re the break-in and theft: This is deja vu. It happened back in the early 70s (Watergate).

Subject: RE: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: Ebbie
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 07:18 PM

FWIW, this was recent, Pauline L. Only this: a 'third-rate burglary,' " a not-so-subtle reference to the break-in at National Democratic Committee offices in 1972 that began the Watergate scandal that eventually led to the President Nixon's resignation.' referred to the past.

Subject: RE: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: khandu
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 07:19 PM

beardedbruce & I don't go back a long way, back when he was just peach-fuzzedbruce, & I gotta say this...beardedbruce is probably much older now than he was back then. Generally, I don't post to "Friends of..." threads since there have only been two that I know of & now one of those have disappeared which tells me that there is a good chance this one will do likewise or possibly not, since it is still here at this writing.

Either way, I just wanted to say what I said.

k

Subject: RE: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 07:31 PM

I might disagree with REGISTERED CATTERS, but I respect them and read their posts. Not so with the anonymous.

Subject: RE: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 07:43 PM

Racist? So far as I know, bearded bruce is a member of the human race, but other than that there's not much to go on in that direction.

Anti-human racism, if that's what it is, would indeed be a worrying new phenomenon to have crop up on the Mudcat...

Subject: RE: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 09:33 PM

I love it when you pretend to get upset, Martin. :-)

Chongo says you oughta buy a new hat. A fedora. He says the Sinatra look is coming back. Whaddya think?

Subject: RE: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: JennyO
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 09:45 PM

BTW, what's for dinner tonight?

How about some roast turkey, washed down with some of that turkey turd beer I'm still trying to get rid of :-)

BTW, I agree about this thread. Bit of a waste of time, really.

Jenny

Subject: RE: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: Nerd
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 11:37 PM

Actually, the other thread did not disappear, it just had its title changed by management. I expect this one will go the same route soon. That's fine; it was meant to balance the scales and show how silly bb's other thread was, not to actually accuse him of anything beyond silliness.

True, it's a bit of a waste of time...but the beauty is, it didn't take much time, really!

Subject: RE: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Feb 05 - 12:11 AM

Pauline has evidently missed some of Beardedbruce's finer moments.

Subject: RE: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: Peace
Date: 17 Feb 05 - 12:15 AM

Good to see you, Nerd.

Subject: RE: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: Teresa
Date: 17 Feb 05 - 03:15 AM

Yet more out-of-hand Mudcat silliness.   Someone started that other thread about Friends of Beardedbruce, and this is the retort? C'mon, we don't need any of it. :>

Teresa

Subject: RE: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: Teresa
Date: 17 Feb 05 - 03:20 AM

woops, you see, I got confused. I meant to post that to t'other thread. [sigh] sorry, Ah well, I still don't think we need this. :)

Teresa

Subject: RE: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: GUEST,McGrath of Harlow
Date: 17 Feb 05 - 05:30 AM

If you'd posted that to the other thread it would have been even more confusing, since it's this one which is the retort.

I suppose we're going to get a rash of these "Friends of X" sites now. And then "Foes of X", and so forth...

Subject: RE: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: GUEST,JennyO
Date: 17 Feb 05 - 07:01 AM

Shhhh, Kevin - don't give them ideas!

Subject: RE: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: GUEST,McGrath of Harlow
Date: 17 Feb 05 - 07:07 AM

I'm rather hoping that "predicting" them might even be a way of averting them...

Subject: RE: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: GUEST,JennyO
Date: 17 Feb 05 - 07:26 AM

Well you never know. We'll soon see if that bit of reverse psychology works, eh?

Subject: RE: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: GUEST,Amos
Date: 17 Feb 05 - 10:11 AM

I am a friend of XX. We go way back.

I will be a friend of BB's, too, in the natural course of events.\

I can't count the number of people I am friends with. Delightful thought!!!


A

Subject: RE: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: GUEST,Azizi
Date: 17 Feb 05 - 11:19 AM

And I have friend from A to Z
and thankfully one of them is me..

And that's all she wrote.
That's all folks!

[okay so wrote/folks doesn't REALLY rhyme

and neither of these lines are about
Bearded Bruce

but neither is this thread..

So it's looney tune time at the OK corral..
I mean the Backdoor Tavern..
I mean..
whatever..



Ms. Azizi

Subject: RE: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: GUEST,Azizi
Date: 17 Feb 05 - 11:23 AM

I guess it would have made more sense
if I said

I have friends from A to Z
and thankfully one of them is me..

But I was always wont to rush in where others
fear to trod..

[With ah] hey nonnie nonnie and ah boom boom boom
to Amos, Bearded Bruce, and all the rest
WE know that Mudcat's still the best.
hey nonnie nonnie and ah boom boom boom!


Azizi

Subject: RE: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 17 Feb 05 - 02:15 PM

Over here that might perhaps start:

I have friends from A to Z,
and one of them lives in my head...

Subject: RE: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: Azizi
Date: 17 Feb 05 - 03:52 PM

Greetings, McGrath of Harlow!

I'll accept that line.

and then I'd write the whole thing this way:

I have friends from A to Z,
and one of them lives in my head.
Sometimes we argue out loud
and other times we debate in posts instead.

--
Well it's not great..
but then again, neither is this thread!

Though I've never really met Bearderd Bruce, or Amos
or McGrath of Harlow, or any other Mudcat man, I'm
sure that SOMEBODY thinks that some of them or all of them are
Honorable men {and all the Mudcat women deserve to receive much more than Honorable Mentions too! ;o))

Ms. Azizi

Subject: RE: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: DougR
Date: 17 Feb 05 - 05:47 PM

I haven't seen anything in BB's posts to get unduly excited about. The one re: Amos, was intended with tongue in cheek (though many did not see the humor in it). BB, like everyone else, has a right to write what he wants.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: Pauline L
Date: 17 Feb 05 - 11:34 PM

...and think what he wants.

Subject: RE: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: Peace
Date: 17 Feb 05 - 11:47 PM

The shy is fallin', Doug.

Subject: RE: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: DougR
Date: 18 Feb 05 - 01:35 PM

Better get out of the way, brucie!
DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Friends of beardedbruce?
From: Big Mick
Date: 18 Feb 05 - 07:57 PM

I wish that I would have seen this one earlier as I would have surely deleted the thread. This type of thing should not have been allowed to continue. But given my recent move and sporadic time on Mudcat, it has gotten here. So I will address the thread title.

I have met bruce, listened to his poetry. I am as far left as he is right. And I like the guy a lot. Yes, I am a friend of bearded bruce, and happy to be one. I think his politics are all screwed up. He thinks the same of mine.

Mick