BS: Official UK election thread 2005

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: GUEST,Tory Boy
Date: 01 May 05 - 02:45 AM

labouring party never tell the truth about anything.
They all lie: Blair, Brown, Prescott everyone of them.
The Libdems also.
The only party who are whiter than white and who have not lied in this campaign are the Conservatives.
Come on one final push and we can get the sleezebags out.

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: GUEST,Jez
Date: 01 May 05 - 02:30 AM

Grek, son

It's that old phrase NO PLANS.

It's used by every government, Labour, Tory, whoever.

You have to read the words.

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 30 Apr 05 - 09:13 PM

I was staying clear of this discussion till now, but the latest news made me hit the roof: Blair hit by new leak of secret war plan - The Times

So, never mind Lord Goldsmith's mind and legal advice changing in 10 days - this latest tidbit was 8 months before. Blair had already committed the country to war, even while he was claiming to the House of Commons that "there are no plans for war".

Shit, is this guy for real? Is this our next Prime Minister?

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: Emma B
Date: 26 Apr 05 - 06:40 AM

Guest above - you are certainly NOT one of my "kind of people"! and my instincts tell me I don't want to be anywhere near you or your beliefs

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: burntstump
Date: 26 Apr 05 - 04:50 AM

Is it right that Blair has been nominated for an Oscar? for his portrayal of a Prime Minister.

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 26 Apr 05 - 04:45 AM

It's mine!

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 26 Apr 05 - 04:44 AM

99

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Apr 05 - 04:36 AM

'Racism' is not a new phenomenen. It is a natural instinct within us all to want to be with people of our own kind above all others. It is something that has been with man always and you can never wipe it out.

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: Piers
Date: 25 Apr 05 - 12:06 PM

Have no fear Crystal, there is evidence to suggest that left to their own sordid devices BNP members will kill themselves: see here.

But on a more serious note, I don't think a 'culture' can be belong to anyone. As we socialists are oft pointing out, the right of possesion is also the right to exclude non-possessors. Where would we be, for example, if blues music was the 'property' of its originators?

I don't think folkies have anything to gain from retreating and building walls around the open and evolving traditions of the wherever they live. Also, folkies have nothing to fear because, as shown by numerous historical studies of racism, it is a relatively new phenomenum and I guess they cannot get much support for their irrational beliefs from traditional music.

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 25 Apr 05 - 11:50 AM

TROLL ALERT! TROLL ALERT!

Ignore the BNP and they, and the guest looking for troble will go away.

Bunnhabhain.

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: GUEST,Tory Boy
Date: 25 Apr 05 - 10:19 AM

Weep no more ladies, BNP are a busted flush this election.

Only a very few floating voters in marginal constituencies are needed to win this election and Michael Howard is winning the fight on the doorsteps.

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: GUEST,Crystal
Date: 25 Apr 05 - 10:02 AM

Why should I want my culture to be usurped by rascict scum? Why should I be branded a rascist for performing the music, dance and songs which I love?
You took my country's flag and turned it into a focus for your rascist ideas but a flag is a piece of cloth and we can get a new one. Our culture is a part of our identity and should be sacred.


"BTW the "immigrants, invaders" etc. who came to these isles in the past ie. the Anglo-Saxons, Vikings, Celts, Jutes, Normans etc. were all from closly related European tribes. The mass-immigration we now see is from countries that have no cultural or historical ties with us."

one word

Colonialism!

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: GUEST,Vote BNP
Date: 25 Apr 05 - 08:42 AM

The BNP is a democratic political party and also a cultural movement working to preserve the roots and identity of the native British people. Comments like Crystal's such as "kill them all" only go to show who the real 'fascists' are. We have a right to our opinions. If you don't agree, why don't you debate rather than throw insults and threats?

BTW the "immigrants, invaders" etc. who came to these isles in the past ie. the Anglo-Saxons, Vikings, Celts, Jutes, Normans etc. were all from closly related European tribes. The mass-immigration we now see is from countries that have no cultural or historical ties with us.

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: Crystal
Date: 25 Apr 05 - 07:25 AM

THE BNP IS HIJACKING MY CULTURE!!!!
KILL THEM ALL!!!!

(of course the big joke is that our culture owes more to immigrants, asylum seakers, invaders and people who were just passing through trying to get back home than any other!)

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: GUEST,Vote BNP
Date: 25 Apr 05 - 06:02 AM

Vote BNP! they used some excellent folk/trad sounding music on their broadcast and what they have to say makes much more sense than all the others. www.bnp.org.uk

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: GUEST,Tory Boy
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 11:42 AM

Sorry, it was lazy of me to say celtic fringe when I specifically meant Welsh, Scots and Irish.

All my other remarks and exhortations still stand.

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: fair maiden of nottingham
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 07:01 AM

hi folks,its nice to know politics get into even here.
yes i agree us brits have been around a long time, and its true we are intermixed...but we have kept our heritage, but today it seems we are loosing everything. equal rights,equal ops, everything has rights unless you wish to stay a brit.(and i might add a royalist also)

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 06:35 AM

Second that, John. I'm English, from 800 years of Celtic stock.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: GUEST,John Barden at work
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 06:25 AM

I don't see why I can't be English and celtic as we're a mongrel lot to say the least who have bread with travellers, asylum-seekers and immigrants throughout history. I'm certainly patriotic and wave the flag for St. George, as our fellow celts do for St. Andrew, St. David and St. Patrick, but I will never wave it in the cause of racism. The BNP has nicked my national flag and sullied it - give it back and go!

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: GUEST,Tory Boy
Date: 12 Apr 05 - 12:00 AM

Giok

Tony Blair - and Andrew Marr incidentally - have had the good sense to get elocution lessons to hide their Scottishness. Cyclops has not.
There are too many Scots down here - we paid for them to have their own parliament and they should get back up there where they belong.

St George's Day is coming along. Lets forget labouring party's political correctness and get out and celebrate Englishness unpolluted by the celtic fringe, travellers, asylum-seekers and immigrants.
It is not racist to be patriotic. Wave the flag for St George.

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 10 Apr 05 - 03:46 AM

You'll find Tory Boy that TB is a Scot too, were it not for the Scottish voters New Labour would be a dead duck.
G..

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: GUEST,Tory Boy
Date: 10 Apr 05 - 03:06 AM

The dog whistle issues for today are immigration and asylum seekers.

Lets just see what labouring party make of those!!! Will they say Conservative policies on these issues are half-baked?




ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: GUEST,Tory Boy
Date: 10 Apr 05 - 02:33 AM

If blairy retires the next leader of labouring party
will be cyclops brown.
And he's a bl**dy scotsman!!!
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

You lefties are proper stuffed.

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: GUEST,jacqui.c
Date: 09 Apr 05 - 07:45 PM

But unlike Maggie his party can't get rid of him unless he decides to go.

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 09 Apr 05 - 03:45 PM

Don't hold your breath, Jackkie,

Like all power hungry egotists, Tony won't give up easily. He'll have to be dragged out, kicking and screaming for the cameras.

A bit like Maggie, after she went mad.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: Cllr
Date: 09 Apr 05 - 07:57 AM

Speaking as an actual conservative standing in the county elections on the same day, I rather like brucies suggestion but I have no labour candidate standing against me, just a liberal. Oh well you make do with what you have got - pass the 2by4. Cllr

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 09 Apr 05 - 07:30 AM

Ah Crystal you forget the Glasgow Rangers supporters song, Blue is the Colour, or was it Chelsea, I know and care nothing about football!
G ¦¬]

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 09 Apr 05 - 07:24 AM

I rather think Tory Boy isn't.

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: GUEST,Jackkie
Date: 09 Apr 05 - 07:23 AM

Just how long will it take before Bliar retires, IF Labour win?
It will help me make up my mind whether or not to vote.

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: Crystal
Date: 09 Apr 05 - 07:13 AM

I thought black was the colour!

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: GUEST,Tory Boy
Date: 09 Apr 05 - 07:11 AM

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Great thinking you lot.


ha ha ha ha ha ha ha


Blue is the colour

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: ard mhacha
Date: 09 Apr 05 - 06:21 AM

Don, no chance of that, most candidates will tell you they are all of what you seek, but only when electioneering.

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 09 Apr 05 - 05:30 AM

The pity of it is that some very good (in the constituency sense) MPs will suffer loss of support because of that sycophantic, lying prat who leads them.

And, for those who know that I'm a tory by inclination, yes, I do mean that.

I feel that between the more moderate Tories, and the more genuinely socialist Labourites, and some Lib Dems too, one might possibly be able to cherrypick a government that would come closer to representing all of us, than any we have seen in the past.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: Crystal
Date: 09 Apr 05 - 05:24 AM

gives a new meaning to the phrase MP bashing!

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 09 Apr 05 - 04:46 AM

I could see some attractions in that idea Brucie!
Giok ¦¬]

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: Peace
Date: 08 Apr 05 - 07:41 PM

Best way to beat the Labour candidate is with a stick.

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 08 Apr 05 - 07:40 PM

And nominations have closed for this election....

No, they haven't. They don't officially start until 14th April, and close on 19th. Still plenty of time.
...........................

You aren't suggesting that the Tories aren't rubbish as well, surely jOhn? (And in two out of the three Hull seats the Tory came third last time, so voting Tory is not the best way to beat the Labour candidate anyway.)

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 08 Apr 05 - 04:18 PM

Convicted criminals or felines are barred from voting, as are lunatics, which lets me out!
Giok ¦¬]

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: GUEST,Bunnhabhain.
Date: 08 Apr 05 - 04:07 PM

To be PM, one must be an MP. MPs must be 21, so the a cat would have to be 21. And nominations have closed for this election....

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: GUEST,jOhn
Date: 08 Apr 05 - 12:58 PM

I'm voting Conservative.
Labour are rubbish.

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: Crystal
Date: 08 Apr 05 - 11:44 AM

Damm that is depressing!
Maybe we should vote a cat as PM, cats are much nicer than people and I bet a cats approvel rating would be higher than Mr Bliars, or indeed Draculas.

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: GUEST,Tory Boy
Date: 08 Apr 05 - 11:26 AM

Boab

Very sorry for my ha ha ha affliction.
It's just that I cannot stop laughing about the beauty of this election.
My doorstepping friends, incidentally, are finding that well over 60% of white working class people canvassed are scared of immigrants, asylum seekers (not even bogus!), travellers, gypsies, east-europeans, black and brown people.
We are sure that this is because of the leadership's successful posters which only HINT and as they are non-specific, people fill in their own views.
Believe me, these messages are winning over people who voted BNP, UKIP and were thinking of Veritas too. So you see we're capturing both far left - by defection from labouring party - and far right at the same time!!

I'm sorry but:

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 08 Apr 05 - 08:18 AM

Well Kevin that sort of implies that GWB would listen to the American people, and that would seem to be as plausible as the premise that Tony Blair listens to the British people.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 08 Apr 05 - 08:10 AM

I wasn't talking about the US forces, Boab. They'll go when they are forced out, and a major element in that will be the American people wanting them out.

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 08 Apr 05 - 04:14 AM

Interesting article on tactical voting from the BBC site.

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: Boab
Date: 08 Apr 05 - 03:41 AM

McGrath! You actually have the idea in you head that the USA intends EVER to leave Iraq??? After closing all their bases in Saudi? And after building the world's biggest embassy building in an Iraqi city?
Only the naive could harbour such a notion. The US will leave Iraq when they are physically forced out, or when they are convinced that it is not in American interest to be there. Wait and watch the political skulduggery when any key position in an Iraqi government is filled by one who just might be anti american occupation, or who is brave enough to openly be anti-american. Don't you watch some of the shit that goes on in central America?

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 07:32 PM

When an elected Iraqi government tells the occupation armies to get the hell out of Iraq, I'm inclined to feel that it'll be a bit hard to get away with refusing to comnply.

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: Cllr
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 07:21 PM

The labour party of collapsed round here in midbeds they cant field enough candidates in the county elections plenty of independents and greens though Cllr

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: Peace
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 07:17 PM

Wot? And leave all that oil?

Subject: RE: BS: Official UK election thread 2005
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 07:16 PM

Whatever party wins they will not pull out of Iraq
G