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Books: What have people been reading recently?

John on the Sunset Coast 30 Jul 10 - 01:26 PM
mousethief 31 Jul 10 - 12:42 AM
katlaughing 16 Sep 10 - 08:53 PM
GUEST,Shimrod 17 Sep 10 - 12:02 PM
Stilly River Sage 17 Sep 10 - 05:32 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Books-What have people been reading recently?
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 30 Jul 10 - 01:26 PM

Ebbie--
Heaven forfend that I would be on the "left" coast. In order not to use that term, I always face south, and read maps upside down. Too, when my wife gives me directions, she'll tell me to 'turn not right' by which time we've passed the place to turn. My right hand never tells my "left" hand what it's doing. And of course I'll go to Heaven in the end times because I will not be "left" behind.


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From: mousethief
Date: 31 Jul 10 - 12:42 AM

Johnontheleft(biteyourtongue(!)coast :), all I can say is that if I were to write my autobiography, a lot of it would be fiction.

I think that's true of nearly all autobiographies.

I just finished Trilobite! Eyewitness to Evolution which was fascinating and extremely well written. Am now reading a dummy's guide to the Israeli/Palestinian conflict (forget exact title) co-written by two university scholars, one from each side (so to speak). The Jewish guy is a rabbi to boot. So far a dull recap of Zionist history 1860(ish) through 1939.


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From: katlaughing
Date: 16 Sep 10 - 08:53 PM

HiLo, thanks, I did read Flanders Panel, but not having ever played chess, I liked The Fencing Master better. Both still extremely good, though and I will be reading more of his books.

LOL, Johnontherighthandbackwardsupsidedown...:-)

On Julie Kaewert's website she mentions a prequel to the Plumtree series, apparently posted in 2008 as that is the copyright date on the webpage. I was wondering if any of you have seen it or read it. Here's the info, sounds fascinating:

   
The Writing Master's Daughter
A prequel to the Plumtree series of mysteries for booklovers
By Julie Kaewert
The writing master's daughter has a secret; only she and her father, pen-man for King Charles II, know why she does not speak. But her silence is linked to a secret so ancient and shrouded in mystery that even Grace and her father have no inkling of its significance…until one night the writing-master is seized by the King, setting in motion a terrifying series of events. Grace discovers that her imperfection is actually a gift, enabling her to perceive what others cannot…with profound consequences.
The novel's rich atmosphere is woven from the art of calligraphy, the writing-masters' community in Restoration London, Grace's home in a disused Chapel on London Bridge, the Secret Cabal of Charles II's reign, dangerous spies, secret underground waterways, an ancient encoded illuminated manuscript, the origin of the alphabet, an authentic Secret Treaty, and a daughter's relationship with her father.

Note

Inspiration for The Writing Master's Daughter came from the little-known Secret Treaty of Dover of 1670. In a remarkable betrayal of his people, Charles II promised Louis XIV to lead England in a conversion to Catholicism... in exchange for money. He did succeed in saving England, for without the ships and cash from his deal, the Dutch War would have been lost and England would now be part of The Netherlands.

But Charles's bargain is shocking, not only in his callousness in trading on his peoples' faith, but in its hypocrisy. For during his reign, "popishness" could be punished with death…and all the while he was secretly bargaining to require it!
In the ultimate act of trickery, Charles II reverted to Catholicism only on his deathbed, thereby fulfilling the promise to his cousin at the eleventh hour…while not affecting his people's hard-won Protestant faith. The real irony? Charles was a secret Catholic his entire life.


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From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 17 Sep 10 - 12:02 PM

Back in July I reported that I was then reading a novel called 'Matter' by Ian Banks. At that point I had only read the first few chapters - and was quite enjoying it. I said that I would reserve judgement until after I had finished it. Well, I did finish it ... and, oh dear! After those first few chapters the whole thing seemed to get bogged down and rather went on and on and on about nothing very interesting. Then it finished in a rush, and the ending didn't seem to have very much to do with what had gone before (a monstrous entity, which had hardly been mentioned in previous chapters, put in an appearance and devoured many of the leading protagonists - very silly!!).

I'm increasingly getting the impression that many contemporary, popular authors can't plot for toffee! They have a striking and ambitious idea for a book and they seem to think that it will plot itself. Then, because they haven't worked out the plot in sufficient detail, they get bogged down in the middle part of the book and finally have it rush the ending. Needless to say they rarely seem to be able to fulfil their ambitions. Bring back rigorous plotting!!


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From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Sep 10 - 05:32 PM

I have just ripped two Rex Stout Nero Wolfe recorded book mysteries into my computer to load into my mp3 player.

SRS


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From: Slag
Date: 17 Sep 10 - 05:50 PM

Ebbie (and Sundown John!) I believe it was Mark Twain who said "I remember everything perfectly, whether it happened or not."


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From: Joe_F
Date: 17 Sep 10 - 08:21 PM

_The Catcher in the Rye_ by J. D. Salinger. I first read this about 60 years ago, when I was actually in a prep school, tho it was not much like that one.

_Jews without Money_ by Michael Gold. First read, 1961.


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From: EBarnacle
Date: 17 Sep 10 - 11:11 PM

Currently, at Borders once or twice a week: Ann McCaffrey's and her son's expansion of the dragonflight series; Weber's Honor Harrington series; Eric Flint's 1632 series; Alexander McCall Smith all. I read whatever is currently on the shelves, a bit at a time.

At home: Tribes with Flags, recently completed Koestler's the Thirteenth Tribe; just starting the Night Watch series by Sergei Lukyanenko, which is a translation from the Russian. This is supposedly a police series commenting on current Russian society. I am told it is still dangerous for an author to criticize the Russian powers that be directly.


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From: Ebbie
Date: 18 Sep 10 - 09:35 AM

"Heaven forfend that I would be on the "left" coast. In order not to use that term, I always face south, and read maps upside down. Too, when my wife gives me directions, she'll tell me to 'turn not right' by which time we've passed the place to turn. My right hand never tells my "left" hand what it's doing. And of course I'll go to Heaven in the end times because I will not be "left" behind."John, the Sundown Kid

Ah, but you see, John, when I am RIGHT I am not afraid to admit it. :)

Currently mu main book is Abigail Adams by Woody Holton, about the wife of John Adams, wife and mother of two presidents.
well written, drawn from the correspondence between her and her husband. I have learned a lot of things about her and the time of the Revolutionary War.


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From: Stu
Date: 18 Sep 10 - 10:20 AM

I read Drood by Dan Simmons after it was recommended to me by a retired English professor, although he said he felt ambivalent about the book after he read it. I enjoyed it despite the Americanisms that snuck in (it was written in the first person and the narrator is Wilkie Collins the English novelist) and will read some Dickens as a result. It's a tale that goes into the dark, dank underworld or London . . .

After spending three weeks in the American West this summer (the Dakotas, Wyoming and Montana) I'm still utterly bowled over by the place and can't wait to return to the big sky country, but in the meantime I'll have to be satisfied with reading about it and so am just starting on Cormac McCarthy's border trilogy.


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From: Bat Goddess
Date: 18 Sep 10 - 01:55 PM

While uncovering a bookshelf and rearranging things in front of it, I found "The Destiny of Isabelle Eberhardt" by Cecily Mackworth. Isabelle Eberhardt was a complicated young (she died in 1904 at age 27) woman writer, daughter of a Russian nihilist pope of the Eastern church, who grew up in Geneva dressing in North African male attire. She escaped to Algeria, or maybe headed there on her quest. Converted to Islam, wrote, rode in the desert, was initiated into a Sufi confraternity, married an Algerian soldier, died in a flash flood.

When I reshelved the book, I discovered Cecily Mackworth's memoir "Ends of the World" which, among other things, explained how she came to discover and become fascinated by Isabelle Eberhardt.

So...I spent a couple weeks mostly in the Algerian desert. Then I picked up "Eat, Pray, Love" which I had recently acquired at a yardsale. Wow. I don't usually read best sellers or popular books when others are reading them -- usually well before they become popular or after everyone else has forgotten about them. I don't understand how a film can be made from this book -- other than showing some nice scenery in Italy, India and Bali. There's no PLOT; it's Elizabeth Gilbert's spiritual quest to rebuild her Self after a devastating divorce and complete rethinking of what she wanted in life. This is book material -- not movie material. It can only come across as completely shallow in a movie.

Linn


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From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 19 Sep 10 - 08:15 AM

As Mudcatters know, I have a great affection for Greece and the eccentricities of its people. I also enjoy detective fiction. I have recently discovered two series which combine the two. Anne Zouroudi's series featuring mysterious crime solver Hermes Diaktoros (a Father Brown figure rather than a tough cop) and Petros Markaris' series with Inspector Haritos. Their strengths are not so much the puzzles as the incidental details which bring the world of small islands (Zouroudi) or mainland cities (Markaris) to life.

RtS


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From: GUEST,HiLo
Date: 21 Sep 10 - 09:41 AM

I have jist read the Girl With The Dragon Tattoo, for the life of me I cannot see what all the fuss is about and why it has sold so many copies..have I missed something ? Read February by Lisa Moore, about the sinking of ocean ranger off Newfoundland, best book I have read in ages. Was on the long list for the Booker but was cut, a great shame as it is by far one of the best books on the list.


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From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Sep 10 - 09:44 AM

Charlie Russell's "Trails Plowed Under."


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From: Becca72
Date: 21 Sep 10 - 11:59 AM

HiLo,
I got about 35-40 pages into Dragon Tattoo and had to put it down. I found it painfully boring. I'm told by others that it gets better, but I have my doubts.


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From: GUEST,HiLo
Date: 21 Sep 10 - 12:20 PM

Well, I read the whole thing and I assure you, it does not get better, at least not in my opinion.


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From: katlaughing
Date: 21 Sep 10 - 02:30 PM

For some reason, my dau. has been reading the dragon tattoo series and is looking for the third book. I looked at the first and decided it was not of interest.

Just started One Man's West by David Lavender. Almost done with another Cliff Janeway, bookseller/retired homicide cop book by John Dunning, the "Bookwoman's Last Last Fling."

Also, working through Rob Roy, including Scott's original introduction and appendix with his notes, etc. "Slogging" might be more like it, though I have finally got to the actual novel and am enjoying it much more this time, though I still am not sure how any of us ever trace our ancestors with so many folks changing their affiliation/surnames according to the politics of the day, i.e. MacGregors being proscribed, etc.


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From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 22 Sep 10 - 06:50 AM

The Lives of John Lennon by Albert Goldman, from the early years at the Cavern right through to the shooting of John Lennon. The book is a non-sentimental look at the man. I find myself disagreeing with a lot of things in it but it is still a good read about such a complex man.


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From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 22 Sep 10 - 07:46 AM

I've just finished a book called "Blowing Zen" which is an autobiographical work about an Englishman living in Japan who takes but the shakuhachie(the ancient Zen flute).
It's a great and inspiring read.


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From: Bat Goddess
Date: 22 Sep 10 - 10:27 AM

Just this morning finished "Shackleton's Boat Journey" by F.A. Worsley (captain of the Endurance) book

It was recently given to me by a friend who worked on the Ice for a number of Arctic summers -- she was first at Palmer then at McMurdo.

Linn


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From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Sep 10 - 10:30 AM

I've just started "Hokahey! A Good Day To Die: Indian Casualties of the Little Big Horn."


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From: Amos
Date: 22 Sep 10 - 11:15 AM

The autobiographical memoire of Christopher Hitchens --a really good read on the life and times of the left wing intellectual from 1967 on.


"Hitch 22" can be downloaded here.


A


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From: Bat Goddess
Date: 22 Sep 10 - 11:49 AM

I love Christopher Hitchens' writing -- and, since I'm not finished reading him yet, I sincerely hopes he pulls out of this cancer thing.

Linn


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From: Ron Davies
Date: 22 Sep 10 - 09:40 PM

Hey John on the Sunset Coast--

Have you finished Public Cowboy #1 by Holly George-Warren? I saw you were starting it. I just read it this summer too--- and found it probably the best book I've read in years.   Of course it helps that it's about music--but it's about a lot more.

She was granted unprecedented access by Gene's estate--but also granted total editorial control--did not have to clear anything with them.

As a result it's a clear-eyed picture not just of him but of the early 20th century "western" music business, "western" movie business, and so much more.

So much information--everything from how he got his name (from Orvon Grover Autry), to the tragic story of his mother (tragic practically from her birth) to the way record companies put out the same record by the same artist under totally different names, to the impact of Prohibition on the music business--to the cutthroat business it was--and still is, no doubt.

She takes all sorts of PR stories and evaluates them.

Even includes a really off-color parody he waxed (but obviously it was not released--until the Bear Family).

Talk about straightforward--Gene's own evaluation of himself evidently was that though he was by no means a wonderful actor, singer or guitarist, his main skill was: figures (business).

I'd heartily recommend it to anybody who has the slightest curiosity about any of the above topics--and a lot more.

And it has a huge discography at the end--with lots of songs that are fun to sing.


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From: wysiwyg
Date: 26 Sep 10 - 06:34 PM

About to start as a public-domain audiobook: Passing, by Nella Larsen, available (free) at Librivox: http://librivox.org/passing-by-nella-larsen/

Wikipedia entry:

Clare and Irene were two childhood friends. They lost touch when Clare's father died and she moved in with two white aunts. By hiding that Clare was part-black, they allowed her to 'pass' as a white woman and marry a white racist. Irene lives in Harlem, commits herself to racial uplift, and marries a black doctor. The novel centers on the meeting of the two childhood friends later in life, and the unfolding of events as each woman is fascinated and seduced by the other's daring lifestyle. The novel traces a tragic path as Irene becomes paranoid that her husband is having an affair with Clare (the reader is never told whether her fears are justified or not, and numerous cues point in both directions). Clare's race is revealed to her husband John Bellew. The novel ends with Clare's sudden death by "falling" out of a window.

The end of the novel is famous for its ambiguity, which leaves open the possibility that Irene has pushed Clare out the window, or the possibility that Clare has killed herself.

Many see this novel as an example of the plot of the "tragic mulatto," a common figure in early African-American literature. Others suggest that the novel complicates that plot by introducing the dual figures of Irene and Clare, who in many ways mirror and complicate each other. The novel also suggests erotic undertones in the two women's relationship. Some read the novel as one of repression, while others argue that through its attention to the way passing unhinges ideas of race, class, and gender, the novel opens spaces for the creation of new, self-generated identities.

Recently, Passing has received renewed attention because of its close examination of racial and sexual ambiguities and liminal spaces. It has achieved canonical status in many American universities.


~S~


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From: Joe Offer
Date: 27 Sep 10 - 02:16 AM

My ex-wife lent me The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society, by Mary Ann Shaffer and Annie Barrows. I wasn't at all sure of this, since I have a long list of books-to-read that I've chosen myself, but she gave me the book and it would have been very undiplomatic not to read it.

And I loved this book. The entire book is presented in the form of letters sent to and from the author of a book about the effect of World War II on Guernsey, at British island off the coast of France that was occupied by Germany. The most important character in the book, Elizabeth, isn't present - but her effect on her community is powerful.

I cried at the end. That's all I'll say.

-Joe-


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From: Slag
Date: 27 Sep 10 - 02:55 AM

Just started, "Tragedy and Hope (A History of the World in Our Time)", 1966 by Carroll Quiggley. Generally, it is a history from 1895 to about 1964. My son bought it for me in order that I can talk to him about politics as he understands it ;). I'm on page 50 or so with only 1300 more to go.


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From: Amergin
Date: 27 Sep 10 - 03:08 AM

I've been reading the Allan Quatermain books courtesy of Project Gutenberg.....I enjoyed them immensely as a young boy...


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From: theleveller
Date: 27 Sep 10 - 03:45 AM

I'm finding Peter Ackroyd's 'Albion - The Origins of the English Imagination' absolutely fascinating.So many intriguing resonances coming through that relate to the way I write. It's extremely readable, probably because Ackroyd is a great novelist (Hawksmoor)as well as a superb historian.


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From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 Sep 10 - 07:41 AM

I've been reading several books on loving and forgiving other people (and yourself too). All written by Leo Buscaglia. All excellent.

If you do check any of them out and find that you are far too cynical to enjoy what he says...or you think he's just tiptoeing through the tulips and is naive about human nature....well, you might really be in serious need of what he's talking about! ;-D But that's up to you.

I find that most people have developed along a certain line and have become sort of committed to it...and they are usually not too willing to change. Change requires great effort, and it requires facing pain and then letting go of it.

If a person would rather hold onto old grudges, for example, it's not easy for them to let go of that, is it? But the rewards for doing so are immense, because that load mainly comes off YOU, not the person you were holding the grudge against. Anger consumes the vessel that contains it.

And can you forgive yourself? That might just be the hardest one of all. Most people are more than just a little disappointed in themselves in certain ways...after all, they had expectations of themselves, didn't they? That can be a lifelong struggle to deal with. Believe me, I know.


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From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 27 Sep 10 - 08:11 AM

I'm on my second reading of Nasim Nicholas Taleb's, 'The Black Swan'.

It has to be admitted that the author comes across as rather smug and self-satisfied - but, if you can get past that, he has some interesting things to say. He believes that history, economics and the world in general are much more governed by blind chance than we give them credit for. We believe that 'all swans are white' until a black one comes along and shatters all of our expectations and certainties. He says that human history is littered with 'black swan' events that came 'out of nowhere'. No-one, for example, predicted the First World War or 9/11. Nevertheless, countless people invented narratives to explain these events after the fact.

He gives many examples in the book of humanity's relationship to Black Swans. The one which sticks in my mind is about a casino in Las Vegas. This establishment understood the nature of gambling intimately (of course they did!) and insured themselves against relatively rare big wins. They also understood the various ways in which people can attempt to cheat and had put very sophisticated security systems in place to prevent cheating. Then they were hit with a Black Swan. The IRS obliged them to submit a particular document every time a gambler won money over a certain amount. The clerk in charge of this aspect of the Casino's operation had (for an unknown reason) stored the documents in a drawer rather than post them. The casino was fined a massive amount by the IRS and was nearly bankrupted.

Taleb says that we are like turkeys who believe that they live a pampered and well-fed existence and fail to anticipate Christmas (or Thanksgiving if you're an American).


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From: LilyFestre
Date: 27 Sep 10 - 08:16 AM

I'm reading "Sally Hemings" by Barbara Chase-Riiboud.

Michelle


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From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 Sep 10 - 10:06 AM

Shimrod - I think Taleb's dead wrong and that absolutely nothing ever happens by chance. ;-) But things do appear to happen by chance, of course, because we simply don't know all the factors large and small that are involved in the flow of events, both personal and global.

I probably wouldn't get too far into Taleb's book, I guess...he'd figure I'm out to lunch, and I'd figure the same about him.


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From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Sep 10 - 10:38 AM

LH, I love Leo's books. Haven't read them in ages, may have to do that.:-)

Just finished Ivan Doig's Ride With Me Hannah Montana. His writing continues to astound me...anything I would say would not be enough to do him justice. He is one of the greatest, imo.

Just started On The Road Again A Life On the Road by Chas. Kuralt. Not sure I am in the right mood, but it does promise to be quite good.


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From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 27 Sep 10 - 01:08 PM

"But things do appear to happen by chance, of course, because we simply don't know all the factors large and small that are involved in the flow of events, both personal and global."

Which is exactly one of the points which Taleb makes. I can't really comment any further without tying myself in knots - you'll have to read his book, LH?


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From: Amos
Date: 27 Sep 10 - 01:30 PM

For a really interesting perspective on the evolution of the LEft from early 1960's socialism to the present, read Christopher Hitchen's autobiography, "Hitch-22".

Among many other things he comes up with a clearer defense for the Iraq war than anyone in the administration ever did. And while I hated and still hatet the war and consider it a gross failure of diplomacy and imagination, I am much less rancorous toward Wolfowitz and co., than I was before reading Hitchen's reports.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Books-What have people been reading recently?
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 28 Sep 10 - 05:15 AM

"But things do appear to happen by chance, of course, because we simply don't know all the factors large and small that are involved in the flow of events, both personal and global."

What I should have said, in response to the above quote, LH is that Taleb acknowledges the difference between 'deterministic chaos' and randomness. But he reckons that the difference is academic and that there is no effective difference in the real world i.e. a butterfly flapping it's wings in Dehli might, eventually, cause a hurricane in South Carolina - but you can't work backwards from the hurricane and identify the exact butterfly wot did it.


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From: GUEST,HiLo
Date: 28 Sep 10 - 11:10 AM

I am now halfway through the Aubry /Maturin Books by Patrick O"Brien..they are grand fun and very well written.
I am now reading a book that scares the hell out of me..Homeland by Paul William Roberts.It is a novel about a man who is involved in American policy abroad over a long period of time. But I think it is really an inquiry into the difference between political science and political philosophy. Great read/


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From: Amos
Date: 28 Sep 10 - 11:39 AM

For a genuinely frightening experience read "The Shoick Factor", a seamy side expose of gummint finaglings at all levels.

For a more uplifting and interesting look at things, I recommend "The Tipping Point".


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Books-What have people been reading recently?
From: katlaughing
Date: 28 Sep 10 - 11:58 AM

Anyone read the Charlie Moon mysteries by James Doss? I have really enjoyed all of them until now. Reading Snake Dreams he has completely changed the way he presents the characters whom I enjoy so much and narrates it, writer directly to reader, with a bunch of smary asides on each page. It's so unlike him; it really puzzles me why he did this, how it got past his agent, editor, and publisher. There are twelve in the series and this is the first one I have not liked. Not sure if I'll even finish it which is something I never do!

Still working on Rob Roy, here and there.:-) And, reading Charles Kuralt's A Life on the Road.


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Subject: RE: BS: Books-What have people been reading recently?
From: JHW
Date: 28 Sep 10 - 04:55 PM

John Prebble - The High Girders. Yellowed paperback bought for 20p at Eden Valley Railway
A saga of early railway history north of Edinburgh, the eventual commissioning of the first railway bridge across the Tay, its building and disastrous collapse. The sad dream of engineer Thomas Bouch, many of whose more realistic bridges are still with us.
An engineer myself I couldn't put it down. Read in two days.


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From: GUEST,HiLo
Date: 02 Oct 10 - 09:37 AM

Have just finished The Mountain of Women, Memoirs of An Irish Troubador by Liam Clancy..a wonderful read, especially if you recall that Greenwich Village era of folk. Really enjoyed this book.


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Subject: RE: BS: Books-What have people been reading recently?
From: katlaughing
Date: 10 Oct 10 - 08:42 PM

Just finished Purity of Blood by Arturo Perez-Reverte and, before that, the first of the Captain Alatriste series. Both excellent, very entertaining and filled with witty, wry history of Spain during the later times of the Inquisition.

Thanks for recommending this author. I have really enjoyed everything of his I've read, so far.

Also, just started the Guernsey Literary Club and Potato Peel Pie Society! Half way through and can't put it down. Thanks for that recommendation, too!


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From: katlaughing
Date: 14 Oct 10 - 11:04 AM

Just finished F. A. Worley's Shackelton's Boat Journey. Incredible fortitude!

Also, finished The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society..it was SO good..I cried at the end.


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Subject: RE: BS: Books-What have people been reading recently?
From: Becca72
Date: 14 Oct 10 - 11:16 AM

"Don't know much about History" by Kenneth C. Davis

I'm not that far into it, but it's interesting to see some of the not-so-pretty things that were glossed over in History class...


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Subject: RE: BS: Books-What have people been reading recently?
From: LilyFestre
Date: 14 Oct 10 - 04:00 PM

I'm currently reading Young Bess, a book all about the young Queen Elizabeth I.

Michelle


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Subject: RE: BS: Books-What have people been reading recently?
From: olddude
Date: 15 Oct 10 - 02:20 PM

"Coffee with Groucho"
absolute wonderful. You really think you are there sharing a cup of coffee with Groucho Marx"

laughed till my sides hurt


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Subject: RE: BS: Books-What have people been reading recently?
From: Wesley S
Date: 15 Oct 10 - 02:21 PM

Groucho drank coffee?


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Subject: RE: BS: Books-What have people been reading recently?
From: Joe_F
Date: 15 Oct 10 - 06:29 PM

The Berlin Stories, by Christopher Isherwood. The crazy atmosphere of Germany in the years just before Hitler took power.


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Subject: RE: BS: Books-What have people been reading recently?
From: katlaughing
Date: 15 Oct 10 - 07:56 PM

I'll bet that is really good, Joe F.

I loved some of Ian Frazier's books, so got Coyote vs Acme, a bunch of short I dunno what to call some of them, stories, I guess. Scanned a few, tried to read through some, the title one was cutesy, but the rest was so bad I put it down. Usually I finish a book, no matter. It's just the way I am, but once in a great while...ah, well, his others were great.

I am currently reading The Big Bachi, One Man's West, and a couple of others.


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