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BS: Big Beasts

Davetnova 15 Apr 05 - 03:09 AM
Liz the Squeak 15 Apr 05 - 03:11 AM
Davetnova 15 Apr 05 - 03:20 AM
Leadfingers 15 Apr 05 - 07:43 AM
Rapparee 15 Apr 05 - 09:08 AM
freda underhill 15 Apr 05 - 09:18 AM
SINSULL 15 Apr 05 - 09:20 AM
Liz the Squeak 15 Apr 05 - 10:27 AM
gnu 15 Apr 05 - 10:36 AM
Davetnova 15 Apr 05 - 10:55 AM
Stilly River Sage 15 Apr 05 - 11:40 AM
Peace 15 Apr 05 - 11:40 AM
GUEST 15 Apr 05 - 11:54 AM
GUEST,MMario 15 Apr 05 - 11:57 AM
Rapparee 15 Apr 05 - 12:00 PM
Peace 15 Apr 05 - 12:10 PM
Liz the Squeak 15 Apr 05 - 02:04 PM
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gnu 15 Apr 05 - 02:36 PM
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Subject: BS: Big Beasts
From: Davetnova
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 03:09 AM

Some people like small yappy dogs. I myself have a preference for big slobbery ones. Does anyone else like big beasts.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 03:11 AM

I've always prefered big dribbly ones... the small ones - one bite and they're gone.

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: Davetnova
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 03:20 AM

Big dribbly ones linger longer? I'll make a note of that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: Leadfingers
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 07:43 AM

Whats the point of a dog thats small enough to stand on ? I recall walking into my local Folk Club and thinking "They've got a new mat!"
Then the Wolfhound got up and walked over to check me out !!
'Smallest' dog worth having is an English Bull Terrier - They have muscles in their spit !!


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 09:08 AM

Gimme an Irish Wolfhound! Big, friendly (unless you're a wolf), and if your car breaks down you can saddle up and ride it to work.

St. Bernards, Newfies -- nothing smaller than a Lab.

'Round here, small yappy dogs are called "eagle bait." Or "furry footballs." Or worse.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: freda underhill
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 09:18 AM

pugs, staffies, I like them ugly, not big.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: SINSULL
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 09:20 AM

Size doesn't matter...


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 10:27 AM

Funny, it's usually the blokes saying that size doesn't matter.... but they they're never being towed around the park on the business end of a bull mastiff.

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: gnu
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 10:36 AM

Irish Wolfhound... minds me... Years ago, my landlord got this pup for a watchdog about five months before I moved in to the old farmhouse. He never walked it. What a shame. At five months, this Newf (father) and Shepherd (mother) mix was over a hundred pounds, had long legs and coal black hair. I re-named him "Bear" and I walked him every day.

On our daily walk, we crossed a fairly long bridge with three foot high concrete barriers on the sides. One day, when Bear was about six months old, we were on the bridge and I spied a fellow walking his Irish Wolfhound along the river road we were approaching. Bear and I got to the end of the bridge when the fellow and his dog were about a hundred feet away. I was apprehensive.

Bear spotted the Wolfhound and I got ready. When the Wolfhound spotted Bear he raised his head and stared intently. Bear began barking wildly, made a mad dash to the end of his leash, and fetched up. Despite my command to heal, he continued to bark and fight the leash.

The old leather leash let go and Bear burst forward like a pony out of the gate. He ran about twenty feet before he locked up all four wheels and slid to a stop in the gravel. He looked over his shoulder at me as if to say, "Aren't you going to stop me?" The Wolfhound let out one little snort and Bear, tail between his legs, ran back past me, turned and wedged himself betwen my legs.

Now, as if the fellow and the passersby (and the Wolfhound perhaps) weren't laughing hard enough, Bear began to bark again, at which point I yelled, "Shut up!!" and cuffed him, gently, of course. I led him back home by the collar and I could still hear people laughing when I got to the other end of that long bridge.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: Davetnova
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 10:55 AM

My Lurcher (95%greyhound 5%deerhound) is a bit of a wimp like that. On a leash or with a fence between he's Macho dog, running loose he's scared of every dog on earth.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 11:40 AM

Little beast.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: Peace
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 11:40 AM

The small dogs are easier to cook.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 11:54 AM


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 11:57 AM

Wolfhounds are okay - but for real size get a liger.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 12:00 PM

Yeah, Brucie, but a couple bites and two hours later you're hungry again. Ask the cougars around here.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: Peace
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 12:10 PM

Hey, Rapaire. We have cougars here, too. Here, kitty, kitty, kitty.

Hey, while we're about it: heard while speaking with one of the trappers here that the reason cougars have a rep for being 'willing killers' is that during the winters (which we have lots of) their dentition does not allow them to be able to bite off pieces of frozen flesh. They can't do it the way a wolf, dog or fox can, so they have to eat game while it's fresh (warm, or at least not frozen). Once the flesh freezes, it can no longer be used by the cougar, so it will then have to go kill something else. That is what has given them a bad rep.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 02:04 PM

Cougars must have funny teeth then because the cat family have the finest set of cutting tools ever devised by Mother Nature....

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: Peace
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 02:30 PM

Yes, they do. Also, your cat will not be able to handle frozen food. That is the point.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: gnu
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 02:36 PM

But they are somewhat smaller and poorly rooted compared to those of a wolf. Different jaw structure too. Our coyotes, at fifty pounds, snap off the ribs of a white-tailed deer at the backbone.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: Peace
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 02:54 PM

"Also, your cat will not be able to handle frozen food"

Lest you get picky about this, I am referring to frozen carcass in the wild. I know bugger all about cats in people's houses.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 03:30 PM

So, Brucie, you don't know about my puddytat, cutey-wutey


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 03:32 PM

itsy-bitsy-poo Felicity?

(That's what happens when you push the wrong button.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: gnu
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 03:52 PM

Minds me... last fall at the camp, I was at #6 camp (there are six camps in a row along a stretch of the river) and there was an old bitch who moved very slowly. She was a good sized dog of whatever mix and very well behaved... you know the type. From #4 camp came Rocky, a two year old Golden Retriever, about a quarter the size again of the bitch. He saw her and began huffing and puffing and kind of prancing in, real tough like. She sat quietly, perhaps admiring the hunter's orange vest his doting "mother" straps on him during hunting season.

As soon as he the property line, she blazed at him and proceeded to put the boots to him. After the dust settled, Rocky was high-tailing it back home and she was sitting at the edge of the property with his orange vest in her mouth. Just like in the story above, we were all having a good laugh... but, when she dropped the vest right on the property line, turned, squatted and pissed on it, we fell apart. It was one of those, "I gotta get a video camera." moments.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: ranger1
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 07:16 PM

The bigger the dog, the more he thinks he's a lap dog. I have no use for creatures that are accessories rather than dogs. And I'd worry about losing something the size of a baby rat.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: Peace
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 07:33 PM

Rapaire: I lived with one that looked like that. We were together for three years and she never did get used to me.

(That line was from Will Geer in "Jeremiah Johnson". True in his case--and in mine.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: number 6
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 09:19 PM

I have a 75lb greyhound called Otis. The laziest, dog there ever was. Sleeps about 20 hours a day. I have to drag him out for his walks. The only time he gets up and runs is to greet me when I come from work. That's why I find that dog is so special.

sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: Peace
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 10:08 PM

I have had many memorable dogs pass through my life, but none so special as Tamar. She was a German Shepherd I found by accident at a farm in Quebec. The owners had broken her right ear and her tail. I offered to take her and the asked for some money because she was a pedigree. Her father was the Count of LeMans and I don't recll the mother's name. Her mother was the prettiest dog I have ever seen. Tamar inherited size from her father and looks from her mother. Her temperament was ruined when I met her. Hated the world and suspected everything in it to be her enemy. In her world it was that way.

I took her back to Montreal and spent the better part of a year training her and getting her used to kindness. At the age of two, she understood my hand signals. She developed a wonderful demeanor and had a loyalty that was beyond comprehension. Animals have often captured my heart, but this gal took a piece of my soul, too.

George's dog, Mister, was a Shepherd-Collie cross. He was a misreable thing who made the mistake of growling at me (as he did with many people) in front of Tamar. She had him by the throat, picked him up by it, turned to me and it was plain that the decision the Roman's made about gladiators was a decision I too would have to make about Mister. Mister lived for about four more years.

I got very drunk one evening about four blocks from where I lived. Tamar was with me. She got me home. I remember nothing about that evening. People said she herded me for the whole walk. Wouldn't let anyone else near me.

I took her to a lake in her third year and she jumped off a wharf. She sank and all I could see along the surface of the water was the tip of her tail. I jumped in figuring she'd drown. There she was chasing fish--catching none. I dragged her to the surface and it then struck me that she'd never learned to swim, something I thought came naturally to dogs. When she saw me floating on the surface, she seemed to connect the dots. I was never able to go in the water after that without her. If I went beneath the surface she was close behind me.

A fellow on the street in the city yelled at me for some reason. Tamar got between the two of us and that was the first time I ever heard her growl. I had never seen her angry with a human before that moment. Trust me when I say that seventy-five pounds of pissed off German Shepherd is lotsa pissed off. She didn't attack, but I know she would have had I indicated she should.

The most difficult part of training her was when I would put my hand in her food dish while she was eating. It took days before she would just sit and wait until I withdrew my hand. Making her drop food from her mouth was hard also, but she learned quickly and obeyed completely.

She had a sense of humour and would leave the room when I played music she didn't like. She seemed to enjoy soft songs and not really care for rock. Children were totally safe with her. I saw her from a window when she didn't know I was looking. A toddler was pulling her ear ans had his arm about halfway in her mouth. She was gentle while she worked herself away from the child.

Eventually I had to give her to my aunt and uncle. They had come to love her, and the course of my life was such that I could no longer keep her. I received a phone call when Tamar was eleven. My aunt requested my permission to have her put down. Hip dysplasia was making Tamar's life miserable; she was in pain daily. Of course I said yes. Then I cried for days.

I have few possessions in this world. The ones I treasure are photographs of my children, grandmother and grandfather, and a single picture of Tamar who was my companion and friend for three years. I don't know that dogs love, but I suspect they do. My wish for her is a quiet lake and soft songs. I know she would wish the same for me.

BM


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: open mike
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 10:48 PM

ahhh brucie...nice story///
what a special critter!
She was lucky to be with
you for those years.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: jacqui.c
Date: 15 Apr 05 - 11:04 PM

Brucie, that is lovely.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: open mike
Date: 16 Apr 05 - 12:51 AM

the Saint Bernard, brown and white,
the Newfoundland, black, and
the Great Pyrynees, white,
all have similar size and sillouhette.

all are big.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 16 Apr 05 - 04:03 AM

Bonnie the small Dane - she'd only be about 8 or 9 stone (about 120 lbs). Small and dainty for a Great Dane. Rescue. Sort of leans on things. Getting old now, but so beautiful and graceful (honestly) when younger, fast as a greyhound with those endless legs (but stop and swerve were unknown functions, so small trees used to get a bashing). All blonde apart from the "panda" eye make up, a bit like Dusty Springfield, except that DS did not have black lips and muzzle too.

Jacqui C has seen her in action. Foolish friend brought his Jack Russell (sort of large rat sized and not trained in any respect) to a barbecue, and proceeded (some people are so stupid) to put down a bit of meat for it, right in front of Bonnie. Despite her size, Bonnie could be quick. She leant down, picked the rat up by the middle, carefully put it to one side (as it cried) without marking it anywhere, leant back and ate the bit of meat. Her territory.

The other one is Benjamin who is border collie/lab (probably) and also rescue. Very much the border collie temperament. Being "number two dog" in the pack he guards his status like anything, and is the edgy one of the two. If a burglar came in Bonnie would sit on him while Ben nibbled the edges and tore bits off, I reckon. Too many brains for his own good, and sometimes so desperate to try to talk, he sits or stands and tries to modulate growls and yaps, but a dog does not have the muscles or bony bits that enable speech, and it takes a while to get to know him so that you can hear the difference (which I can), with a result that quite a few people think he is being aggressive when he is simply trying to communicate. Throw sticks for him and he is in heaven. Try to leave them behind and he carries them home - and if he can't find a small one I have seen him manage a small chunk of tree about 8 feet long and four to five inches in diameter. Neck muscles like Lou Ferrigno (amazing Hulk, if you don't get the reference at once). Collars simply slide straight from his shoulders off his nose. Might be 75 lbs, but regrettably the terror of the neighbourhood, and I have to be very careful when walking him to avoid other dogs.   Despite his other intelligence he will not accept that seagulls fly but he can't and he has been known to chase a flock of seagulls for several miles if I don't get the recall command in before he has gone 30 feet, although in most other situations he is really obedient.

And talk about calculating! One time another dog (about his size)tried to take his stick. I have to admit Ben was rougher than required (just one bite, but it was enough), and so fast I did not see it at the time, but two hours later the other dog's owner was at my door with a very large vet's bill. Her insurance covered most of it, but she had to make a police report to claim, and when the dog warden came round, crafty Benjamin knew he was in trouble, and did such an impersonation of a Crufts obedience champion (sat when the warden came in, silenced on command, lay on command, left the room on command, eventually went on his bed on command, and sat there looking sheepish) that the dog warden left saying "I wish all the dogs I saw were so well behaved".


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 16 Apr 05 - 04:07 AM

Cats and frozen food?

I took a whole chicken out of the freezer to defrost once. Put it on the side with a cloth over it, like I always did. Went to the bathroom for a 'read'. Came back 20 mins later (it was a good book) to see just the cloth hanging off the side. Looked all over the kitchen and then the garden. Finally found the remains of the chicken about 2 hours later (chickens take about 6hrs to defrost properly) behind the shed with a very fat and guilty looking kitty wrapped around it....

He'd eaten a good half of this chicken, and it was still quite well frozen when I found them... mind you, he didn't eat for 2 days afterwards!

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: Peace
Date: 16 Apr 05 - 04:22 AM

Liz, I don't really give a shit what your cat did. I am talking about cougars (mountain lions) in -30 degrees in the bloody wild and what a trapper told me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: Peace
Date: 16 Apr 05 - 04:23 AM

PS

If the fellow ever visits this site, you are welcome to argue with him.

Goodbye.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: Mooh
Date: 16 Apr 05 - 07:27 AM

Bigger is better for me, though Rosie The Wonder Dog is only 45 lbs or so. She looks twice as big before her annual spring shave. Have also had a Lab, a Dalmation cross, and a Doberman/Shephard cross, but none of those dogs were half the dog Rosie is. She's part Collie, Springer, and likely a bit of Coyote.

Dogs as small as a house cat are kinda useless in the woods and deep snow.

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: Mooh
Date: 16 Apr 05 - 04:10 PM

...but work pretty good for trophy muskie bait. Mooh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Apr 05 - 05:23 PM

Chu Lai, Vietnam, 1969. Every locker door is plastered with pictures of either the Playmate of months past or wives and children. Except one. My brother's locker has an 8 x 10 glossy of his Irish Setter.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: Peace
Date: 16 Apr 05 - 05:46 PM

I understand your brother, Rap.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: keberoxu
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 03:26 PM

Can you guess why this thread amazes me? No?
I'm not going to tell you.
I'm just going to wait and see how long it takes... this time...


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: akenaton
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 03:35 PM

Because it has "peace" in it    :0)


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: keberoxu
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 03:52 PM

nah....nice peaceful answer though.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: keberoxu
Date: 22 Jan 17 - 03:32 PM

Anybody have barns with beasts in them?
I mean, besides varmints and barn cats?


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: Senoufou
Date: 22 Jan 17 - 03:51 PM

If we're not restricted to big dogs and cats, have a look on Google at Poitou donkeys. They're gigantic, and a funny orangey-brown colour.
I first saw them at the Norfolk Show (big agricultural show) and couldn't believe my eyes. They look more like pantomime donkeys.
I'd like to own one.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 23 Jan 17 - 10:53 AM

From: keberoxu - PM
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 03:26 PM

Can you guess why this thread amazes me? No?
I'm not going to tell you.
I'm just going to wait and see how long it takes... this time...


I guess what amazes you is the fact that no one pretends to have misread the thread title.
Was that really worth reinvigorating a thread that's been dormant for 11 years+ ?


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: robomatic
Date: 23 Jan 17 - 11:55 AM

There was a little old man in the dog park with an ungainly, low slung beast on a leash. Rolly with the Pit-bull laughed himself silly. "That is the ugliest dog I done ever seen!"
The little old man was as slow as his pet. Rolly started lambasting the creature as he gained on the pair. "Your dog has mange, he looks too stupid to live, if I didn't have my Mofo on leash, he'd have him shook apart right pronto!"
The little old man said nothing, just shuffled slowly along. Rolly had finally had it with the unresponsive man and animal. He let the leash off and said "sic 'em!"
Mofo stepped forth boldly and went for the critter. Which promptly turned on him, rolled him over, and chewed him to a pulp.
"Geezus H Jehosophot!" yelled Rolly, "what the hell breed is THAT?"
"Before he got his nose fixed," said the old man, "he was a alligator!"


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: Jeri
Date: 23 Jan 17 - 12:05 PM

Our refreshatrix has struck again.
2005, eh?


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: kendall
Date: 23 Jan 17 - 09:52 PM

I like all dogs as a rule, but, I prefer Yellow Labs, Golden retrievers. Those little runty yapping, snapping shivering cats that bark, I just don't get it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: Teribus
Date: 24 Jan 17 - 02:32 AM

"What's the point of a dog that's small enough to stand on ?"

Without dogs of that size, man's link to the animals would never have evolved.


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: Joe Offer
Date: 24 Jan 17 - 03:30 AM

"Refreshatrix"???
Jeri hit the nail on the head.

Give it a break, keberoxu. One pet thread at a time is enough. One thread on any subject at a time is enough.

What's next? Will Mudcat be overrun by Cute Kitties? Good thing we can't accommodate photos here....

But the worst, of course, is when you refresh nasty threads that have died an honest death.

Remember that "gag me with a spoon" saying that was popular once upon a time?

Please don't refresh threads that are best forgotten, and don't refresh multiple threads on more-or-less the same subject. It makes the moderators think ill of you.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: BS: Big Beasts
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 Jan 17 - 05:48 AM

Er, let's not make everybody feel that thread refreshment is a Bad Thing. OK, trying to dig up old nasties is trollery. But some nice threads from years ago have also been revived, such as the classical music one, which gave me the chance of a whimsical rethink about what I like. We respect the mods for their hard work but we scratch our heads when we see them making work for themselves unnecessarily. It's quite noticeable that revived threads that are of little interest except to the reviver soon sink back down. And thanks for giving me the opportunity to use that lovely palindrome "reviver." Never managed it before!
    Refreshing one pet thread, no problem. Refreshing THREE pet threads is annoying.
    -Joe-


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