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BS: Jennies, Jacks, Donkey's ,Asses...

Shanghaiceltic 21 Apr 05 - 08:27 PM
Rapparee 21 Apr 05 - 08:58 PM
Ebbie 21 Apr 05 - 09:14 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 21 Apr 05 - 09:15 PM
GUEST 21 Apr 05 - 11:37 PM
GUEST,Shanghaiceltic 21 Apr 05 - 11:40 PM
Ebbie 21 Apr 05 - 11:49 PM
GUEST,Uncle DaveO 22 Apr 05 - 09:44 AM
GUEST,A 22 Apr 05 - 10:44 AM
frogprince 22 Apr 05 - 01:02 PM
JohnInKansas 23 Apr 05 - 02:01 AM

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Subject: BS: Jennies, Jacks, Donkey's ,Asses...
From: Shanghaiceltic
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 08:27 PM

I have never heard of the term jennies and jack's. Is it a purely US name.

To me a donkey is a donkey and as you will see below the law is an asse.

The law is an asse


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Subject: RE: BS: Jennies, Jacks, Donkey's ,Asses...
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 08:58 PM

Technically, I think that it's "Jenny" and "Jackass." No offense to anyone named Jenny. Or to anyone named Jackass, for that matter.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jennies, Jacks, Donkey's ,Asses...
From: Ebbie
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 09:14 PM

My father was a horse trader as well as horse trainer and the occasional hinny and mule passed through his hands. A hinny is traditionally considered less valuable than a mule for some reason. Mules, the offspring of a mare (horse) and a jack (donkey), is proverbially tough, surefooted and canny. The hinny (offspring of a stallion (horse) and a jenny) has never had the same reputation. Both the hinny and the mule are sterile.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jennies, Jacks, Donkey's ,Asses...
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 09:15 PM

I have mailed that to my lawyer son.
I found the terms in Webster's Collegiate, but not in Oxford (except jack as short for jackass). Probably just North American, but not sure.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jennies, Jacks, Donkey's ,Asses...
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 11:37 PM

Hinny in Newcastle UK is a term of affection for a lady/girlfriend!

Wonder if they realise that they are being called a horse!


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Subject: RE: BS: Jennies, Jacks, Donkey's ,Asses...
From: GUEST,Shanghaiceltic
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 11:40 PM

That was me above. Also in the navy a derogatory term for a girlfriend was 'horse'


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Subject: RE: BS: Jennies, Jacks, Donkey's ,Asses...
From: Ebbie
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 11:49 PM

But do remember that there is a biblical injunction against coveting one's neighbor's ass. *G*


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Subject: RE: BS: Jennies, Jacks, Donkey's ,Asses...
From: GUEST,Uncle DaveO
Date: 22 Apr 05 - 09:44 AM

As long as we're on the words about these animals:

Ass (no "e" in the singular)
Donkeys (no apostrophe if we're talking about the plural)

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: BS: Jennies, Jacks, Donkey's ,Asses...
From: GUEST,A
Date: 22 Apr 05 - 10:44 AM

Head up your ASS


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Subject: RE: BS: Jennies, Jacks, Donkey's ,Asses...
From: frogprince
Date: 22 Apr 05 - 01:02 PM

True, first hand, personal story: Palm Sunday, about 1974: A very "conservative" church in Pennsylvania: I was to read the narrative of the "triumphal entry": A deacon let me know that
this was one scriptural passage they would prefer to have read
from a translation other than the King James.

Why?

They were uncomfortable with the word "ass" in the text.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jennies, Jacks, Donkey's ,Asses...
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 23 Apr 05 - 02:01 AM

The Jack, Jenny, Mule, Hinny terminology is well established and well known in my area.

From "conversations with grandfather" many years ago, breeding a Hinny was/is considered cruel, simply because the smaller size of the female donkey mother meant that birthing the hinny often was extremely difficult, and often resulted in injury or death for the donkey. The birthing difficulty often resulted in "birth damage" to the hinny, with the result that the future performance of the animal was questionable.

In rare instances, a "good hinny" could be produced, but many, perhaps the majority, of them were of dubious value. A very few farmers that I heard of did attempt to breed a hinny or so. They lost a lot of respect with most of their fellows when they did so.

Mules still are frequently kept by some of the farmers in nearby areas, particularly among the "Amish." If you ever get a chance to visit a "mule race" (sometimes called a "mule rodeo") I'd recommend taking advantage of the opportunity. A well trained mule is a very impressive animal. I'm told "you can't train a mule if you don't show him some respect." The mutual respect between handlers/riders and animals is impressive, and totally unlike the "typical rodeo" where it's all about showing off how macho the cowboys are.

John


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