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Lyr Req: Man Piaba (Harry Belafonte)

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BANANA BOAT SONG
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EDEN WAS JUST LIKE THIS
JAMAICA FAREWELL
TURN AROUND
YELLOW BIRD


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Subject: Lyr Req: birds and the bees
From: Tam the man
Date: 28 May 05 - 01:29 PM

Hello my name is Tom Hamilton.

I'm looking for the words to a song which was recorded by Johnny Silvo called birds and the bees, its a kind of a calypso type thing.

Thank you very much

Tom


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: birds and the bees
From: Peace
Date: 28 May 05 - 06:07 PM

Let me tell ya 'bout the birds and the bees
And the flowers and the trees
And the moon up above
And a thing called "Love"

Let me tell ya 'bout the stars in the sky
And a girl and a guy
And the way they could kiss
On a night like this

When I look into your big brown eyes
It's so very plain to see
That it's time you learned about the facts of life
Starting from A to Z

Let me tell ya 'bout the birds and the bees
And the flowers and the trees
And the moon up above
And a thing called "Love"

This it?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: birds and the bees
From: Leadfingers
Date: 28 May 05 - 08:27 PM

I think its more likely to be 'Man Peeyabba' or however its spelt- with the last line of the chorus 'And the Famous Granny Scratch Scratch'


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: birds and the bees
From: Leadfingers
Date: 28 May 05 - 08:34 PM

Just put [Granny Scratch Scratch] in search and there is most of Man Piaba (Harry Belafonte) though in UK its probably better known from Johnny Silvo .


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: birds and the bees
From: Peace
Date: 28 May 05 - 09:26 PM

Thanks, LF. Sorry about that.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: birds and the bees
From: Tam the man
Date: 29 May 05 - 05:05 AM

Thank you all


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: birds and the bees
From: Tam the man
Date: 29 May 05 - 07:13 AM

here's the website
http://web.telia.com/~u87125666/persona.htm


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: birds and the bees
From: Leadfingers
Date: 29 May 05 - 04:28 PM

Useful web site for info on Mr Belafonte - Lots of lyrics , discography and personnel on the various records !


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: birds and the bees
From: GUEST,Wolfgang
Date: 31 May 05 - 07:05 AM

Just for the sake of the German Mudcatters:

We could hear that as
'Heute male ich Dein Bild, Cindy, Lou....'.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: birds and the bees
From: fat B****rd
Date: 01 Jun 05 - 03:45 AM

Wasn't this a minor hit for Jewel Akins in the early 60s ?


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Subject: torero cha cha cha
From: GUEST,oscar valenzuela
Date: 13 Mar 08 - 07:53 AM

hi everybody!

i'm looking for a funny song about don jose the great torero who confuses the bulls by dancing cha cha. actually he is an escapee from an insane asylum. the music is nice too.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Man Piaba (Harry Belafonte)
From: Peace
Date: 13 Mar 08 - 08:28 PM

Hey Chico, one more time

I met him on a bus in Barcelona
We kinda got to talkin'
But he did all the talkin'
I asked him what he did in Barcelona
In sunny Barcelona
And this is what he said

You are fortunate my friend
Of this there is no doubt
For everywhere I go the people shout

Hey torero make way for Don Jose the great torero
In Spain I am a famous Caballero
I fight the bravest bull in all the land
With the flip of the hip of the music of the band
I cha cha, the bull is so confused because I cha cha
I never kill him, only if he gets in my way
Torero, torero play

He bragged about the many senoritas
Who showered him with flowers
With big bouquets of flowers
He told me that in Holly wood
They want him to be like Marlon Brando
The great big movie star
But as he left the bus he met two men in white
He shouted as they took him out of sight
Hey torero


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Man Piaba (Harry Belafonte)
From: Peace
Date: 13 Mar 08 - 08:29 PM

from

www.lyrics007.com/Renaissance%20Lyrics/Let%20It%20Growr%20Lyrics.html


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Man Piaba (Harry Belafonte)
From: Mrrzy
Date: 13 Mar 08 - 10:11 PM

Wow, I have an answer! Lessee what I can remember without looking anything up...

When I was a lad just tree foot tree
Certain question occurred to me
So I asked my father quite seriously
Tell me the story bout the bird and bee
He stammered and he stuttered pathetically
And this is what he said to me:

Woman piaba and de man piaba
And de tam tam call but de lemon grass
De lilly root, golly root, belly root (unh!)
And de famous randy scratch scratch

It was clear as mud but it covered de ground
And confusion made de brain go round
Went and asked a good friend of mine
Known to the world as Albert Einstein
he said, Son
From the beginning of time of creativity
There existed the force of relativity
Pi R squared and minus ten
is rooted only when
Hey, de solar system is de one light year
When the Haydn pnanetarium disappear
But if mount Everest doesn't move
I am positive that it will prove
That the woman piaba...

It was clear as mud but it covered de ground
And confusion made de brain go round
Grabbed a boat and I went abroad
(something something) as Sigmund Freud
He said, son
From your sad face remove de grouch
Put de body upon de couch
I can see from your frustration
A neurotic (-erotic works here too!-) sublimation
Hey, love and hate is psychosomatic
And your Rorschach shows that you're a peritatatic
Don't start it with a broken sibling
In the words of the famous Rudyard Kipling

Woman piaba...

Well I traveled far and I traveled wide
And I don't even have myself a bride
All the great men upon this search
That confused me since my birth
I've been over land and been over sea
Trying to find the answer bout the bird and bee
But now that I am 93
I don't give a damn, you see
If the woman piaba...


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Subject: Lyr Add: MAN PIABA (Harry Belafonte/Jack Rollins)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 14 Mar 08 - 01:24 AM

Hey, I never paid attention to the lyrics before. Pretty clever song, I'd say.

I listened to the recording, and I think Mrr's transcription is darn good. It disagrees in places with the lyrics I found at lyricsplayground.com, so I thought I'd post what they have:
^^
MAN PIABA
(Harry Belafonte / Jack K. Rollins)
Harry Belafonte - 1954


When I was a lad just three-foot-three
Certain questions occurred to me,
So I asked me father quite seriously
To tell me the story 'bout the bird and bee.
He stammered and he stuttered pathetically
And this is what he said to me.

He said, "The woman piaba and the man piaba
and the Ton Ton call baka lemon grass,
The lily root, gully root, belly root uhmm,
And the famous grandy scratch scratch.

It was clear as mud but it covered the ground
And the confusion made me brain go 'round.
I went and asked a good friend of mine,
Known to the world as Albert Einstein.
He said "Son, from the beginning of time and creativity
There existed the force of relativity
Pi r square and a minus ten is a routine only when
Hey, the solar system in one light year
Make the Hayden planetarium disappear
So if Mt Everest doesn't move
I am positive that it will prove

That the woman piaba and the man piaba
And the Ton Ton call baka lemon grass,
The lily root, gully root, belly root uhmm,
And the famous grandy scratch scratch.

It was clear as mud but it covered the ground
And the confusion made me brain go 'round.
I grabbed a boat and went abroad
In Baden Baden asked Sigmund Fraud
He said "Son, from your sad face remove the grouch
Put the body up on the couch
I can see from your frustration a neurotic sublimation
Hey love and hate is psychosomatic
Your Rorschach shows that you're a peripatetic
It all started with a broken sibling
In the words of the famous Rudyard Kipling

Hey, the woman piaba and the man piaba
And the Ton Ton call baka lemon grass,
The lily root, gully root, belly root uhmm,
And the famous grandy scratch scratch.

Well I traveled far and I traveled wide
And I don't even have meself a bride
All the great men upon this earth
Have confused me since my birth
I've been over land and been over sea
Trying to find the answer 'bout the bird and bee
But now that I am ninety-three
I don't give a damn you see

If the woman piaba and the man piaba
And the Ton Ton call baka lemon grass,
The lily root, gully root, belly root uhmm,
And the famous grandy scratch scratch.

There are transcriptions of two versions at http://www.belafontetracks.ca/fan_forum_1.htm


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Man Piaba (Harry Belafonte)
From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego
Date: 14 Mar 08 - 03:59 PM

Before there was "The Great Folk Scare," there was the "Calypso Craze." Belafonte, of course, did more than anyone else to popularize the genre, but Terry Gilkyson's "Marianne," the Kingston Trio's "Banua," "Zombie Jamboree" and others followed. It seemed as if half the boys in college had bongos. The great "calypsonian" song contests in the Caribbean produced some incredible and often hilarious tongue twisters, many worth revisiting.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Man Piaba (Harry Belafonte)
From: GUEST,noone in particular
Date: 15 Jul 10 - 03:16 PM

I believe the phase should be: Your Rorsach shows that you're a peripatetic (someone who wanders around)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Man Piaba (Harry Belafonte)
From: GUEST
Date: 28 May 11 - 04:32 PM

What does piaba mean?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Man Piaba (Harry Belafonte)
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 01 Jun 11 - 06:14 PM

From Dictionary of Caribbean English Usage by Jeannette Allsopp:

piaba n (Barbados, Grenada, Guyana, Jamaica) One of two kinds of single-stemmed, erect herb that bear a resemblance to each other in their general appearance and are both used medicinally, sometimes being boiled together. See MAN-PIABA, WOMAN-PIABA

man-piaba n (Barbados, Guyana) || BALL-BUSH (Barbados, Jamaica) [Man, prob because of supposed aphrodisiac properties attributed to this 'bush' when used as an ingredient in a particular decoction + PIABA] Compare WOMAN-PIABA

[Sorry, I wasn't able to see the page where WOMAN-PIABA is defined.]


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Man Piaba (Harry Belafonte)
From: Amos
Date: 01 Jun 11 - 07:54 PM

Bravo!!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Man Piaba (Harry Belafonte)
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 23 Jun 11 - 03:05 PM

Count Lasher, THE WEED (AKA MAN PYABBA), on youtube-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtvWbc2kOr0

Lyr. Add:

One day I met an old woman selling
And I wanted something to eat
I thought she had bananas, oranges and pears
But I took back when we meet
She had a basket full of plenty to eat
And was calling like she was mad
I can't remember all that she called
But these were a few she had-

She had Man Pyabba, Woman Pyabba
Tomtom Callback and Lemon Grass-
Minny Root, Gully Root, Granny Backbone
Deadman Getup and Libanter Rope-
Coolie Bitters, Karina Bush
And the old Compellance Weed [?]-
Sweet Broom, Cow Tongue
And the Granny Cracks Backs [?] (Cracks?)
Belly Full and the Guzzu Weed.

She had Cutta, Penumba,
Fillup Tebubba, Chinee Strong Back
Rack and Terry, Genie Roots, Sisperilla
Madame Fate and the Ducky Batty
Burbine Pitweed, Duckweed, Me Sister Repeat
And the Bamber Root
Dibby Dibby Mill Weed and the Ackim Bush
And the one they call Puss in Boot.

Verse 2-
(Another verse, hard to understand the plant names. My listening filled out with the help of lyrics posted at mentomusic.com
It seems the singer ends by going home to get something to eat).


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Subject: Lyr Add: WEST INDIAN WEED WOMAN (Felix's Krazy Kat
From: GUEST,Phil d'Conch
Date: 03 Sep 18 - 05:48 PM

Mentioned in one of the linked threads:


West Indian Weed Woman

One day ah met an old woman selling
An ah wanted something to eat
I say I was going to put a bit in she way
But I tek back when I meet
I thought she had bananas, oranges, or pears
But was nothing that I need
For when I ask the old woman What she was selling
She said she was selling weed.

She had she coat tie up over she waist
And was stepping along with grace
She had on a pair of old clogs on her feet
And was wiggling down the street
Just then she start to name The different kinds of weeds
And I really was more than glad
But I can’t remember all that she call
But these were a few she had

Man Piaba, Woman Piaba
Tantan Fall-Back and Lemon Grass
Minnie Root, Gully Root Granny Back-Bone
Bitter Tally. Lime leaf, and Toro
Collie Bitters, Carilla Bush
Flat ‘o the Earth, and Iron Weed
Sweet Broom, Fowl Tongue, Wild Daisy,
Sweet Sage And even Toyo

She had Cat mint, Chinee Mint
Soldier rod, Pasture lana
And Cowfoot bush
Milk weed, brick weed, Bird vine
Ants bush
Bishop Cap and Rock balsam
Surinam Bitters, Wild green tea
Sweet finger and worm bush
Zeb Grass, Para grass
Carrion crow bush
Sweet Bitters and Tisane

She had Cassava Mumma, Coocoo Piaba
Jacob’s Ladder, and Piti Guano
Finger Bush, Job’s Tear, Piti Payi
Jumbie Basel and White Cleary,
Bile Bush, Wild cane, Duck Weed, Aniseed
Wara Bitters, and Wild Grey Root,
She even had down to a certain bush
Wha Bajans does call “Puss in Boots”

Oh when I hear how much bush she had
I left dumb till I couldn’t even talk
She started to call from Camp Street Corner,
An never stop till she reach Orange Walk
The Woman had me so surprise
That I didn’t know what to do
That a girl came and gi me a cuff in mi eye
And I did’t even know was who

Sweet Broom, Sweet Sage And Lemon Grass
I hear dem good fo makin’ tea
An wen I hear Zeb Grass and Wild Daisy
Dem good to cool the body
The woman tongue was even listed
And she was calling out all the time
She even had a lil Kamwa eye
And the other that left was blind

She had Tanka Bitters
Pomgranum bark, Conga cane
Bay leaf, Young Bizzi- Bizzi
Young grape vine, Back pain
Stinging nettle, Sofamo bush
And Broad leaf time
Myamar Seed and evergreen leaf
Bitter fence bitters jus like gall
Saskadoole quashi bitters
And Ana Ful or
Snake bitters but dat ain’t all

She had Bitter Guma, Putagee Bumbo
Conga Lana, and Twelve O’clock Broom
Sasparilla, Wild Sumatu
Soursop Leaf and Hafabit Weed
Yoruba Leaf, Sweet Pinpota Bush
White Fleary and Christmas Bush
Scotch and Sand Bitters And even Monkey Ladder
And all the rest you may need

She had Cuza Moma basel
Marie Sukuya cure and detura
Tudor bush, black sage
And Mahongany Mee
Fenelwood and Office bush
Breadnut Leaf, Jumbie bubbie
And Stinkin Toe
Old Maid bush, Cow Jumper
And Wild Mango

She had Fat Bush, Elder Bush, Black Pepper Bush
French Toya, Cure for all And Capadulla,
Tamarind Leaf, Money Bush, Soldier Pusley
Pumpkin Blossom And even Devil Dua
Neem and Congo Pump, Pingalor,
Physic Nut And Lily Root
In Fact, the only bush That she didn’t got
Was bush in the everyday suit!

[Felix's Krazy Kats (Gregorio Félix Delgado, leader, clarinet) vocals: Bill Rogers (Augustus Hinds,) Bluebird B-4938, Side B, 1934*, reverse: B.G. Bargee]

*There may be 1929 Victor release under a different title and/or band name.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Man Piaba (Harry Belafonte)
From: GUEST,Phil d'Conch
Date: 03 Sep 18 - 06:14 PM

Meant to post this back on St. John's Eve but it got lost in the shuffle. Piaba was Creole for "cleansing” or “purifying.” From the Latin, literally “to atone.” Also covered above and in other threads:

man-piaba: Christmas candlestick or lion's ear (leonotis nepetifolia.)
woman-piaba: One or another variety of bushmint. typ.: Comb bushmint (hyptis pectinata.)

Also, Discogs credits songwriter Walter E. "Jack" Rollins (1906-1973)(Peter Cottontail &c.) as Belafonte's 'writing' partner but that it not correct.

It was HB's, soon-to-be-ex, business manager Jack K. Rollins (1915-2015)(born Jacob Rabinowitz.)

Que theremin background: Read those Belafonte lyrics again and realize he is just about to hand his sanity over to C.I.A. headshrink Janet Alterman. FYI: The wife of Belafonte's new business manager Jay Richard Kennedy (1904/06-1991)(born: Samuel Richard Solomonick) also a Federal Government 'intelligence' apparatchik. Yikes!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Man Piaba (Harry Belafonte)
From: GUEST,Phil d'Conch
Date: 12 Sep 18 - 03:03 PM

Me: "*There may be 1929 Victor release under a different title and/or band name."

These are most likely 78s remastered to 10" LPs:

The Weed Song, Bill Rogers, w/Harry Whitaker Combo, Shantos From Guyana, Shanto, LP, Jamaica, trk. A1
(No release date or cat#. Whitaker Combo also performed as The Guyana All Stars. )
Reissued as:
The Weed Song, Bill Rogers, B.G Bhagee, Kross Kolor Records, KKRA027, CD, Guyana, trk. 1


Compilations of previously released (?) Parlophone 78s:

Weed Woman, Bill Rogers, w/Freddy Grant's Demerarians, Compilation, Calypsos Das Caraibas, Odeon, MODB 90, LP, 10", Brazil
Weed Woman, Bill Rogers, w/Freddy Grant's Demerarians, Caribbean Calypso, Parlophone, CPMD 13, LP, 10", UK

Track copyright on the following compilation is 1934 but no band name given:
West Indian Weed, Bill Rogers, Calypso Pioneers 1912-1937, Rounder Records, 1039, LP, 1989, trk. B4. (also on Rounder CD & cassette.)

Bunches of later compilations on one or both or the above.


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