BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?

Subject: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Pseudolus
Date: 04 Oct 05 - 02:09 PM

Strange year for hockey fans. I must admit I'm glad it's back. Of course I'm a flyer's fan and we seem to be STOCKED this year! That aside, I'm not sure everybody, even former fans, really missed it. whatdaya think?

Frank

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From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 04 Oct 05 - 02:20 PM

I never cared about it before... I'm certainly not gonna care about it now....

I am, however not looking forward to tomorrow nights gig, what with it also being the first televised game....   Sports fans in general, I could do without....

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From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 04 Oct 05 - 02:30 PM

Yeah I'm glad Hockey is back. I'm a Senators fan and the Sens are about the only team more stacked than the Flyers. That is if the Dominator has another season left in him.

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From: Pseudolus
Date: 04 Oct 05 - 02:50 PM

More stacked than the Flyers? I'll have to take a closer look. Folks around here seem to think that the addition of Forsberg puts us over the top. Could be interesting...

Frank

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From: gnu
Date: 04 Oct 05 - 02:56 PM

I refuse to watch hockey when it's 25C and sunny... ie, early fall and late spring, with the exception of the last few series before the Cup. Having said that, I will watch the Penguins to see how Sidney Crosby does.

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From: Peace
Date: 04 Oct 05 - 06:06 PM

My favourite game . . . .

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From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Oct 05 - 06:10 PM

I simply don't care, but Shane and Don and all their buddies in Blind River are ecstatic about it.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 04 Oct 05 - 06:32 PM

The Sens were very strong on offense and defense last full season, with a very young core of stars. A year and half of maturity with help a lot an Dany Heatly was a great aquisition. Hasek is about the best goalie of the last 15 years, He's won NHL MVP twice. Like I said, if he brings his "A" game the Sens will be tough to beat.

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From: Peace
Date: 04 Oct 05 - 06:32 PM

Ooops . . .

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From: number 6
Date: 04 Oct 05 - 06:55 PM

I couldn't give two hoots for hockey ..... what professional hockey is now is a fine example how a fine game has been polluted with corporate influence and players star gazed beyond the the reality of their worth.

sIx

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From: gnu
Date: 04 Oct 05 - 07:29 PM

Sad... ain't it? But... the young and up and coming... like Sidney... make me feel the magic again. To see the true talent of his like and dream again of those nights on the ice when you didn't want your mother to scream your name to "get the hell in the house NOW!!!!".

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 04 Oct 05 - 07:34 PM

There was a certain charm to scraping the snow off the rink and shovelling the white shit over the boards and shovelling some more of the vile, filthy, cold, disgusting crap and . . . screw hockey: North American football ANYday.

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From: gnu
Date: 04 Oct 05 - 07:52 PM

What is NA football? Not that Canuck "two downs and a cloud of dust"? Yuk. Give me good old Yankee football... a game of chess and pysical prowess.

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From: Peace
Date: 04 Oct 05 - 07:52 PM

LOL

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From: bobad
Date: 04 Oct 05 - 09:53 PM

I, for one, am looking forward to the new season. I am a born again fan after giving up on hockey since shortly after the first expansion from the original six. The last few years I have become a fan of the Ottawa Senators whose style of play is reminiscent of the Canada - CCCP series of the good old days. This is the way hockey used to be played and hopefully this season with the new rules in play and with some of the technical changes being made we will see a return to REAL hockey as opposed to the clutch and grab hackey we've been exposed to of late.

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From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 04 Oct 05 - 10:15 PM

Games! Bah! The only game I care anything about is Hide-the-Salami.

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From: gnu
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 05:53 AM

Pretty much all contact sports require wearing a cup.

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From: Mooh
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 10:53 AM

GO LEAFS GO!

Hockey is the best reason for owning a TV.

Peace, Mooh.

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From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 12:32 PM

Unadorned and unadulterated thuggery masquerading as sport. A sickening spectatcle.
S:0)

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From: Áine
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 12:59 PM

Happy???? Are you kidding me???? At last there's something worth reading in the local paper again -- GO STARS!!!

I was absolutely THRILLED to see the whole first page of the sports section (well, almost) devoted to the most important questions of the day -- Will this be Turco's last season? What are the rookies bringing to the game after a year off? What's Modano's story anyway? These are the things inquiring people want to know!!

'Unadorned and unadulterated thuggery masquerading as sport. A sickening spectatcle.' -- You're so right, Strollin' Johnny -- Ain't it GREAT! But at least hockey has some semblance of order to its particular brand of thuggery. ;-) Can't wait to see what the new rules bring to the game -- they're promising more speed and more goal opportunites . . . Ooooooh, I can't stand it. DROP THE BLOODY PUCK ALREADY!!!

Besides, I swore off Guinness when the strike started . . . Can't wait to have my first sip tonight, along with the traditional Opening Game Bowl of Homemade Chili. What else is there to live for?

All the best (especially to my fellow hockey fans - you know who you are!), Áine

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From: Pseudolus
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 01:16 PM

OK Jack I have an idea...a small wager...no money, just pride. I like my Flyers and you like your Senators. The bet is this, whoever's team goes furthur wins the bet. The loser has to re-open this thread sometime next Spring and enter a post singing the praises of the winner's team. Aine seems pretty proud of her Stars, she may want in also. Just for fun, and bragging rights! whatdaya think?

Go Flyers,
Frank

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From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 01:25 PM

You sad lot.
Roll on the 2006 Cricket Season. Let's have some real sport.
S:0)

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From: Áine
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 01:25 PM

I'm in, Frank! Great idea to put even more spark in the new season!

-- Áine

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From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 01:36 PM

Fuck hockey....

Because of this NHL stupidity, the gig tonight isn't even gonna START till after 11... And the bar owner thinks we're gonna happily play till 2.... after establishing the precedent of this gig being 8-12.... I'm tempted to not go at all...

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From: Beer
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 03:43 PM

Flyers and Senators? You both loose. Red Wings will beat both out.
Clinton, you may as well go to the game.
Beer

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From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 03:45 PM

Got to the game? I'd rather eat my own skite....

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From: gnu
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 04:02 PM

And you should.. and Johnny - good lord; cricket? I love cricket, but I can love hockey too... even more.

Now, my season is ruined... Don said the Senators will clean up and, well, who's to argue with The Cherry?

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Pseudolus
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 04:17 PM

OK Beer, I'll take it that you're in...

Pseudolus - Flyers
Aine - Stars
Jack the Sailor - Senators
Beer - Red Wings

Any others? Strickly braggin rights folks and a little "crow-eatin" at the end for everybody but the winner...

Frank

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From: Beer
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 05:03 PM

You bet I'm in. However now that there is more than two of you the ending has to change. In other words, the theam that is out first has to eat crow and do the posting. Or something like that. Your the Boss. I'll help wherever or whenever I can

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From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 05:13 PM

Just to show what a sport/romantic/fool I am, I'll take the Canucks and Todd (take that) Bertuzzi.

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From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 05:39 PM

Canucks are gonna be TOUGH to beat this year.
The Flames will be good as well. Whoever picks that Flames will have the best shot in this pool. They made the finals last season and have improved their roster.
Detroit will have a tough time with the new salary cap. They have to change the nature of their team.
I'm in the Pool though with an side bet of the same with Pseudolus on Sens v Flyers Its likely that one will be settled in the Eastern Conference Finals.

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From: Beer
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 05:51 PM

Where are the Penguin fans.
Hopefully they will prove entertaining.

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From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 05:59 PM

They could have the best two forwards in the game this year.

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From: Beer
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 06:47 PM

Yes, they COULD have.

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From: Peace
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 07:01 PM

Bloody Canadians. And, hey, what the hell is cricket?

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From: Beer
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 07:09 PM

Those little buggers that come out in the summer and get so loud they keep you awake at night.

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From: bobad
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 07:15 PM

And should'nt tha be maudits Canadiens Peace?

Count me in for the Sens by the way.

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From: gnu
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 08:34 PM

You talkin bout Mario and this guy?

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From: gnu
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 08:40 PM

"This guy" is worth watching hockey again... fucking magician, man. He does shit with the puck that you wish you had taped... seriously... tape the game even while you are watching it... you will play it again.

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From: Beer
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 10:33 PM

That kid and Mario are going to open a lot of eyes. I'm a Red Wing fan but I love to watch the magic of other team players.

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From: bobad
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 10:54 PM

The Sens just defeated the Maple Laffs on a shootout, the first in the NHL.

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From: Mark Cohen
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 01:12 AM

I think they should build wider rinks, like they had in the last Olympics. Man, watching those guys skate on that big ice was fantastic--poetry in motion! I'd go back to watching the NHL if they did that. It would be like watching the Canadiens in the old days.

Aloha,
Mark

(Flyers fan in '74, '75, and (sadly) '76)

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From: Pseudolus
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 09:55 AM

We've had an addition.....

Pseudolus - Flyers
Aine - Stars
Jack the Sailor - Senators
Bobad - Senators (We can double up can't we!)
Beer - Red Wings

And a slight modification due to Beer's suggestion, the first one out will have to eat crow and explain in a post why the rest of the teams still in it were better than theirs! And of course the original wager with Jack the Sailor and Pseudolus will stay the same.

Now what was up with last night, the Flyers were cruising with a 3-1 lead and it fell apart! I'm still confident, it's only one game! It's not too late to join in the fun folks, pick your team and be proud! Penguins fans? Rangers? Canadians? OK, good thing I'm typing cause I couldn't have asked that last question with a straight face!

Good Luck all,
Frank

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From: Beer
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 10:37 AM

Well lets start the ribbing.
Pseudolus, it would be to bad if the Flyers lost the top position by one game now wouldn't it??
Where the heck are the Totonto fans??
Beer

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From: Beer
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 10:39 AM

Oh! Anyone hear how the Red Wing did??????????
HE! he!

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From: Mooh
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 10:44 AM

The Leafs lost because of the one biggest mistake in the history of hockey, the shootout. It completely disregards the TEAM efforts of the previous 3 periods and OT, and reduces the "game" to 2 players per side at a time. It's unfair, anticlimatic, assistless scoring. It ignores the team sport concept that one extrememly dominant player can be handicapped by his own team, or matched by multiple players on the opposing side. I'd rather see my own beloved Leafs go down to defeat the old way than win by shootout.

Last night's game should have been a tie at the end of three periods. The only other reasonable solution is a no tie league where sudden death limitless OT decides the game.

Otherwise I'm happy hockey is back.

Peace, Mooh.

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From: Beer
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 10:53 AM

Couldn't agree with you more. I'm really disappointed with this change.

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From: Mark Cohen
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 10:55 AM

What? No more ties? Everybody's sister will be so disappointed!

Aloha,
Mark

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From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 11:46 AM

Isn't the plural of 'leaf' leaves? Made me split my sides when I saw 'Maple Leafs' all over the place in Toronto recently. What do they teach in Canadian schools? ROFL
And if you have to ask what cricket is, you probably haven't the intellect to understand it.
LOL

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 11:49 AM

Well OK then, cricket's a game where players hit a ball with a heavy bat and guess what, they don't feel it necessary to punch away at each other like big girls' blouses every thirty seconds. Its called sport. :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Mooh
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 12:17 PM

Johnny...Maple leaves is what happens at the end of the season. Mooh.

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From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 12:24 PM

ROFLMAO Mooh! :-) :-)

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From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 12:44 PM

Hey, Pseudolus ... how come I didn't get the Canucks the pool? Scared, eh?

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From: ToulouseCruise
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 12:45 PM

Okay, I will admit it... GO LEAFS!

I loved the game on last night, except for the final score. The "new" NHL will be a game of the players, not a game of coaching tactics (see: Neutral Zone Trap). Not crazy about the shootout, it almost seems anti-climatic after all of the excitement of the dying minutes, and then the OT (as seen in the Leafs-Sens game last night).

As for Sid the Kid, I have seen him play in the junior ranks over the last couple of years.. he'z got skillz. Too much hype? Maybe. Is he what the game needs now? Yep - young, photogenic, excellent with the media, mature, and skilled. The new ambassador for the game.

Oh, and I loved that every team played last night. I think they should do that every season!

Brian

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From: Pseudolus
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 12:47 PM

HA HA! After last night I SHOULD be!! ROFL!

New List -

Pseudolus - Flyers
Aine - Stars
Jack the Sailor - Senators
Bobad - Senators (We can double up can't we!)
Beer - Red Wings
TheBigPinkLad - The Canucks

Frank

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From: Pseudolus
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 12:56 PM

Uh-oh Simul-posting going on there...

New List -

Pseudolus - Flyers
Aine - Stars
Jack the Sailor - Senators
Bobad - Senators (We can double up can't we!)
Beer - Red Wings
TheBigPinkLad - The Canucks
ToulouseCruise - Leaves, uh, I mean Leafses, uh, damn, TORONTO!

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From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 01:19 PM

Re. the Leafs v Leaves thing ... it's kosher. I had my doubts but the proper plural is 'Leafs' otherwise they'd be in the fall they'd be Hogtown organic detritus ... hey ... wait a minute ... ;o)

Also, the plural of 'mouse' (as in computer waggly-thing) is correctly 'mouses'.

And yes, I did once get hit in the head by a puck ... who hasn't been?

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From: Biskit
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 01:33 PM

I went to a Boxing Match once & a Hockey game broke out,...
                  ;)

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From: gnu
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 01:51 PM

I grew up listening to announcers trying to pronounce Cournoyer before he skated past everyone and scored with the best wrist shot ever. As for slap shot, don't give me that Hull or Orr crap... LeMaire could outgun both of them put together. And Jean Belliveau could put the puck in off the face off, tell you to fuck off and still be a gentleman. And... oh, oh... I had better stop - I am getting the urge to watch hockey.

So... if I had to pick a team, I guess it would have to be Tronna.

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From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 03:35 PM

Hmmm, much to talk about.

1. Leaf fans have elevated crying in their beer to a high art. ;) This is no exception. If you take the trouble to dry your eyes and look at the standings, you will see that the Leafs have one point the Senators have two. (How many for the Flyers, Frank?) Yes! The Leafs got credit for the tie!!! I'm sure their sisters are profoundly grateful.

2. I'm enjoying this thread so I'm going to prolong it with pointless gloating. Pseudolus.. How 'bout them Flyers? :)

3. Johnny I've played Cricket, I've played hockey. As a sport compared to Hockey, Cricket is lawn bowling with a stick. Now RUGBY is a SPORT!!

4. I was a Leaf fan for 13 years, while they were owned by Harold Ballard. In the early 70's, after he gave away future Norris Trophy winner Randy Carlyle for NOTHING, to reduce the payroll. I decide that if the owner wasn't going to support the team, I wouldn't either. I switched to the team that put them out of the playoffs, The NY Islanders. The current ownership does support the team but The Sens start their team the year after I Moved to Ottawa. I've watched them grow from worst to first. I'm waiting for a cup.

5. Cournoyer was a decent straight ahead skater but Orr and Hull were better. Lemaire had a decent shot but McInnis' is better and he's a maritimer to boot. Beliveau was smooth but Mario is smoother and as classy and Gretzky, well Gretzky is Gretzky.

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From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 03:44 PM

Let's go Devils!

I'm not a big hockey fan by any means, but I do enjoy the game.   I prefer watching baseball to most other activities, but hockey certainly is a great way to pass the winter months.   Of course, I lose all interest in hockey when the temperature is nearing 80 degrees and the endless playoffs are still going on.   Still, from October to around March it is a great pastime.

Glad they are back!!

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From: Pseudolus
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 04:21 PM

Jack, yer killin me!! Leaf me alone! We're talkin like they are in a prolonged slump! It's just one game. We're picking up steam with nine players in the pool. Someone's gonna do some serious crow eatin! Hope it's not me!

Frank


Pseudolus - Flyers
Aine - Stars
Jack the Sailor - Senators
Bobad - Senators
Beer - Red Wings
TheBigPinkLad - Canucks
ToulouseCruise - Leafs
gnu - Leafs
WFDU - Ron Olesko - Devils

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 04:46 PM

"Jack, yer killin me!! Leaf me alone! We're talkin like they are in a prolonged slump! It's just one game."

No one said it was going to be easy :-D

BTW I am aware that it could be the other way around in a game or two.

BTW-2(I hope the Leaf Fans cheered up when they realized they tgot the tie.)

BTW-3(I think that GNU must be a Habs fan. You should put him down for Canadiens too)

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From: Bardford
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 04:58 PM

Okay, I'm gonna weigh in here and put my dibs in on the Flames, even though last night against the Wild they looked like the suckiest sucks who ever sucked for most of the game.

And I agree with everything said about the Leafs. They take up far too much CBC space for my liking. I think it is a centrist Canadian Bay Street plot to distract us westerners from... uh...

Also - music content - Darren McCarty of the Flames fronts a band called Grinder.

Rock on, Flames!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 07:36 PM

I listen to the Leafs v Sens on internet radio. The BareNaked Ladies doing Oh Canada was Fab!!

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From: gnu
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 08:31 PM

Les Canadiens? Nope. They are Yanks now. Leafs. Flames. Oilers. Canucks. Senators.

AND, Yvonne could skate fuckin circles around Hull, Orr AND WAYNE, all put together and his wrist shot will never be matched. Yeah, McInnis comes close to LeMaire... but, I've never seen him put a goalie on his ass with a puck to the chest from four feet inside his own blue line like Jacques did to Cheevers... and he scored.

Anyway... it's all relative. And my relativity don't start until May.

Go Patriots!!

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From: Steve Latimer
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 10:38 PM

Gnu,

"McInnis comes close to LeMaire... but, I've never seen him put a goalie on his ass with a puck to the chest from four feet inside his own blue line like Jacques did to Cheevers"

As a former goalie I have to say compare the chest pad that today's goalies wear to the ones that Gerry wore. A bazooka wouldn't put any goalie on his ass with today's equipment.

I'm looking forward to a lot of the rule changes. I hope that they continue to call all of the obstruction. By the way, this is not revolutionary, it is just calling penalties the way they used to be called. It, and the elimination of two line offsides should make for a much better game. Let the Crosby's etc. dance and work their magic. In the past they would have been nullified by a hook, a hold or interference.   

This is the Leaf's year. See you in the Spring on Bay St. (However, I've been saying that since '68).

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From: gnu
Date: 07 Oct 05 - 05:41 AM

Excellent point Steve. As for stirring the pot, I lost all credibility when I included Wayne... I have a tendency to go (way) too far sometimes. Oh well, if I offened just one Chicago or Boston fan, my efforts were worthwhile.

Keep yer heads up and yer sticks on the ice eh!

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From: Beer
Date: 07 Oct 05 - 07:51 AM

Go Wings Go
Almost blew it.

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From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 07 Oct 05 - 08:01 AM

They can change the rules till they're blue in the face, those gorillas will still ignore them and go on scrapping like big girls in a schoolyard.

Jack, can't agree with you about Hockey vs. Cricket, but you're right about Rugby - Union's the Prince of Sports, and League's the King. Now those are REAL men - no armour, crash helmets and silly sticks to hit one another with, just bone, muscle and sinew and, for big guys, amazing fitness and stamina.

S:0)

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From: Mooh
Date: 07 Oct 05 - 08:22 AM

I agree with the obstruction calls, the centre line thing, and the goalie pad reduction, but I stand by my stated opinion on OT and shoot-outs. The clutch and grab aspects of the NHL for many years slowed the game to a crawl, increased thuggery, and frustrated refs who couldn't call a fair game.

I prefer international ice sizes too, and the NHL missed its chance to institute the larger ice during the year off. In some arenas it would cost too many seats and too much engineering, or so some say. My thinking is a larger ice surface would open the game up a bit, especially with today's seemingly huge players, and reduce the anti-positional crowding along the boards.

Another thought...it's been a long time since I've seen a good clean hip check like we used to see in the lighter padding days. Is there a connection?

Peace, Mooh.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 07 Oct 05 - 06:34 PM

Mooh, no connection to equipemnt. Brian Glennie retired.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Mooh
Date: 07 Oct 05 - 08:54 PM

Steve...Oh man, those were the days...sigh. Mooh.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 07 Oct 05 - 08:56 PM

"They can change the rules till they're blue in the face"

You are under the mistaken notion that hockey has rules.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 02:04 AM

We get it Peace, you don't like Hockey. Why don't you start a thread about your favourite sport? I know the Playoffs have started because there's nothing to watch on Channel 54 except the bloody Braves...

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 07:54 PM

Gee, Jack, so sorry to have intruded on your thread. My apologies to all those for whom he speaks.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 07:54 PM

BTW, I do like hockey. Have a nice day, Jackie.

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From: GUEST,Bobert
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 08:37 PM

Bein' a CAP's fan, I am depressed that hockey is back... Another season of misery...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 08:57 PM

For you, Jack.

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From: Steve Latimer
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 11:11 PM

Well, everything was perfect tonight. Saturday Night, Hockey Night In Canada, Leafs vs. Habs, Leafs up 4-3 in the third. Then the worst happened.

Boy, if they want high scoring games with the new rules they are succeeding. But, I like what I see. The pace is much quicker.

Go Leafs Go. I'll bite my tongue about the Habs.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 09 Oct 05 - 03:10 PM

I live in Quebec Steve, so I have to bit my tounge all the time being a Red Wing fan. I use to go to the Joe Louis arena in Detroit in 63. Got some great games between Toronto and Detroit.
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 09 Oct 05 - 03:25 PM

Thanks Peace but I already knew about NHL.com.

Since you do like hockey, can we put you in the pool as a Flames supporter? They are too good not to have somebody rooting for them on the Mudcat.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST,Bardford
Date: 09 Oct 05 - 04:29 PM

Hey Jack - I already called dibs on the Flames. But I'll share - there's enough talent on the team to spread it around.

I guess what I am saying is give Peace a chance.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 09 Oct 05 - 06:05 PM

Is that all you are saying?

Sorry, I forgot. I guess I was waiting for Pseudolus to mark you down.

I guess Peace could pick the Oilers if he wanted to.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 09 Oct 05 - 06:41 PM

I live west of Edmonton by a three hour drive. Edmonton it is. (Someone has to give y'all a chuckle, and taking the Oilers to win the cup will certainly do that.) Besides, no sane person would take Calgary. I understand that they are only dressing nine players in their next game: seems all the rest have learned to dress themselves.

Laugh number #1:

GO, OILERS, GO!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 09 Oct 05 - 08:44 PM

Well, I did stay up to watch the Oilers/Canucks game. Good game. I don't like the shoot outs.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Pseudolus
Date: 10 Oct 05 - 12:26 PM

Ahhh, it's time for a new and updated list!

Pseudolus - Flyers
Aine - Stars
Jack the Sailor - Senators
Bobad - Senators
Beer - Red Wings
TheBigPinkLad - Canucks
ToulouseCruise - Leafs
gnu - Leafs
Steve Latimer - Leafs
WFDU - Ron Olesko - Devils
Bobert - Caps
Bardford - Flames
Peace - Oilers

OK, we got some longshots out there but the list grows! By the way, Am I the ONLY Flyers fan out there...hard to believe!!!! Speaking of hard to believe, the Leafs have the biggest fanbase on the Cat??

Frank

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 10 Oct 05 - 03:24 PM

When my students wear Leafs' shirts or hats, I ask them if they lost a bet. This place will become unbearable if they ever win the Cup.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Pseudolus
Date: 10 Oct 05 - 03:27 PM

Well, at least this thread! haha! Hey, I think it will be unbearable if anyone other than the Flyers win it! Cause it's a long season and I will not be able to hold back on the cheering and bragging as the season goes on.

Frank

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: saulgoldie
Date: 10 Oct 05 - 03:52 PM

Hockey-schmokey. Professional sports franchises jack up local governments for millions in tax breaks that ALL taxpayers, fans and non-fans alike must pay for, ticket prices are unaffordable anyway, athletes get astronomical salaries, owners make out like bandits. Fans and taxpayers get screwed. Do away with professional sports, says I.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: saulgoldie
Date: 10 Oct 05 - 03:53 PM

Should have been "hockey-schmockey"

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Mooh
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 08:40 AM

I love how the Leafs are toying with their opponents right now, making everyone believe they choke. Soon they will end the ruse, rise again, slay those bastard Senators and Habs, steamroll over the rest of the league, capture the Cup, and convert all those hockey hating souls to the ONE TRUE TEAM.

GO LEAFS GO!

Peace, Mooh.

(damn shoot-out)

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Pseudolus
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 09:33 AM

Great, another Leafs fan! Oh well, just that many more posts at the end of the year singin the Flyers praises!


Pseudolus - Flyers
Aine - Stars
Jack the Sailor - Senators
Bobad - Senators
Beer - Red Wings
TheBigPinkLad - Canucks
ToulouseCruise - Leafs
gnu - Leafs
Steve Latimer - Leafs
Mooh - Leafs
WFDU - Ron Olesko - Devils
Bobert - Caps
Bardford - Flames
Peace - Oilers

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 04:10 PM

At this pace the Leaf fans will be eatin their crow in February. They sure seem to be a bunch of sister kissers.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 04:11 PM

The Leafs that is, not necessarily the fans.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 04:44 PM

Mooh, You're not supposed to be letting the cat out of the bag.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 06:51 PM

In case anyone wants to know where they stand here are the current league standings. Pseudolus, ToulouseCruise, gnu, Steve Latimer, and Mooh you can save time by starting on the bottom. Of course 1-6 are actually all tied for first with 6 ponts each. Actually Emonton, Ottawa and Montreal are technically ahead because they have no losses or OT losses. Tonight Ottawa and Montreal Face off. One of them will lose ground.



current standings

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 07:22 PM

Early Brigging rights at stake. The Flyers are playing the Leafs!! One team will win. one wil be left in the cellar!!

you can listen here.

http://www.nhl.com/radio/index.html

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 07:32 PM

Here I am supposed to be all hot to trot about hockey because some incredible assholes in local government believed that the largest college football town in the United States with some of the most rabid fans and additionally located within 300 miles of almost HALF of the NFL teams could and would support an NHL team. We had failed miserably at supporting ANY pro franchise including previous minor league hockey teams and the only game in town was Clippers baseball or located inside the Horseshoe at Ohio State.

So these mamaluccas name this new and wonderful team after an obscure Indian Chief in Ohio's history, a man I doubt ever played hockey, and then come up with a hideous mascot and emblem based on the name but unrelated in any way to the history they wanted to carry forth.........go figure.

They have achieved their only notoriety as a team that caused a rules modification by killing some poor kid who had actually wanted to attend a Blue Jackets game for her birthday.

So sign me up for a Columbus Blue Jackets fan. I'm hoping to get a job licking the icing off the puck after every Icing call.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 07:49 PM

"So sign me up for a Columbus Blue Jackets fan. "

Are you gonna keep badmouthing them? That kind of spoils the fun for the rest of us.













So sign me up for a Columbus Blue Jackets fan.

Are you going to keep badmouthing them? If you do it will ruin our fun.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Pseudolus
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 08:14 PM

Jack, you're making it hard to hate ya, you keep cracking me up!!! OK OK, I looked at the bottom and there were the flyboys...we got ya right where we want ya!!!

Frank

Pseudolus - Flyers
Aine - Stars
Jack the Sailor - Senators
Bobad - Senators
Beer - Red Wings
TheBigPinkLad - Canucks
ToulouseCruise - Leafs
gnu - Leafs
Steve Latimer - Leafs
Mooh - Leafs
WFDU - Ron Olesko - Devils
Bobert - Caps
Bardford - Flames
Peace - Oilers
Spaw - Blue Jackets

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 08:54 PM

2-1 Canadian's 7:48 Second period.
Their talking Stanly cup already in Montreal. Their nuts.
Bobad/Jack Good luck tonight.
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 09:17 PM

Tonight's game is at least better than last week's crap.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 11:26 PM

Sens win! Leafs win their first. Flyers better get n their horse. I have Esche in my Fantasy league.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Mooh
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 11:29 PM

Leafs won, 4-2 over the Flyers. Hail the conquering heroes!

Peace, Mooh.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 12 Oct 05 - 02:13 AM

OK, Pseudolus, I'm with you. As I said, I was a Flyers fan in '74, '75, and '76, when it was all over after the fat lady sang. I don't know if I'm going to have time to watch any games this season, but I'll let you watch for me. I did grow up in Philly, after all. I even voted against Frank Rizzo.

Oh, and gnu, you'd better watch how you spell M. Cournoyer's first name, or you could end up sporting a puck in some anatomically inappropriate location. Yvonne is the feminine form of Yvon.

Aloha,
Mark

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 12 Oct 05 - 02:19 PM

Get the puck THERE and gnu could be gnuette.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST,Pseudolus at work
Date: 12 Oct 05 - 02:54 PM

Welcome aboard Mark! There's always plenty of room on the bandwagon when yer 1 and 2! It wasn't bad enough that the Flyers lost, did Lindross have to score a goal?!?!?!?!?   ugh!#$@#@! By the way, listing flyers fans first wasn't workin out...so I re-ordered the list. Not that I'm superstitious or anything like that!

Frank


ToulouseCruise - Leafs
gnu - Leafs
Steve Latimer - Leafs
Mooh - Leafs
Aine - Stars
Jack the Sailor - Senators
Bobad - Senators
Beer - Red Wings
TheBigPinkLad - Canucks
WFDU - Ron Olesko - Devils
Bobert - Caps
Bardford - Flames
Peace - Oilers
Spaw - Blue Jackets
Pseudolus - Flyers
Mark Cohen - Flyers

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 12 Oct 05 - 03:38 PM

Interesting that the Leafs went with the rookie in Goal last night. He looked good. I don't think that the Eagle has looked like himself yet, although I didn't see the first game against the Sens.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: gnu
Date: 12 Oct 05 - 04:41 PM

Oh my!! Et, Jimmy Suis un demi Acadien. I must have been thinking about THE Yvonne.... third year nursing student and I was a frosh. I found out that I didn't really know anything about sex when she took me under her leg and nurtured my libido.

Back to hockey... that fucking shitout has to go.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 12 Oct 05 - 04:56 PM

No Gnu, The Leafs need better goalies and scorers. As a Sens fan, I'll take me chances on Alfie, Dany and the Dominator.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: gnu
Date: 12 Oct 05 - 07:07 PM

I heard that Tronna's best player got a puck in the face and his return is indefinite. "Indefinite"… sure sounds to me like he's pucked. Then I was told it's that big Swedish guy, from Sweden. The Captain, of the Maple Leafs, is from Sweden... one of them guys what made Wayne cry on the TV. I decided to investigate.

THIRTY teams? 30!!! No wonder the playoffs don't start until almost May. Anyway, I checked the roster on all the Canadian teams... Tronna, Ottawa, Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver and San Hoser.
I figger since Montreal is Yankee owned, and since they got less than half as many Canadians on their team as San Hoser, I kin substitute.

So.... I thought when I said Tronna, I was pickin a Canadian team. Come ta find out, the most Canadian team is Les Flames. Now. I dunno about the name. I mean, is that ta do with yer oil and gas wells flamin er is it fer wearin panty hose fer ta keep from gettin hamstring pulls... er other pulls?

Anyway, I will stick Tronna up if them's the rules, but, if I can change, I'd like ta pick the Flamin Hosers. No, not Vancouver... they don't list their players' countries of originality, on accounta they are so aggressive with they're political errectness. Aparrently, same with the Penguins. Of course, they got Sydney, so I will be cheering for them as well... to a point.

In the end... I just wanna see some good hockey. And I have already sent my letter in... them shitouts gotta go man, eh, know what I'm sayin, right?

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 12 Oct 05 - 10:18 PM

Its pseudo's pool Gnu, but far as I'm concerned you can swap teams as many times as you like. Pick the Flames & the Pens if you want too. At least the Pens are going to be fun to watch. Better than those lumbering Leafs anyway.

BTW the Habs may be a bunch of feriners but theywon again tonight.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: gnu
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 07:35 AM

Did you know they got a team named the Kings? The Kings? I suppose that's no worse than the Senators. And what the hell is a Wild? And, seriously, someone actually named one team the Ducks. Daffy innit? Since the regular season only ends April 18, maybe they could shorten things up with less teams. Like, they could combine the Kings and the Penguins and call them the Emperors. Of course, you probably already know why I said all this... the Wild Ducks, of course.

Hey Pseudolus... how come you don't got Don Cherry down fer the Senators?

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST,Pseudolus at Work
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 09:50 AM

Sure, you can change yer mind, the Flames it is! So far it's Bardford's bandwagon but I'm sure you'll be allowed on. As far as Don Cherry, he hasn't weighed in with an opinion. Someone else spoke for him but I'll wait for him to officially get in the pool...


ToulouseCruise - Leafs
Steve Latimer - Leafs
Mooh - Leafs
Aine - Stars
Jack the Sailor - Senators
Bobad - Senators
Beer - Red Wings
TheBigPinkLad - Canucks
WFDU - Ron Olesko - Devils
Bobert - Caps
Bardford - Flames
gnu - Flames
Peace - Oilers
Spaw - Blue Jackets
Pseudolus - Flyers
Mark Cohen - Flyers

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 09:57 AM

Oilers ain't doin' too bad.

GO, OILERS!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Chili
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 01:09 PM

I like the flow of the game now, with the crackdown on obstruction. Most of the new rules get a thumbs up except for the shootout.

I don't mind the shootout itself but it isn't the way to award points in the standings in my opinion. I have no issue with ties, the quality of play dictates the entertainment value more than the scoreboard.

I wasn't sure I would even follow the game again after the long layoff and the last few seasons of defensive play but I have the bug again.

I was a Pens fan but not sure anymore. I'm probably best described as just a hockey fan. :)

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 02:12 PM

Don Cherry: Ranks up there even if only because of his sport jackets. The only other guy who has his elan is William Shatner.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 02:14 PM

Name the long-haired man and win.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: gnu
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 02:19 PM

I was just talkin at Don and he said, "Like I was sayin, The Sens got big guys. And they can skate. Big guys... skate. Add that up. There's only like a half a dozen guys under 200 pounds. And they can skate faster than the big guys. Big guys... skate... Stanley cup. With or without visors. And I did not say never wear a visor. That's not what I said. What Ron said I said was not what I said."

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: gnu
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 02:21 PM

Like he said...

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: gnu
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 02:22 PM

Tiny Tim.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 02:25 PM

THAT was fast.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 02:36 PM

Don is gonna lose his fan base if he keeps it up with the big words.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: gnu
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 02:39 PM

Well... what did I win... and, by the way, can anyone name the two gentlemen with Mr. Tim?

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 02:40 PM

You win a life-time supply of tulips through which to tiptoe.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: gnu
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 02:41 PM

Oh yeah... ya gotta spell their names correctly to win.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: gnu
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 03:06 PM

Oh yeah... ya gotta get the first names too. Can ya remember which was which?

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: gnu
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 03:32 PM

Okay, I'll grant ya two hints. One of them was not Pete.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: gnu
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 04:06 PM

Hmmm.... Okay, I'll GRANT ya two hints. FRANKLY, one of them was not Pete.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 04:13 PM

Is 18 Dave Keon?
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 04:22 PM

Mike Walton, Jim McKenney and Herbert Khaury.

And no, I didn't know all that, I researched it.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 04:24 PM

Whoops, that was me at 4:22.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: gnu
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 06:02 PM

Well... re-search.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: gnu
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 06:11 PM

Beer... why would Dave Keon be in a ******** ********* uniform?

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: gnu
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 06:28 PM

Okay. Another hint.... Remember how Serge Savard use to suck wind at the end of every shift like he was going to fucking die? It was one of the best parts of the game watching old numero dix-huit trying to catch his breath on the bench. GRANTED, he was a rather big lad compared to the one in the pic.

Ya know, I could be wrong about who No 18 is.... it's a black and white pic.... but, I am pretty sure I know who No 26 is. And, they both retired with the same team. Then again, I am not in any shape to discern details. So... I could be completely wrong. But... tis up to you to prove it.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 06:32 PM

Read the small print.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 06:38 PM

I just threw my friggin' neck out!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 06:39 PM

Turn yer monitor on it's side.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: gnu
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 06:59 PM

Gee... I damn near fell off my chair... not because I was sure it was Frank Mahavoich and Danny Grant, but because, like I was sayin when I said, I am not in any shape to discern details, or to turn my head sideways. Okay then... you get my tulips... collect them from Peace.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 14 Oct 05 - 12:37 AM

Hey, I just realized that if I wanted to, I could see a hockey game live. I'm now living in Santa Clara, which is next door to San Jose. And I've heard that for some inexplicable reason they have a hockey team there. Not sure it's the NHL, though...I checked the schedule and they're playing these teams with weird names like Wild and Thrashers. Now I know that there are people who thought the NHL went irretrievably downhill in 1967 when they expanded beyond the Canadiens, Maple Leafs, Bruins, Red Wings, Rangers, and Black Hawks...but I think they've gone way over the edge. (Actually I thought naming a team after a movie was way over the edge...especially in a town where Santa Claus wears shorts and sunglasses.)

Aloha,
Mark

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 14 Oct 05 - 07:26 AM

Walton and McKenney, Tiny Tim is wearing Shacks skates. (number 23 on the side). Hey, does anyone have "Clear the Track, Here Comes Shack" or Johnny Bower's "Honky The Christmas Goose"?

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 14 Oct 05 - 06:45 PM

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OILERS!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 14 Oct 05 - 07:15 PM

Funny you should say that about Shack. He brought the 'oldtimers' into Hinton a few years back and our fire department played the team. It was a fundraiser for Muscular Dystrophy--a cause supported by many FDs in North America--and everyone had a blast. Eddie and the guys and gals put on one heckuva show.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 14 Oct 05 - 07:28 PM

DOUGLAS RANKINE with THE SECRETS: Clear The Track Here Comes Shack (B McFarlane - W McCauley)
45 RPM: RCA Victor Canada International - 57-3384 - 1966

Can't find lyrics just now.

http://www.nhlalumni.com/images/slam/hockey/nhlalumni/02/0218_honky.mp3

The above link is to some of Honkey the Christmas Goose.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 14 Oct 05 - 07:42 PM

Sorry. Honky the Christmas Goose.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 14 Oct 05 - 07:51 PM

Hey who you calling a honky?

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 14 Oct 05 - 07:56 PM

LOL

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 14 Oct 05 - 07:58 PM

End of the 1st period. Flyers are leading the Penguins 2-1
Crosby got his sixth assist.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 14 Oct 05 - 08:54 PM

4-0) Leafs

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 14 Oct 05 - 09:08 PM

Who are the Leafs playing tonight Beer, the woman's national team?

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 14 Oct 05 - 09:20 PM

Must be. Couldn't beleive it myself. Now it is 6-1 in the third.
Good chance that they will lose though??

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 14 Oct 05 - 09:27 PM

One can only hope.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 14 Oct 05 - 09:48 PM

Tranna is up 9-1.
Penguins just lost in overtime 6-5

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 15 Oct 05 - 03:37 AM

Peace,

Thanks for that link. I haven't heard that in years. I'll have to send the link to my mom, she would love to hear it again. I saw Johnny Bower on T.V. recently. Boy, he is looking old. I guess he's in his eighties now, although you're never quite sure with him. What a remarkable athlete he was. (Thank goodness, because I don't think that "Honky" frightened Sinatra very much).

Leafs 9-1 over Atlanta. Sounds like the end of it was something out of the Broad Street Bullies era. Too bad, the game doesn't need that again.

Sounds like the Flyers-Pens game was really exciting.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 15 Oct 05 - 09:14 AM

Steve,   Johnny Bower was great. Turned on the t.v. this morning and here was an interview taking place with another great Jean Beleveau. Also showing age. What a great person. He was asked what was your greatest moment in hockey (10 stanly cups). His reply was being named Team Captian by his players.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Oct 05 - 10:11 AM

Terribly kind of the Blackhawks to win at our first opportunity to hear them on Chicago radio, online (last night). Been unable to follow them since, um... the Esposito years, so we have a lot of catching up to do. Nice thing is, the NHL is so motivated to recapture fans, there's tons of free multimedia stuff at various sites, to get with the program.

Or I should say, it's free THIS year....

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 15 Oct 05 - 08:22 PM

Grew up in Nova Scotia listening in the late sixties to the Red Wings on 760 WJR a.m radio Detroit. Yes, all that distance. Always seemed to fade out just about the last two minutes of the game. Moved to St. Thomas Ontario and again listened to WJR. For the past 30 years have been listening to WJR hockey from the Montreal area. Went to Newfoundland 8 years ago and low and behold I listened to the Red Wing as I drove through Gross Moore National Park.
Then a few years ago.Puff they were gone. WJR didn't carry them any more. So now with this mulimedia stuff I'm with WYSIWYG. Only hope your wrong and it remains free for some time to come.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 12:25 AM

All is well, Leafs 3, Habs 2 in Montreal. The Eagle was his old self.

Beer, as someone who grew up in Toronto I could be lynched for saying this, but Beliveau is one of my all time favourite players. He was a treat to watch on the ice and the emboddiement of how a professional athlete should comport themselves off the ice.

How about Brett Hull announcing his retirement today?

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: dianavan
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 01:10 AM

Canucks. For sure!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 08:40 AM

I'm shocked to find, this AM, that LAST NIGHT'S Blackhawks game is playable online at NHL RADIO. ANybody know how long they archive those puppies? I'm assuming other games of last night should also play. !!!!!!!!!!!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 09:26 AM

Montreal was my home town. Grew up watching the Richards, Beliveau, Plante, etc. It was a different game in the old days. Not necessarily better, but certainly different. I agree with Steve. Beliveau was a gentleman both on and off the ice.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 11:30 AM

Steve,
You are right on when you speak about Beliveau. I met the man about 20 years ago at a winter carnival that I had organized for patients at a psyc. hospital. What a gentleman with the public. As you get older I beleive that you get to enjoy the skills of the great players no matter which team they play for. I also noticed that when my team loses it doesn't hurt as much as it use to. I guess that is another sign of getting old. How can one not enjoy the skills of the gifted athlete.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Pseudolus
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 11:36 AM

New list. Added Dianavan and WYSIWYG. Looks like there's plenty of NHL interest!!

Frank


ToulouseCruise - Leafs
Steve Latimer - Leafs
Mooh - Leafs
Aine - Stars
Jack the Sailor - Senators
Bobad - Senators
Beer - Red Wings
TheBigPinkLad - Canucks
Dianavan - Canucks
WYSIWYG - Blackhawks
WFDU - Ron Olesko - Devils
Bobert - Caps
Bardford - Flames
gnu - Flames
Peace - Oilers
Spaw - Blue Jackets
Pseudolus - Flyers
Mark Cohen - Flyers

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 05:17 PM

About radio archives-- going to the NHL Radio Link shows only the "current" games, so when they upload the next day's game menu, you lose access to the older games in the archive. This happened about midafternoon today-- I used the link posted here, to see if the game was still available, hoping Hardi would be able to hear the game with me when he got home from church. The old game was gone, and the next set of games was up instead.

But on my desktop, I had bookmarked the page when I was on it, and when I went to the bookmark just now to review the game menu in hopes of finding one we'd enjoy-- it was the old games page, and the archive of the old game is still "live"!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: gnu
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 05:41 PM

Jean Belliveau.... all time best, hands down. Bobby? Wayne? Mario? Et al? Well, none will be the first. Jean was the first.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 12:48 AM

This just occurred to me. What ever became of the the Bell Making The Cut guys? I really enjoyed the show. I know the guys who were drafted were supposed to attend last years' training camps, but of course, they didn't happen. Did these guys go this year? If so, are there any happy endings? Anyone playing in the American League at least? Are they running the show again this year?

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: ToulouseCruise
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 01:27 PM

Excellent question, Steve.. I know one of the guys who didn't make the final six but was eliminated beforehand got a tryout on the Leafs this year.... dunno who, so dunno the result... Research time!

B

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: ToulouseCruise
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 01:32 PM

Here are the Making the Cut players... I do not believe any of them are on the parent teams right now...

#37 Dominic NOEL – Toronto Maple Leafs (Selected 6th)
#22 James DEMONE – Vancouver Canucks (Selected 2nd)
#16 Jordan LITTLE – Edmonton Oilers (Selected 1st)
#52 Matt HUBBAUER – Calgary Flames (Selected 4th)
#3 Kevin LAVALLEE – Montreal Canadiens (Selected 5th)
#20 Michael MOLE – Ottawa Senators (Selected 3rd)

CBC's Making the Cut

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 08:40 AM

Refresh

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 09:57 PM

Refresh

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 10:01 PM

Huh. Refreshed by a Beer.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Pseudolus
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 10:15 PM

Peace, yer crackin me up....

Hey, why do the Flyers have a week off? Must be the new rules, or is that the new math?

Oh Well,
Frank

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 10:16 PM

"Hey, why do the Flyers have a week off?"

OK, I'll bite. Why DO the Flyers have a week off?

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 10:19 PM

Correction - Refreshed by THE Beer.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 10:23 PM

True to THAT, bobad.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 10:24 PM

Who is in first place.........

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 10:28 PM

That's right.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 10:30 PM

Of course most teams have one if not, two games in hand.
Good-night
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 10:42 PM

"Who is in first place"

Sorry, buddy, but Who is on first base.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 10:46 PM

Which is the first place, no?

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 10:49 PM

That's right. So, Which is on first base. Where's Who? Well, who's who and Where's Where, but you know What I mean, Right?

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 10:13 AM

OK. So I am the big mouth who chose the Oilers. If ya saw the game last night--I watched the third period--I think the Oilers deserved the loss. They spent their time fumbling passes instead of shooting, and the Coyotes dug for the puck. Stupid penalty they took. I left before the shootout because the writing was on the wall.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Pseudolus
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 10:40 AM

STANDINGS - according to NHL.COM

Senators    5 - 0 (Jack the Sailor, Bobad)
Red wings    6 - 1 (Beer)
Canucks      5 - 1 (Dianavan, TheBigPinkLad)
Leafs       3 - 1 (ToulouseCruise, Mooh, Steve Latimer)
Flyers       3 - 2 (Mark Cohen, Pseudolus)
Stars       3 - 2 (Aine)
Oilers       3 - 3 (Peace)
Devils       3 - 3 (WFDU - Ron Olesko)
Caps         3 - 4 (Bobert)
Flames       2 - 4 (gnu, Bardford)
Black Hawks 2 - 5 (WYSIWYG)
Blue Jackets 1 - 5 (Spaw)

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 11:12 AM

I am NOT taking the Blackhawks all on my own! Hardi has to help hold that weight!

Still it's not their fault they're doing so poorly-- without our support these last 30+ year it's no wonder thay've fallen apart.

:~)

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: ToulouseCruise
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 03:24 PM

dang senators got two wins off of my Leafs too... both OT shoot-outs... grrr

ah well... I LOVE THIS GAME!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Bardford
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 06:08 PM

Okay, so the Flames are a little sucky right now. Lotsa games left.

But, the game is sure a lot more entertaining now. Elimination of the two-line offside pass is huge. The announcers can hardly keep up with the paly any more.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: gnu
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 06:19 PM

SSSSSHHHHHHHH!!!! No more talk of hockey being so much more exciting and whatever with the new rules... the playoffs don't start until end of April, so I'll just bury my head in the snow til then... I hope.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 06:36 PM

Is it just Chicago fans, where the refrain is always, "OK, we can still win this one if we ----"? Cuz that IS a mindset required of all Chicago sports' fans, players, coaches, and commentators. I originally thought it was just Bears fans ("There are 4 seconds left on the clock. If we throw a pass and then immediately run a play and get a safety AND a flag of some sort thrown-- we can still win this one!").... It seems to carry over to the other sports-- is that just a sports thing, true in every sport everywhere?

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 12:06 AM

Saw a tied hockey game between the Habs and ?. Cournoyer skated as only he could to get his stick on an iced puck. He did. Stopped the clock with three seconds left. Back to the other end. Habs won the faceoff and scored with no time left on the clock. The light beat the siren by a millisecond. What a finish. It happens. However, Edmonton couldn't have won last night if they had the whole damned horse up their arse.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 02:37 PM

Edmonton couldn't have won last night if they had the whole damned horse up their arse

Can't argue with that. Would that make them horseholes?

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: ToulouseCruise
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 03:54 PM

Cournoyer??? as in Yvon? Boy, were YOU ever watching an old hockey game!

"Oh, the good ol' hockey game, is the best game you can name..." -- Stompin' Tom Connors

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 07:05 PM

Tell me about it. Just TELL me.

However, no matter how much I moan and groan about the Oilers, they will always have a place in my heart. About seven years ago one of my students had to go in for the removal of a BIG brain tumor. The operation was slated for six weeks in the future. She loved hockey (played it, too)--as did her dad, mom and brother. I called the Oilers and they arranged for great seats for the family and my student got to attend the pre-game practice, received an autographed shirt signed by the entire team, game puck, pictures of her and various players and she came back to school having loved the whole trip. The only thing the Oilers asked was that the family get themselves there. They were treated like VIPs by the Oilers management folks and it's a memory that student still has. Sooooo, moan as I do about them

GO, OILERS, GO!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 10:41 PM

The Senators are scheduled to play in south Florida tomorrow and Saturday and on Monday they play, irony of ironies, the Hurricanes in Carolina.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 07:06 PM

Beaten by the FLAMES. The shame of it all.

GO, OILERS, GO!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 10:43 PM

Senators are still undefeated after tonight's game, they beat last year's Stanley Cup winner, Tampa Bay, 4-1.

Tomorrow nights game is cancelled due to Wilma and rescheduled for December.

Go Sens Go!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 12:20 AM

Yeah Sens!

Great story about the Oilers Peace! Almost makes me want to cheer for them!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 09:50 PM

I hope they do something real soon, because I'd like to cheer for them, too.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Pseudolus
Date: 22 Oct 05 - 11:11 PM

Flyers 5 - Leafs 2          Life is good.....


Frank

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 12:05 AM

Nashville and Ottawa are the only unbeaten teams. The Flyers are on a three game win streak. The Sens and Flyers both play four times next week.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 09:33 PM

Have to admit it. Watched my first hockey game last night. I don't know about this don't touch rule in front of the net! That's like writing a new job description for the defenceman. What's he gonna do now? Will certainly increase the goals while the stands there with his finger up his ass.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 09:42 PM

What did they do back in the old days before the cross checking and general mugging that had been taking place prior to the rule changes this year?

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 09:54 PM

I agree with you 100%. They had to do something to clean it up. But Bobad! Have you watched a game yet? It's not that I'm against it. It is how will the defenceman adjust their game to it. And don't tell me that in the old days a rover in front of the net was there for very long. It was just as rough back then as it is now. The only difference was that in the old 6 team league, the players dropped their sticks and gloves.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 10:07 PM

Well I'm not sure Beer, I think that, just as in basketball, the defender must employ a strategy of gaining positional advantage. This requires skills such as foot speed and anticipation and out-thinking your opponent, kind of like a chess match. I'd much rather watch this than the goonery which we've been exposed to since the mid sixties.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 23 Oct 05 - 10:22 PM

I haven't read the rule but what I'm told is that the the defenceman is not permitted contact with the player who parks himself in front of the net waiting for a pass. If that is the rule. Or something close to it, then I'm against this rule change. I'm still with you on the goon thing.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 09:50 AM

I don't think there is a rule change Beer. I think that they have decided to actually enforce the Cross checking and interference rules which have always existed. If you call interference (of the goalie) on the forward parked in front of the net then it kind of evens out. In youth hockey where I grew up it was like that. Please note that the rule changes are designed to make the game more exciting and that the change in the two line pass rule can make that guy parked in front of the opposing net, flatfooted, dead weight if the defenseman gets to the puck first.

I think in the long run it will make the game better. Once the coaches start building their teams around the new rules. They will really showcase the skilled goalies and the great skaters and smart players. Look for kids like Jason Spezza and Sidney Crosby to really shine.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: ToulouseCruise
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 11:44 AM

To clarify a wee bit...

The change in what is now happening in front of the net is not due to a specific rule change, but the new enforcement of the old rule of obstruction/interference. In hockey, you are allowed to physically contact the puck carrier (aka "checking), but not players without the puck. In the past few years, players in open ice were being manhandled even though they did not have the puck, to slow down their process into the offensive zone, or to tie them up completely to avoid them receiving a pass. The new enforcement eliminates this "thuggery" as some are wont to call it.

As a side note, it has definitely changed the play in front of the goalie. In the past, the team on offence would have a player or two parked in front at his own risk, as he was constantly being slashed at and cross checked by the defencemen there, or at least tied up with him. Now, it is almost a complete hands-off rule, which makes the defensemen's job description the one needing the most change in the game. You will see young, mobile defensemen (think Ed Jovanovski from Vancouver) being must more effective than the old-style guard (think Scott Stevens of the Devils in his heyday).

Me... I love it :-)

Brian

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 12:00 PM

Thanks Brian, your clairfication explains the part that fogged my glasses (You are allowed to physically contact the puck carrier, but not the player without the puck).

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 09:59 PM

Well Jack, Bobad, it had to happen Hurricanes 3-Sens. 2 But I guess you know already. They had a great run though. Hay Peace! Hang in there, the Oilers can only go up. it will happen.
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 24 Oct 05 - 10:01 PM

Sounds like an advertisement for Otis Elevator.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: ToulouseCruise
Date: 25 Oct 05 - 11:51 AM

Well, I am happy with the shootout win by the Leafs last night... nice to know they are capable of getting ONE that way....

Brian

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 25 Oct 05 - 10:23 PM

Nobody has the Penguins?!?!? That was a GREAT game on OLN tonight-- looks like several players have discovered how to strategize around the new "rules" and use them to their advantage.

I'll foster-fan them. What heart!

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 25 Oct 05 - 11:28 PM

Yep, the Leafs in a shoot out. Now they have it all figured out.

Go Leafs Go.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 02:48 PM

Sometimes you just gotta strut. I'm strutting now cos I have a feeling this streak will be over Thurday in Colorado. Or maybe not ... ;o)

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 02:52 PM

The Canucks, btw (save you rushing off up the thread to see who I took)

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST,Pseudolus at work
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 02:08 PM

Here's the list, just to remind y'all of who has who.

Go Flyers!

Frank


ToulouseCruise - Leafs
Steve Latimer - Leafs
Mooh - Leafs
Aine - Stars
Jack the Sailor - Senators
Bobad - Senators
Beer - Red Wings
TheBigPinkLad - Canucks
Dianavan - Canucks
WYSIWYG - Blackhawks
WFDU - Ron Olesko - Devils
Bobert - Caps
Bardford - Flames
gnu - Flames
Peace - Oilers
Spaw - Blue Jackets
Pseudolus - Flyers
Mark Cohen - Flyers

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 02:30 PM

Frank, Hardi and I are foster-taking the Pittsburgh Penguins, too.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: ToulouseCruise
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 02:41 PM

you never know... Pittsburg may finally get a win tonite! only team without a win so far..

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 02:43 PM

Penguins & Hawks both playing tonight? Hard to choose!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 04:15 PM

I'll put Hardi down for the Pens, no conflict of interest that way. hehehe


ToulouseCruise - Leafs
Steve Latimer - Leafs
Mooh - Leafs
Aine - Stars
Jack the Sailor - Senators
Bobad - Senators
Beer - Red Wings
TheBigPinkLad - Canucks
Dianavan - Canucks
WYSIWYG - Blackhawks
Hardi - Penguins
WFDU - Ron Olesko - Devils
Bobert - Caps
Bardford - Flames
gnu - Flames
Peace - Oilers
Spaw - Blue Jackets
Pseudolus - Flyers
Mark Cohen - Flyers

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST,Pseudolus at Work
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 04:16 PM

Oops, that last post was me...at work....

Frank

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 05:17 PM

NO!!!!!!!!!!! We are both died-in-the-wool Hawks fans, too!

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST,naf snes
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 05:39 PM

Hi i'm naf snes, and i am a sens fan..........GO OTTAWA SENATORS!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: leftydee
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 10:03 PM

Looks like Beer has a really good pick. The Wings went to 10 and 1 tonight. Red Wings 5   Blackhawks 2. Yserman got his first point of the season. Things are coming together.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 10:09 PM

Hay Lefty! Join me . I will need some Red Wing support as the seasons goes on.
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 10:36 PM

Senators defeat Montreal tonite in OT on a dazziling goal by Jason Spezza.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 11:38 PM

Red Wings found the Hawks' wide-open anal pore and rammed a good one up there.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 11:46 PM

that was one pretty goal.

That Kid can PLAY!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Pseudolus
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 11:23 AM

Forsberg got his first goal last night with less than a minute to go in regulation tying the game. No one (especially Gagne) is complaining about his play so far however. He has been an assist machine and Gagne has been reaping the benefits...twice last night.

Go Flyers....

OK, WYSIWYG and Hardi are both Blackhawks fans, but they are "foster-fanning" the Penguins until someone can step up and take the reins. Someone needs to step up. It would be a shame when one or the other team is eliminated that they would have to berate themselves for being a fan of the eliminated team. Plus there must be some rule against having two teams in the pool. Of course it is the Pens and the Hawks...maybe it's ok... :)

Frank


ToulouseCruise - Leafs
Steve Latimer - Leafs
Mooh - Leafs
Aine - Stars
Jack the Sailor - Senators
Bobad - Senators
Beer - Red Wings
TheBigPinkLad - Canucks
Dianavan - Canucks
WYSIWYG - Blackhawks
Hardi - Blackhawks
WFDU - Ron Olesko - Devils
Bobert - Caps
Bardford - Flames
gnu - Flames
Peace - Oilers
Spaw - Blue Jackets
Pseudolus - Flyers
Mark Cohen - Flyers

WYSIWYG/Hardi - Pens

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 12:44 PM

LOL, Frank, I had that same thought! "Which teams do we want to hear lose tonight, while playing fairly well and trying real hard?"

No Pens connection, except we really liked their style on the TV game and decided they had heart. ANy team that goes well with beer is a team I can support!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 01:30 PM

You mean me?? Beer.
I also agree. One team per mudcatter. As much as I like the Penguins and Ottawa Sens.
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Pseudolus
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 01:41 PM

Ya know, Chili said something about being a Pens fan...so how about it Chili...can we put you down for the Penguins?

Frank

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 02:39 PM

Oh yeah, they oughtta have somebody-- we'se jes' keepin' a eye out.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: ToulouseCruise
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 02:42 PM

Penguins go well with beer? Hmmm, I thought pretzels would be preferred... then again, I could see penguin with a nice red wine might work better...

B

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: leftydee
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 03:39 PM

Beer,
I'm with you all the way with the Wings. I've lived and breathed Red Wings hockey since I was a sprout. It really does look like they may have something this year. Can't wait to see the octopi fly!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 06:16 PM

Ouch. Still, I called it. Colorado 6 - 2 Canucks.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 10:31 PM

All my Canadian fans here in Quebec told me that the wings were going down because of the salary cap. In fact I had two fellows say that they were going to be like the team when Ned Harkness was in charge. I didn't appreciate that dig.
   Thanks for comming on board Lefty.
Sign him in PSEUDOLUS.
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: leftydee
Date: 29 Oct 05 - 01:02 PM

Beer,
With the coaching change in Detroit the Wings are re-energized. They look like the hardest working team in hockey again. Too many years of the old system made them a bit complacent, I think. The salary cap made them cull some of the big salaries ( Hull, McCarty, etc) that were not what they once were. The team is starting to look like Team Sweden, but it's OK. The new rules seem to favour that kind of hockey. I thought Shanahan was about done 2 years ago but he looks great. Well.... that's it from Hockeytown. Enjoy the weekend

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 29 Oct 05 - 03:15 PM

The Oilers are making a comeback.

GO, OILERS.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 29 Oct 05 - 10:33 PM

Whoah Leafs!! Whoah...

What is that smell?

It ain't victory that's for sure!!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 29 Oct 05 - 10:38 PM

Fall is in the air in this part of the world and the evocative and comforting smell of burning LEAFS is on the wind.

Go Sens!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 29 Oct 05 - 10:49 PM

Wooh!! Bobad. That's good writing.
Listening to Detorit. Their having a tougher time tonight. However Yzerman is having a great game.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 29 Oct 05 - 10:57 PM

Good luck with the Wings Beer. They used to be my team back in the early sixties, before I stopped following hockey for around 25 years. Back in the glory days of Gordie Howe, Ted Lindsay, Normie Ullman, Alex DelVecchio, Terri Sawchuck and all the other old time greats.

They're off to a great start this year, let's hope they keep it up.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 29 Oct 05 - 10:58 PM

Lefty.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 29 Oct 05 - 11:00 PM

Lefty,
Red Wings 4- Black Hawcks 2.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 30 Oct 05 - 09:49 PM

Thanks Bobad.
First month just about over and we have 245 threads. At this rate by the end on May it should be around 1700.
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Pseudolus
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 12:40 PM

New List....dont forget the rules, they're easy. Once you're team is eliminated you must post a message admitting the error of your ways to route for a team such as yours. Then, when there is one team left standing, another post supporting the virtues of those so intelligent as to follow a champion!

Go Flyers....


ToulouseCruise - Leafs
Steve Latimer - Leafs
Mooh - Leafs
Aine - Stars
Jack the Sailor - Senators
Bobad - Senators
Beer - Red Wings
LeftyDee - Red Wings
TheBigPinkLad - Canucks
Dianavan - Canucks
WYSIWYG - Blackhawks
Hardi - Blackhawks
WFDU - Ron Olesko - Devils
Bobert - Caps
Bardford - Flames
gnu - Flames
Peace - Oilers
Spaw - Blue Jackets
Pseudolus - Flyers
Mark Cohen - Flyers
Chili? - Pens

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: ToulouseCruise
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 03:24 PM

okay now, I dunno about the whole extolling the virtues thing.... (hmm, is that me doubting the abilities of the Toronto Maple Leafs? Yes, yes it is).


Brian

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 03:47 PM

Frank, "rules," LOL-- this IS Mudcat, you must know no one will fall for RULES!

The rules depend on one's team. In our case, for example, any Hawks' game must be watched/heard on radio with a good meal and a good beer or two handy, since the food will have to suffice as the main event! :~)

Anyway it will be nice to SEE, tonight, just what those wicked Wings have been doing to use the first two games of the series.

Go Hapless! :~)

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 05:57 PM

The Wings are looking strong.

The Sens are 8-2 if they stay at that pace I'll be happy.

I thought the bet was for bragging rights. Since it isn't we better brg while our teams are all still in it.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Cluin
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 06:00 PM

If you wanna call it Hockey...

It ain't been good in years. This year is the worst.

I'll wait for the Winter Olympics.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Cluin
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 06:48 PM

http://gorillamask.net/hockeyjules.shtml

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Cluin
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 06:51 PM

Beer League.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 07:11 PM

Cluin,
That's great stuff. Really enjoyed it.
Why not join us. It will give you something to do instead of just waiting for the Olympics.
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Cluin
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 07:15 PM

Sorry, but I'm in the box right now. I gave somebody a dirty look and got 2 minutes.

Damn these new rules!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 07:56 PM

Re: Barnaby's incident-- In case youse are wonderin', dat small distoibance was a impromptu prelude to a scheduled turd-period fisticuff.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST,Pseudolus at work
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 10:17 AM

This is just for braggin rights isn't it?

Frank

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 02:52 PM

It better be.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 09:53 PM

Senators 10 Sabres 4

Havlat 4 goals
Alfreddson 4 goals
Heatley 2 goals
Spezza 4 assists

Go Sens!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 10:02 PM

Detroit be lookin' gooooooood.

But

GO, OILERS, GO!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 10:25 PM

Wow! With Havlat bak and his line scoring and Alfredson playing on a line with Spezza and Heatly the Sens are going to score A LOT of goals this year!!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Cluin
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 12:49 AM

Why is Eddie Belfour stinking up the ice so much this year?

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 07:31 AM

Common Cluin, you must be out of the box by now?
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: ToulouseCruise
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 03:31 PM

Cluin... except for the fiasco Saturday night (8-0 loss to the Sens), Belfour is doing decent. Biggest problem is that Toronto only have two defencement to speak of (McCabe and Kaberle). The performance level of the others on their "D" drops off tremendously compared to those two... The guys are looking decent up front (Mats Sundin to come back either Saturday *likely* or Sunday), but will need some more quality in the rear guard to have any chance of making it beyond, say, one round of the playoffs... but irregardless..

GO TORONTO! WE GOTTA BE-LEAF!

Brian

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 05:07 PM

BTW, Cluin, Hardi has just entirely lost it over those videos. Thanks!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Cluin
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 05:57 PM

Hockey.

It's like the Roller Derby.

But with fighting.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: leftydee
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 10:05 PM

Hey Beer,

Bummer,man! Wings lost to the Oilies 4-3 in OT. My worst nightmare is coming true. Legace's hurt and Chris "I couldn't stop a beachball" Osgood is in the nets for the Wings again. I was soooooo happy when they got rid of him before. He makes lots of spectacular saves, just never when they mean anything. Onward and upward!

Lefty

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 10:10 PM

Don't feel too bad Beer, your second pick team (Sens) won tonite.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 10:37 PM

Oilers beat Wings!!

Senators beat the reigning cup champions. Too bad about the Leafs though.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 10:42 PM

It sure is JtS.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 11:19 PM

Nice widdo Pengies. Good widdo Pengies. Po widdo Iwanders.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 04 Nov 05 - 08:30 AM

Jacques Demers is illiterate???

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 04 Nov 05 - 12:37 PM

Had a bad feeling about this game before it started last night. I listened to the first two periods and then went to bed. Again not feeling good about how the Wings were playing. The wings didn't deserve to win and they didn't.
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: ToulouseCruise
Date: 04 Nov 05 - 04:57 PM

Here is an update on the Making the Cut players....

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 04 Nov 05 - 09:45 PM

"Jacques Demers is illiterate???"

The horrible truth about illiteracy in Canada and the US is this: The bullshit about literacy rates being 99% is just that--bullshit. The figure is arrived at by counting newspapers sold per capita. Fact is that the North American illiteracy rate is nowhere near that.

"The 2003 ALL survey measured the literacy skills of adults in seven countries, including Canada, and found that four in 10 Canadian adults lack the literacy skills that are required for most everyday reading requirements. Canada's youth aged 16-25 generally performed better than older Canadians, however, after their parents' education was taken into account, the survey showed a decline in literacy scores of youth between 1994 and 2003."

Sorry to post something so bloody shameful on the hockey site.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 04 Nov 05 - 10:11 PM

"Fact is that the North American illiteracy rate is nowhere near that."

Then there's those of us who don't proof read worth a shit . . . .

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 05 Nov 05 - 10:19 PM

HOLY SHIT Lefty........Two in a row..Were in trouble now. Any news on Legace?

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 05 Nov 05 - 10:22 PM

I want the Oilers to get one in a row, SOON.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 05 Nov 05 - 10:37 PM

Peace, they are one of the hottest teams right now.
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 05 Nov 05 - 10:43 PM

Crap. I haven't watched a game in weeks. HOW HOT?

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 05 Nov 05 - 10:58 PM

Well this is how hot.   
"The Edmonton Oilers won their fifth straight game Friday night with a 7-2 win over the St. Louis Blues. Jarret Stoll and Ryan Smyth each scored two goals to lead the way for Edmonton."

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Mooh
Date: 06 Nov 05 - 08:13 AM

Leafs handled Tampa Bay decently last night, and Sundin is back in good form. "The New NHL" is better without the red line but there are still too many stoppages due to insignificant penalties. I can't however believe that stick infractions are down as blood was drawn twice last night.

Peace, Mooh.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 06 Nov 05 - 12:32 PM

Mooh I don't follow every team. Early on The Senators were getting a lot of obstruction penalties. Hasek was bailing them out with acrobatic goaltending. Now they have embraced the new rules and are winning games with scores like 10-4, 6-0. I think by December, as teams learn not to grab and as they emphasize speed and talent, we will have very fast very exciting hockey with lots of shots and some young quick goalies becoming big stars.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 06 Nov 05 - 01:18 PM

"we will have very fast very exciting hockey with lots of shots and some young quick goalies becoming big stars."

Just like it used to be.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Mooh
Date: 06 Nov 05 - 02:31 PM

That should be true if they can keep "care and control" of their sticks.

Aside...Belfour took a stupid slashing penalty last night. When goalies resort to that it usually means the defence is asleep at the wheel.

Peace, Mooh.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 06 Nov 05 - 02:36 PM

Thank you, Beer. I actually have no television of my own. Gave it up years ago. I doubt I'll get one just to watch hockey, but maybe I can find a quiet corner of a bar and watch there the next time the Oilers are playing. I do appreciate the update. Thank you very much.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 06 Nov 05 - 02:37 PM

How do I find out the next time the Oilers are playing?

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 06 Nov 05 - 02:49 PM

Mooh,

I have to disagree with you about the defence being asleep at the wheel. I think that they are handcuffed by the rules. I don't like this one. While I think that forwards were often mugged by denfencemen in the past, they are now untouchable in front of the net. I think that the D should at least be able to try to move them out of there and to tie up their sticks. Eddie was sending a message to make the forwards think twice about trying to screen him. Nice to see Mats back.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Mooh
Date: 06 Nov 05 - 03:11 PM

Steve...Maybe, but better to get physical in the crease than some stupid slash or high stick infraction. I agree that the D should be able to get the Fs outa there, but they weren't, and that drove the G to take a penalty. It sucks. Maybe things will smooth out by mid-season, mabe not.

Fwiw...I still think there are too many striped shirts on the ice, the ice is too small, shootouts suck, and the Leafs rule. (Ain't a fantasy life grand?)

Peace, Mooh.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 06 Nov 05 - 03:33 PM

Peace, the teams' schedules are all at NHL.com. There is live radio for each game at that site also, as well as OLN TV schedules for US viewers, and links to each team's site. From the individual team site, you can usually find the local radio station that carries live audio... better sound quality than the radio feed via NHL.com (tho the NHL radio is archived about 24 hours). Thus, you can see if your team's local radio coverage streams-- mine does, and most others, I bet. In the case of Pittsburgh and other teams, there also is regional TV coverage of some games via Fox Sports, in addition to the OLN TV coverage.

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 06 Nov 05 - 03:39 PM

Mooh, you said "I still think there are too many striped shirts on the ice, the ice is too small, shootouts suck, and the Leafs rule."

AMEN to all.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 06 Nov 05 - 03:41 PM

Thank you, Susan. Appreciate the help. Just be my luck to have the Oilers take the Cup and me miss most of the games.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 06 Nov 05 - 03:43 PM

Peace, it would be CBC for TV for you? All the networks are listed on the NHL sched page-- maybe some of those others I see listed are Canadian?

Nov 19, 2005 Blackhawks @ Oilers 10:00 PM EST CBC

I'll be watching the Oilers grease the skids on the Blackhawks that night.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 06 Nov 05 - 03:44 PM

The Oilers' site is FULL of audio and video clips, Peace. Take look around in there! :~) See you at the "game"!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 06 Nov 05 - 03:51 PM

Belfour has been slashing players ankles for years, in my opinion he's a bit of a nut case, fits right in to the "Leafs Nation".

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 06 Nov 05 - 05:09 PM

Peace.. Just getting on line and I see Susan has taken good care of you.
I rarely watch a hockey game. But I do enjoy it on the radio while I do other things. I really like listening to it via the internet as I can listen to it without it fading out.
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Mooh
Date: 06 Nov 05 - 05:30 PM

bobad...Yeah, well, whatever it takes I guess. I love hockey but they're all nut cases, especially goalies, many are superstitious too. Let's all just stand in front of large hard rubber projectiles shall we, while standing on ice no less. Padding be damned, 100 miles an hour makes me wince.

But in my little boy fantasy life I'm Jacques Plante (in the Laughs...um...Leafs days) and you're Boom Boom. Hey, I called Plante first, you can be Gump. How I loved being a road hockey hero!

Peace, Mooh.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 06 Nov 05 - 05:47 PM

Mooh

In my childhood road hockey days I was Boom Boom unless I was in nets, then i was Jacques Plante.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 06 Nov 05 - 08:54 PM

Re: hockey on radio. It's amazing how differently the local play-callers call the game.

First, you REALLY need them to tell you which goalie is to their right and left as they view the game.

Second, you need to know the names of the players on your team. Never mind what position they play-- that will come-- but you can't tell WHAT the heck the caller is telling you unless you know your own guys. (We kept the team list handy the first few games-- been a LONG time out of the game for us.)

Third, the pregame show is actually really helpful to ghave an idea what some of the unfolding events will signify, especially if you are just getting into radio hockey.

Fourth, LISTEN to the crowd noises. You can hear from the crowd's tone whether the home or the visiting team is doing somehting interesting, and this helps when the caller isn't clear. This will help you sort out your team's offense from its defensive action when the caller gets tongue-tied or you don't know the games. Also listen for the hitting on the boards and the glass. You get so you can tell the diff between parts of the rink, just by the sound. Hearing the sound of players squabbling over a puck on the boards is helpful when the caller stops talking cuz there's nothing big to relay.

Sometimes the caller will stop describing action-- it's for sure that the players aren't just standing around scratching each other's nuts! Often, it's a player back by the net with the puck, trying to see how his offensive line is looking, up ice, fidgeting the puck back and forth till a likely play forms up with the line.

Our team's play caller doesn't tell us when people go on and off the ice, or who is in each offensive line, or what exactly some miscreant did that caused a penalty whistle. I hope yours does!

The first game or two or three via radio will probably seem like nonsense. I would urge you, hang in for a few more games anyway. Turn the lights low and sit back and relax-- soon you will see pictures of what is described. And it beats a lot of other ways of wasting time, too!

Scuse the typos,

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 06 Nov 05 - 09:14 PM

Are you knew to hockey Susan? I've never had the problems that you are referring to. Maybe it's the Blackhawks broadcasters. A good part of the fun in listening instead of watching is that you form a picture in your mind and make things up to your liking ( especially when your team scores).
There was some musician who once said that he didn't put his songs on video because it would take away from a persons imagination. Or something like that.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 06 Nov 05 - 09:16 PM

NO I am not new to hockey-- just to the present lineup, so I can see how someone new to radio hockey or their current team might find radio more confusing than TV.

I'm a Tony-O girl from way back.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 06 Nov 05 - 09:31 PM

In63 I was fortunate enought to see Bobby Hull at the Olympia score a few goals. He was magic to watch. Stan Mikita was something else but with a temper. Wonder what made him change his game around. A few years later he wins the Lady Bing.
Best of luck to your team
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 06 Nov 05 - 10:10 PM

Thansk Beer, and same to you and yours.

We won one tonight! Caught the last minute of overtime and Seabrook's win, on streaming radio.

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 06 Nov 05 - 10:18 PM

Thanks y'all. Special thanks to Susan. I will listen on the radio--I have no TV. Grew up listening to hockey on radio. Started with Foster Hewitt. "He shoots. He scores!"

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 06 Nov 05 - 10:26 PM

Hope it works out fer ya, Peace! Hey one of us gotta win next Sunday, eh? Best of luck.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 06 Nov 05 - 10:47 PM

To you, too.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 06 Nov 05 - 11:01 PM

The English voice of hockey in Montreal was Danny Gallivan, he of the cannonading shot and scintillating save.

The French language announcer was Rene Lecavallier.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: leftydee
Date: 06 Nov 05 - 11:04 PM

Beer,
Legace should be back next week. The Wings rehired Osgood just to piss me off.... and you know what? They succeeded!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 07 Nov 05 - 01:27 AM

Susan, sounds like your caller sux. It should be play, colour or ads. Try listening to the other team's broadcasts, see if they are any better.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 07 Nov 05 - 01:45 AM

Remember www.nhl.com/hockeyu/halloffame/kharlamov110305.html">Valeri Kharlamov?

Susan, Here is what Tony O had to say.

One Canadian player's utter belief in himself not only paved the way for his own induction into the Hockey Hall of Fame, it left him fearless in the face of the Soviets. Goalie Tony Esposito felt he had Kharlamov's number.

"He didn't have a hard enough shot to blow it by me," Esposito said. "If he can't blow it by me, I have the advantage. Alexandr Yakushev had the shot. Mikhailov made things happen and Kharlamov was the speed on the outside. But he could charge inside, too. Mikhailov set him up with great passes and Petrov was an excellent player too. I was a reflex goalie with good lateral movement and that was the best style against them. They never shot until they were within 10 feet of the goal. Kharlamov was dangerous, no doubt about it."

BTW big brother Phil had his finest moment during that series after the game in Vancouver.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 07 Nov 05 - 01:59 AM

"The English voice of hockey in Montreal was Danny Gallivan, he of the cannonading shot and scintillating save.

The French language announcer was Rene Lecavallier."

I can recall some evenings when the game was carried only in French on television and so we'd turn off the TV sound and put on the radio. Some of those times were magical to me. Got to stay up late and sleep on my grandparent's couch, struggling to see the end of the game. Don't recall ever making it to that point, but it was fun to try.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 07 Nov 05 - 02:35 AM

A little off topic, but is Maple Leaf Gardens the only Original Six Arena still standing?

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Nov 05 - 07:42 AM

I would say yes but I'm not sure about Chicago.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 07 Nov 05 - 07:43 AM

Steve

The Montreal forum is still standing but has been put to other use, some sort of amusement arcade I believe.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 07 Nov 05 - 08:28 AM

Guest (07:43 a.m. )
That was me-Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 07 Nov 05 - 08:58 AM

Chicago has moved from the wonderful old Chicago Stadium.... when I wake up I'll remember the new place, I think it's the United Center. The Hawks' website has sound clips of the old joint online, because oe of the most remarkable things about being at the Stadium was the NOISE you felt right through your wooden-slatted seat. (And because they can't put the smell online.)

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 07 Nov 05 - 09:57 AM

Susan,

But is the origianl Stadium still standing? I believe that it has been torn down, but I'm not sure.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 07 Nov 05 - 10:10 AM

All gone.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 07 Nov 05 - 05:45 PM

Lefty,
Have to agree with your earlier comment. Osgood can make terrific saves and then.. However I hope he doesn't get under my skin as much as he does to you. Their still playing great and I keep waiting for Yzerman to have a big noght. I guess he isn't having as much ice time anymore. Hay! did you know that the first Newfoundlander ever to play in the N.H.L. played in Detroit?

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: leftydee
Date: 07 Nov 05 - 08:49 PM

Who was the Newfoundlander? Yes, Stevie Y still has a few good games left, I believe. He's playing on a line with Maltby and Draper and looks pretty good too. He's always been a very unselfish player and now compliments the younger players with some great passing and critical face offs.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 07 Nov 05 - 09:05 PM

Alex Falkner (Sp. maybe it is Faulkner). Do you live far from the Joe? Maltby and Draper are tops in my books. I'll never forget the Draper incident in the boards. I have a beautiful framed picture that my son got me for Xmas of Yzerman in Salt lake City. A real great guy.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 08 Nov 05 - 01:21 PM

Actually, I don't care about braggin' rights-- I just want to see good play, from either side or, better, both!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST,leftydee
Date: 09 Nov 05 - 12:22 PM

I'm maybe 10 miles from the the Joe. I live just north of Detroit. I run into quite a few of the Wings players in the neighborhood. Shanahan and Legace come into the pub I play at regularly and I run into Stevie at movies and such all the time. They are always very gracious.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: ToulouseCruise
Date: 09 Nov 05 - 02:55 PM

Well, last night the Yo-Yo ride known as the Toronto Maple Leafs got a win... would be nice to have to good games in a row! *sigh*

Brian

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Bardford
Date: 09 Nov 05 - 05:59 PM

In the hockey meets music department - played a hotel pub gig Saturday night. TV's on - CFL football (BC/Saskatchewan) on the big screen near us; Flames/Canucks on HNIC (Hockey Night in Canada)on the small TV over there in the corner.

Pub attendees innattentive to the musical ministrations.

Question - in this environment, is it okay for me to ask the guitar player/lead singer/band leader dude (Rider's fan) to trade places so I can be closer to the hockey game? Bear in mind this is in Calgary. Nationally televised non-Leaf game, a rarity.

The Canucks must have been staying at the hotel we were playing in, as the bus unloaded them in front. Players traipsed off (sullen, deflated, dejected, morose) to a restaurant, and then coaching staff - Marc Crawford, Stan Smyl, others - came into the bar and had a few pops and enjoyed some fine folk music.

I didn't ask for autographs, nor did they.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 10:59 AM

After surveying the general quality of play this year among a number of teams I used to follow (and new teams started since then), we've decided on what we hope is a rational viewpoint about enjoying the Blackhawks games this year.

Their chances of having a "good" year (score/stat-wise) are nil! But we know they are in a rebuilding mode. This is our only source of positive regard for them, so we are grabbing it with both hands.

Therefore, what we hope to see this year from them is that their opponents have to work harder and smarter as the year unfolds, to beat them-- as we are sure they WILL beat the Hawks! As I posted before, we want to see good play-- we want to see organized position-playing and less mad, unproductive scrambling. We want to see this reflected, if not in the Hawks' OWN play, in the play of their opponents.

This year, we may not see it in the Hawk's play itself. We may not be quick enough to discern the small gains their improvement will require. But if they are improving, what we WILL see is more incisive performance from their opponents-- more exciting games, whatever the final score may be.

So our "bragging rights" will have more to do with losing like PROFESSIONALS than with winning! (Not their sportsmanship, their PLAY.)

We want to see the Hawks make the other teams EARN the wins.


And hey, where's the new fan list-- am I the only girl in this little Mudcat Hockey League?!?!?! (MHL)

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST,Pseudolus at Work
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 11:14 AM

No Susan, yer not the only woman in the MHL, ya got Aine and Dianavan as well....

ToulouseCruise - Leafs
Steve Latimer - Leafs
Mooh - Leafs
Aine - Stars
Jack the Sailor - Senators
Bobad - Senators
Beer - Red Wings
LeftyDee - Red Wings
TheBigPinkLad - Canucks
Dianavan - Canucks
WYSIWYG - Blackhawks
Hardi - Blackhawks
WFDU - Ron Olesko - Devils
Bobert - Caps
Bardford - Flames
gnu - Flames
Peace - Oilers
Spaw - Blue Jackets
Pseudolus - Flyers
Mark Cohen - Flyers
Chili? - Pens

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 11:17 AM

Then I wish they'd post more often!

:~)

Can we have the list sometimes by city or team?

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 11:21 AM

PS, Frank, I'm glad "MHL" stuck. I keep trying to tell Hardi about these discussions since he's too busy to look in.

Here's a question... what beer is everyone drinking whike they watch/hear the games? We've just polished off the O'Doul's (NA) and some leftover Getaway beer-- Warthog, Troegerator, Black & Tan, Sam Adams.... we're down to the Pabst NA but it will do in a pinch!

We find we're eating a lot more barbecue and pizza in front of the TV now as well..... for you radio listeners, how are you set up (where do you listen, etc.)?

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 12:39 PM

Every time I see this thread I think it says "Hockney's back", Hockney being the character played by Kevin Pollak in "The Usual Suspects". Then I wonder how he came back since everybody except Verbal Kint/Kaiser Sozé was killed at the end of the movie. Then I realize that it's about "hockey", not "Hockney" and wonder why anyone cares.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: ToulouseCruise
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 01:53 PM

Bardford -- if the other fella in your band is okay with the positioning move, why not?

My duo often finds itself competing with the screen(s) when a hockey game is on. Mind you, it doesn't bother me a helluvalot since I get to catch glimpses of my woeful Maple Leafs on occasion. A lot of it is how the bar is seen by the patrons -- is it a pub? a place to go for music? a spot to watch sports? a starting off point for another place (usually larger with pricier beverages)? Sometimes the bar is willing to turn off the TV's, sometimes not, so we go with what we can....

Brian

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 10:10 PM

Just watched the Ottawa - Boston game. Ottawa was not on their game tonight, played rather raggedly and not their usual crisp passing game but yet defeated Boston 5 - 2. This team is scary good in the retailored game which is ideally suited to their strengths, they are making it look too easy.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 10:22 PM

Crosby shoots and scores. Super. Great game.

Now I'm a little slow and realize it, but I was just checking the Detroit schedual and I see that the wings don't play Montreal, Toronto, Ottawa and probably other teams this season. Excuse me, but that's the shits. Not play Toronto, only 2 hours away. Well this really pisses me off. Original 6 don't have any rights. I'm about ready to pack it in. I was looking forward to Detroit coming to Montreal for a game. I guess it is East plays East and West plays West. I don't like it...........Period

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 10:26 PM

Who won Beer ?

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 10:30 PM

Lovely Penguins win. First truly breathless excitement since resuming fandom this season. Just lovely! Wonderful, too, to see great Canadien play.

Why do they call them H--'s? What's the H for on their emblem? CRS!

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 10:41 PM

Susan

Among the local Anglo population the "CH" is jokingly referred to as "Center Hice" which is having fun with the French Canadian accent.

It really stands for Canadiens Hockey.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 10:45 PM

Naw, it's cuz they the HABS, "Les Habitants" as I learned from Googling, after the name given to or taken by the first settlers of the area... I guess it roughly equates to "The People" as so many human tribes call themselves.

But when I just stopped by at the Habs' site-- they mistakenly had themselves down as the game winner for tonight, hahahahahaaaaaaah!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 10:51 PM

I agree Susan it was a great game. Enjoyed hearing the Canadians loose. Don't get me wrong the canadians have a great team and their record is showing it. However, when your a Detroit fan you don't get much respect in Quebec.
Bobad!
Ottawa is having a great start as well. Wouldn't you like to see Detroit come in and have a go??   First place teams play one another. But no it won't happen.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 11:07 PM

susan

From wikipedia "Logo design: a C with an H in the centre (for Club de Hockey Canadien)"

Habs is a contraction of habitants which is really a synonym for Canadiens - this is how Quebecers referred to themselves before the movement for separation took hold in Quebec.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 11:24 PM

Yeah Beer

It seems that the schedule was drawn up to try and get local rivalries established to increase fan interest. Unfortunately this will preclude some match-ups that fans would like to see.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST,Dáithí Ó Geanainn
Date: 11 Nov 05 - 04:34 AM

oops sorry , wrong thread!
I thought it was about Irish politics.
Good old CJ..can't keep a good man down!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Pseudolus
Date: 11 Nov 05 - 09:55 AM

How about them Flyers?!?!?!?! After a 1-2 start they have gone 9-1-1. They are on a 5 game (8 home game) streak right now. Forsberg has been amazing, he knows where Gagne is every minute of the game it seems. Forsberg....Gagne....SCORE!!!!   Pretty familiar phrase around here!!

Frank

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Nov 05 - 10:00 AM

Thanks, bobad!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 11 Nov 05 - 09:56 PM

3-1 Detroit.
Legacy is back.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: leftydee
Date: 11 Nov 05 - 10:06 PM

Hey Beer,

Wings 3 Wild 1. Legace is back and looking good. That's 9 straight for him. The Wings defense was monsterous tonight, only gave up 17 shots. Yserman is getting in better shape every game and it shows. I agree with you about the scheduling. Not only do the Wings not get much play with original 6 teams , but being a Western Conference team that is in the Eastern time zone makes their travel schedule the toughest in the NHL. The game tonight was not as close as the score. Minnesota got a freak goal in the 3rd, and Manny Fernandez stood on his head all night. THe Wings smothered them with tight checking. It was cool!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 11 Nov 05 - 10:26 PM

I listened to the whole game Lefty and your right the Wings played great.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: dianavan
Date: 11 Nov 05 - 10:56 PM

I haven't posted much cuz I don't have much to say about the Canucks except that they are a mature bunch of guys who are patient and just waiting for Cloutier to get back in the game. They are not at their best but they are not down. They have great potential and when the youngsters get all pooped out, you'll see the Canucks power through to the top. They're in for the long haul.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 11 Nov 05 - 11:01 PM

I don't know, dianavan, they've got some karma to work out on account of that Bertuzzi thing, a year in purgatory may help.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 07:34 AM

Hey, Peace, our teams are up tonight, 7PM eastern I believe. Let's listen to the game! Best of luck-- just hoping for good play, either side... or both!

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 10:17 AM

Leafs 5, Habs 4 in OT. I was at my son's game (don't ask) so I didn't see it, heard that Eddie was awesome again.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 12:31 PM

Yeah Steve, the Toronto-centric announcers were falling over their hyperboles praising the great Eddie. To my mind someone who allows 8 goals in his last 2 games is a little less stellar than he was being built up to be.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: ToulouseCruise
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 04:41 PM

I saw the game last night on the tube. The Canadiens (please note the spelling with the E) definitely kicked the butt out of the Leafs in the first period. Belfour DID play a great game (won the 1st star of the game award), but got really really lucky three times: he came out to play the puck or to challenge the shooter, and left the net completely open for a shot. Somehow, none of the Canadien players managed to pot the puck in those situations. He would have went from hero to zero mighty quickly!

Okay, Joke of the Day...

Didja hear? The Montreal coaches will only be dressing six players for their next game!!

    (the rest of the team have learned to dress themselves....)


GO LEAFS!!

Brian

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 09:34 PM

So it turns out the reason our Chicago radio guy wasn't telling us about line changes was that until the last few games, we didn't actually HAVE discernible lines. :~) Poor guy wouldda been calling personnel changes every 20 seconds while the Hawks played with their chemistry set. :~)

NOW we have a couple of lines and we know which one works offensively and which one should do well but doesn't and thus becomes the PKers.

And we won 3-1 tonight, amazing-- it took Mr. Magoo officiating, though, for it to happen! (I'm making him our personal mascot.)

I guess the Hawks are on some kind of roll-- 4-2 the last 6 games??? I dunno, we can usually only get them via radio and we are enjoying the Pens on TV so much we don't always tune in on the radio. Also I just discovered today that the NHL site doesn't list all the radio-only games-- just the TV-somewhere games, so we missed a lot by not double checking the Hawks' site for scheduling. Oh well-- the radio games are archived till the next afternoon, so we can still get Pens eye candy and Hawks ear candy!

~Susan

PS, the REAL good news isn't the Hawks' win... it's that NA beer is only 58 calories a can AND it's GOOD for me!!!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 09:42 PM

Yeah, Susan.

GO, OILERS, GO!

Susan messaged me, but she DID NOT GLOAT. Gracious she was and is.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 09:50 PM

Can't afford to gloat when you a Hawks' fan!!

Go OILERS.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 09:51 PM

LOL

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 09:54 PM

Chi fans DASN'T git their hopes up. Not unless they putting Viagra in they beer, and the players too. GO OILERS is how I gotta go or I'll jinx the Hawks for sure!

It was a good game and a nice visit with Peace while it ran, too.

Back to the beer!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: dianavan
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 11:00 PM

Yea - Can I change my mind?

Bobad you are right about the Bertuzzi thing. As if that wasn't bad enough, did you hear him say, "It is what it is." Three times! Takes a brain, eh?

Besides that, I haven't figured out this new 'who gets to play who' Just as I was beginning to understand it, they changed the rules again. So why do we play the teams we do?

I want to change teams but I suppose its too late so I'll just pretend that Bertuzzi isn't on the team. Pretty hard on the team, though, to hear the crowd booing because of one guy. Must effect their game at least a little.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 11:13 PM

What the hell you want to change for??????
Bertuzzi has 2 goals already and he is playing a very controlled game. in fact, if he keeps this play up he will get a hat trick and be first star.
So no you can't.
Beer (Red Wing)
Carter just scored. 3-1 Vancover
4:45 of the second period.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: dianavan
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 02:39 AM

OK OK OKkkkk

Go Vancouver!

Canucks rule.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 08:01 AM

I can't beleive it. The bugger did get the hat trick and whipped our (lefty) wings.
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Nov 05 - 10:35 PM

Did anyone else see Ovechkin's amazing ice dance? Hardi said it was like a Rapture moment! :~)

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: ToulouseCruise
Date: 16 Nov 05 - 02:51 PM

with this "new" NHL, these young playmakers are pretty freakin' amazing. Ovechkin (now 3-for-3 in shootouts), Crosby, Stahl... these ain't names that are only going to be around for a year or so! the guard is changing folks, and it is a leaner and faster time for hockey. Like everyone, I hate to see the marquee players leave (yes, even Brett Hull), but the future is looking nice and bright.

Brian

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 16 Nov 05 - 06:15 PM

Penguins vs. Flyers tonight, OLN, 7 PM.

A tip of the mug to you Philly fans.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Pseudolus
Date: 17 Nov 05 - 08:46 AM

Well that was my first look at the Pens Crosby. He looks like the real deal! Sure did in the Flyboys last night!

Frank

P.S. another overtime game, I think the Flyers should save themselves the wear and tear and just say, "Hey, let's meet back here in a coupla hours and just play an OT period!"

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 17 Nov 05 - 09:33 AM

It was pretty amazing hockey, Frank, all the way around. I LOVED the touch on the puck the Flyers have-- the accuraacy of passing and the way, when a pass arrives, it seems to come off the stick so sweetly. I loved the strategies of the #1 line and the wonderful adjustments to new defense rules--

I was watching hockey when the Flyers franchise was born. I always appreciated the physicality of their play. I'm glad to see they still have it-- plus, a lot more skill than I recall from those days.

But wow, those Pens! The whole game was exciting-- Lemieux should be so proud, how they did with the adversities of the evening.

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: leftydee
Date: 17 Nov 05 - 10:04 AM

The Wings didn't look so hot last night, Beer. Even McCarty got a wrap-around goal on Manny. They looked good for about 10 minutes and then got beat to the puck the rest of the game. Oh well.... onward and upward!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 17 Nov 05 - 10:31 AM

For US Teams--

Don't forget to check Fox Sports' regional TV coverage. We didn't have FSN programmed on our TV so it took awhile to realize we could watch most of the Pens' games. We liked them before we discovered that-- it's a happy coinkydink for us. Check and see who your regional FSN channel covers-- you might be missing some good games.

Between OLN, FSN, and streaming radio, there's almost a game every night, somewhere, that can be enjoyed.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Nov 05 - 09:33 AM

The Wings, courtesy of Chris Osgood, stunk the joint up last night. It was pathetic. Osgood went into the 3rd period up 3 to 1, then gave up 4 straight. Last minute heroics by Shanahan and Yserman tied it up only to have Osgood whiff at the first shot in OT. Wings lose 6-5. OCSABB

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 18 Nov 05 - 10:21 AM

What are we going to do about Osgood? That was an unforgivable loss.
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Chip2447
Date: 18 Nov 05 - 04:09 PM

not if you are a Blues Fan....who are currently 3-18 with a whopping 9 points scored.

it is slightly better than televised golf, and is quite handily a better show than Nascar.

Chip2447

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 Nov 05 - 09:38 AM

I'm starting to really like Alberta. The folks in Edmonton were quite nice to our Blackhawks, cheering our top line as they left the ice, when they had played well. And Calgary proved an excellent host city as well, last night:

Blackhawks score four straight goals to end Flames' streak

CALGARY, Alberta (Ticker) -- The Chicago Blackhawks dodged
several bullets in the first period and rode out of the
Pengrowth Saddledome with an impressive victory.

Mark Bell and Mark Cullen each scored twice as the Blackhawks
netted four unanswered goals to begin their five-game road trip
with a 5-2 triumph over the Calgary Flames, who had their
eight-game winning streak snapped.

With wins in three of their previous four games, the Blackhawks
began their trek in unimpressive fashion, taking eight penalties
in the first period and ending the session with a 2-1 deficit.

But Bell cashed in on Chicago's lone power-play opportunity of
the game at 8:39 of the second and Matthew Barnaby tallied 84
seconds later to put the Blackhawks ahead, 3-2. Bell capped his
second straight two-goal performance with 72 seconds remaining
in the period and Cullen completed the first of his career late
in the third to seal the win.

Kyle Calder and rookies Matt Ellison and Rene Bourque each
collected two assists while Nikolai Khabibulin made 30 saves for
Chicago, which improved to 3-1-0 in its last four road games.

(from the Hawks' site)

And it's back to Edmonton again tonight, with a 10PM Eastern time start. Quite handy for us, timewise, as tonight we have our weekly Saturday night service, which gets us home about 9PM. Hope to "see" you at the game, Peace! :~)

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 19 Nov 05 - 10:15 PM

Hay Lefty! I think were in a slide............But not for long.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 19 Nov 05 - 10:18 PM

Hey Beer

Ya can always jump ship you know...Ottawa doesn't look too bad.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 19 Nov 05 - 10:23 PM

Bobad, you got balls. Great dig, but when your talking to a fan who lived through that Ass of a Ned Harkness and yet never jumped ship you are talking to a true fan.
Ottawa is still in there and should be until we meet.........

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 19 Nov 05 - 10:42 PM

Hay Lefty!!!   Get out of bed. I want to share a little story about the first time I saw the Wings. The rest of you can tune in as well. I don't mind. I'm having a few Canadian Beer so my spelling may not be the greatest..
Left Nova Scotia in 1963 for the land of what was called "The milk and honey". Ontario.. Took me two days using my thumb. Got to St. Thomas Ont. and said to my sister at the door "Surprise". Well after a month looking for work I was getting a little concerned. But hell, who would hire a drifter at 18.
Started work for a garbage company at a dollar and hour and all I could eat. When I look back after spending 35 years in hospital adminstration they were (truth) the best years of my life.
Back to the story. Lefty.!!!! are you there??
One day, one of my co-workers asked if I was comming to the hockey game. Detroit was playing against Stan Mikita, Bobby Hull and the rest of thos f Hawks.
To make a long story short I climbed aboard a buss that was full of friends and where the suitecases are placed it was full from one end to the other with beer. (cases of 24's) "DOW"
I'm going to bed, will relate the rest some other night....................

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 19 Nov 05 - 11:38 PM

Thanks, Susan. I didn't know there was a game tonight. It tends to pass me by because I seldom listen to radio and I have no TV. I have got to find a way to stay tuned.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 20 Nov 05 - 10:23 AM

Peace, it took me awhile to develop the habit that there may be a game on that would be more fun than Mudcat BS threads. Just remember, in the BS threads you don't get to hear the hitting, nor does anyone go to the penalty box. :~) I'm actually thinking that my browser's start page ought to be the Hawks' game schedule.

Check your PMs for a set of links.

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: ToulouseCruise
Date: 20 Nov 05 - 10:56 AM

Ahhh... a happy Sunday... why? Let me count the ways...

Toronto won! 5-1 over Atlanta, and did it without scoring power play goals.. shows they can actually play with full lines.

Montreal lost! One less Monday at work that I will need to listen to a co-worker extol the glories of Les Canadiens... schweet!

Both St Louis and Chicago won! Okay, they each need one once in a while.

Now, if Ottawa would have lost too (to allow the Leafs to close the gap), I dunno if I could have handled it (from a hockey fan's point of view).

Brian.

PS... Oh, it's also a good Sunday cuz my girlfriend made me a great breakfast this morning, heheh.... it ain't ONLY about hockey, you know!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 20 Nov 05 - 11:22 AM

PS-- ssssh! about the Hawks' game-- we only caught the first period and we'll get the rest this afternoon!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 20 Nov 05 - 03:34 PM

Aw crap-- the archive was taken down early today because it's a weekend and there were new games for the afternoon, to put up.

I know we won, but what was the game LIKE? ALl they show are highlights, and to me the fun is often not in the goals!

And I was gonna run the Philly-Pittsburgh rematch too, today--DRAT!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Nov 05 - 11:01 PM

Hey Beer

I think we need to hang tough and have a little faith. The Osgood factor is troubling but some of the new kids are playing well and Datsyuk and Zetterberg are about ready to really produce.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 21 Nov 05 - 06:51 PM

Go Wings Go

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 21 Nov 05 - 09:02 PM

I'm jumping to conclusion here but I think the game is going to be cancelld. Jiri Fischer went down around 7:20 into the first period and taken to hospital..

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: leftydee
Date: 21 Nov 05 - 09:06 PM

It was scarey Beer. Fish had a seizure they're saying now but watching them pound on that kid's chest was sobering. They just annouced the cancellation. Wow.....

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 21 Nov 05 - 09:42 PM

Thanks Lefty. Guess I'll catch it on late sports.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 21 Nov 05 - 09:50 PM

NHL Radio is still running live, but when they quit bloviating you'll be able to hear or re-hear the game coverage as events unfolded. The archive is usually up till afternoon of the next day. But to land on the page where it sits, which is not marked as an archive, you have to bookmark it on the day of the game you want to re-hear. (Like now, in other words.) The URL will be the same as it always is, but the page will show "Monday's Games" at the top. Go figure.

There was some late news on the Red Wings' site (click there from the NHL site). It was on the thin side, tho positive.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 21 Nov 05 - 09:53 PM

9:20 PM EST, 11/21/2005
Fischer taken to hospital after having seizure on Red Wings bench

DETROIT (AP) -- Red Wings defenseman Jiri Fischer had a seizure on the Detroit bench late in the first period of Monday night's game against the Nashville Predators and was listed in stable condition at a hospital.

Fischer was given CPR at the bench and a defibrillator was used before the 25-year-old native of the Czech Republic was removed on a stretcher. The game was called off with no makeup date immediately announced.

Team spokesman John Hahn said Fischer was taken to Detroit Receiving Hospital and was stable, breathing on his own and responsive.

"It looks like he's going to be OK," Hahn said.

Play was stopped with 7:30 left in the period after the Red Wings alerted officials to a problem. Medical personnel worked on the 25-year-old Fischer at the door to the bench for several minutes before he was wheeled back toward the Red Wings dressing room.

The decision was made to resurface the ice then, and the remaining time was to be added to the second period. But the game was postponed instead.

Red Wings captain Steve Yzerman and forward Brendan Shanahan helped escort Fischer's fiancee across the ice to the bench area.

Fischer was diagnosed with a heart abnormality in September 2002, causing him to miss two days of practice. The problem was found on an electrocardiogram as part of a routine battery of tests during the Red Wings' preseason physicals. When the result was abnormal, Fischer was given a stress test that he passed.

"There is a little abnormality, but nothing that will stop me from playing," Fischer said at the time. "It's nothing that will bother me emotionally."

He said that his heart essentially is a little thicker than normal.

"I wasn't scared about the abnormality," Fischer said. "But I was scared
about not playing hockey again. That was a shock for me."

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 21 Nov 05 - 10:23 PM

Thanks Bobad
Ad.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: leftydee
Date: 22 Nov 05 - 12:11 AM

I heard on the late news that Juri was awake and talking

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: ToulouseCruise
Date: 22 Nov 05 - 10:06 AM

I think it was a mighty fine decision to postpone the game. It shows folks are human, and that it isn't all about big business and such. I am sure that a number of fans in the crowd would be disappointed (for example, those travelling a far distance to the arena), but there is no way either team would have been able to play to their full abilities.

B.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: leftydee
Date: 22 Nov 05 - 11:29 PM

Hey Beer,

Did you have that surgery today? I hope all is well. Lefty

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 23 Nov 05 - 08:34 AM

Next Tuesday..

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 23 Nov 05 - 11:09 PM

Just back from my Wednesday evening at the local Legion playing darts and checked on the Wings. Took a good one tonight.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST,Texas Guest
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 12:10 AM

Beer has it right; and, please know that down here in good old HOCKEYTOWN SOUTH we know that there are only two words that anyone needs to know about the game of hockey - RED WINGS!!!!!
Go git 'em Shanny, Chris, Pavel, Henrik, Stevie, Lang, Nicklas and
the rest of the RED BRIGADE - YOU ARE LOVED IN TEXAS - GO RED WINGS!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 05:11 PM

Hay Texas!! Join up. We can always use some strong Wing Support. Right Lefty??

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: leftydee
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 11:53 PM

That's right, Beer!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 12:09 AM

RED WINGS

I don't get it.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: ToulouseCruise
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 10:49 AM

actually (going back to what Gnu had written), not many of the nicknames make much sense...

-- Do you feel intimidated by a bunch of foliage, even if they are from the mighty Maple?

-- "Attack of the Killer Penguins"? Nope, I don't think so.

-- Really, the Senators? never really been known to do much by way of government...

-- The Anaheim Mighty Ducks. 'Nuff said.


Now, on another note, there are a few which are a little more interesting...

-- Yes, it is tough to outrun an Avalanche, though they are a little unpredictable ("shhhh....")

-- If they do not win another cup, does that mean that Lightning truly does not strike twice?

Any other offerings?


Brian (who still cheers for the Toronto Make-Believes)

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 10:55 AM

who would have thought that a thread about a game played by girls would reach 400 posts?

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: ToulouseCruise
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 11:18 AM

played by girls? and this from a fella with "flamenco" in his name ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 03:33 PM

Well Peace all I can remember is that the wheel on the crest represents motor city. Why the wing I don't know.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: ToulouseCruise
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 03:39 PM

here is the origin of Detroit's name, and logo...

The Red Wings were called the Cougars until 1932, when a millionaire named James Norris bought the team. Here's the rest of the story, as told by Bob Duff in "Total Hockey: The Official Encyclopedia of the National Hockey League:"

"Norris had been a member of the Montreal Amateur Athletic Association, a sporting club with cycling roots. The MAAA's teams were known by their club emblem and these Winged Wheelers were the first winners of the Stanley Cup in 1893. Norris decided that a version of their logo was perfect for a team playing in the Motor City and on October 5, 1932 the club was renamed the Red Wings."

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 05:29 PM

Thanks spud.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: leftydee
Date: 26 Nov 05 - 10:03 AM

Well Beer,
The Wings took it on the chin again 3-1 to the Ducks. Guess who was in goal?    Lefty

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: leftydee
Date: 26 Nov 05 - 10:54 AM

Well Beer,
The Wings took it on the chin again 3-1 to the Ducks. Guess who was in goal?    Lefty

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 26 Nov 05 - 11:38 AM

Oh Nooo!!!!!!!!1

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 27 Nov 05 - 11:14 AM

Refreshed with a win.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: leftydee
Date: 27 Nov 05 - 12:37 PM

I fell asleep just after Ozzy gave up the 5-4 lead. What happened? Lefty

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: ToulouseCruise
Date: 27 Nov 05 - 12:43 PM

Ahhh.... Toronto over Montreal, 4-3, Sundin scoring in overtime... all is once again good in the world.

Brian

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 27 Nov 05 - 01:45 PM

Shanahan scored 70 second apart late in the third to tie and win the game. 7-6

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: leftydee
Date: 27 Nov 05 - 07:58 PM

Gotta love Shanny!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: leftydee
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 07:10 PM

Well, Beer it looks like the hockey thread is dying and the only interested parties are Red Wings fans. I guess they can see the inevitable happening and are crawling away like rats. Last night they played rookie goaler and he did well. Onward!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 07:37 PM

Well lefty, as a Senators fan there isn't much to say that wouldn't sound like gloating, their record speaks for itself. All I say is:

GO SENS GO!!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 08:06 PM

Lefty, Bobad is right. I only wish we would be facing off for a few games. Good point though. The site has been very in active.
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Pseudolus
Date: 30 Nov 05 - 01:26 PM

Well, maybe it's time for the standings again!!

Senators:      19 - 3   (Jack the Sailor, bobad)
Red Wings:    18 - 6   (Leftydee, Beer)
Canucks:       15 - 8   (theBigPinkLad, Dianavan)
Flyers:       14 - 6   (Pseudolus, Mark Cohen)
Stars:         15 - 7   (Aine)
Leafs:         14 - 8   (ToulouseCruise, Steve Latimer, Mooh)
Flames:       14 - 9   (Bardford, Gnu)
Oilers:       14 - 11 (Peace)
Devils:       12 - 9   (WFDU - Ron Olesko)
Blackhawks:    9 - 14   (WYSIWYG, Hardiman)
Caps:          8 - 14   (Bobert)
Pens:          7 - 12   (Chili)
Blue Jackets: 6 - 18   (spaw)


Go Flyers!!

Subject: Hockey Joy Is....
From: wysiwyg
Date: 01 Dec 05 - 12:09 AM

Hockey Joy is that indescribably peaceful reaction when your team is winning on the eve of your 5th housefire anniversary; on the same day you have been acutely remembering a close friend's death because you've JUST delivered his stories to his widow after a week immersed in them retyping and proofing, and she stopped by to say a thank-you; on the same day another very old dear friend has been SO ALIVE (after a stroke everyone thought had extinguished him); and on the same day your sister suddenly wants to talk about your mom's "Terri Schiavo Plan" and how your brother wants to fight her; and on the same day your mom is fine and just wants to know that we love her and that we aren't going to have a fight about her plan-- or MAKE her stay after she's DONE with everything she ever wanted to do or committed to doing and can REST....

...that feeling when, on such a day, your team actually holds on for the win instead of pissing it away on that day when you've seen to all these other really important things...

...and when someone you love a whole lot is there incredulously enjoying the game with you, PLUS your sweet, really big, heavy dog is fast asleep and warmly relaxed all over your lap in a big recliner.... and you have comfortably found space for THREE whole beers!

... and then Khabibulin makes a BUNCH of neat saves and you can SEE them on the RADIO!

Gawldang, Hawks, GO! :~)

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Big Mick
Date: 01 Dec 05 - 12:43 AM

Just a damn minute here, lefty and Beer. I was rootin' for the Red Wings when you thought those were chicken wings with ketchup on em. You are going to have to share them with the ole Mick.

Fear the octopus!!!!!!

Mick

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 01 Dec 05 - 07:54 AM

Pseudolus, Sign that man up as a Wing.
Didn't see where you wanted to come on board.
Great, right Lefty?

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: ToulouseCruise
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 11:14 AM

Man, we need McCarthy back here to get rid of those "Reds", heheh

but seriously folks... whassup with the big Boston trade? tossing away Joey Thorton for a dirty hockey sock and a bag of pucks??? Okay, that isn't being fair to Sturm, Strang, and Primeau, especially since they knocked off the Sens last night, and the first two got three points for the B's. But still -- seems a little crazy from the outside looking in.

Oh, and last night...
Toronto - shut out win! yay!
Ottawa - Loses to the B's, yay!
Montreal - blows a 2-0 lead, loses in O/T! yay!

B

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Pseudolus
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 11:21 AM

Big Mick, you are on the list! Just another name on the list of people who will (by rules of this contest) be singing the Flyers praises at the end of the season!!!! :)


ToulouseCruise - Leafs
Steve Latimer - Leafs
Mooh - Leafs
Aine - Stars
Jack the Sailor - Senators
Bobad - Senators
Beer - Red Wings
LeftyDee - Red Wings
Big Mick - Red Wings
TheBigPinkLad - Canucks
Dianavan - Canucks
WYSIWYG - Blackhawks
Hardi - Blackhawks
WFDU - Ron Olesko - Devils
Bobert - Caps
Bardford - Flames
gnu - Flames
Peace - Oilers
Spaw - Blue Jackets
Pseudolus - Flyers
Mark Cohen - Flyers
Chili - Pens

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: leftydee
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 12:03 PM

Big Mick,
Welcome Aboard! I'm an old time (and I do mean old) Wings man too. I was at the Olympia when Number 9 was a kid, then The Joe, and all the awful days before Number 19. What along strange trip it's been!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Big Mick
Date: 02 Dec 05 - 05:12 PM

Jaysus, leftydee, but you are old. I should talk. I got down to the corner of Grand River and McGraw a few times, but just when I was a baby........****snerk****.

The funny bit of all this, is that I live in Philly. I checked the schedule and see that they don't play in Philly, though.

Mick

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: gnu
Date: 03 Dec 05 - 01:48 PM

Gosh!! I just checked and the Flames are doing okay! Not as good as the Senators, but that's to be expected, since Don said they would clean up and, hey, who knows more than Don? Bobad and Jack the Sailor? Maybe. Only six months to find out.

Speaking of ice, Tim Horton's Canadian Curling Trials are on the tube these days. Some good stuff eh!!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 03 Dec 05 - 03:08 PM

Hockey and curling - the fastest and slowest games on ice, eh gnu.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: gnu
Date: 04 Dec 05 - 10:01 AM

Yup. I love the strategy in curling. Now that they mic the curlers, it's even more exciting.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Pseudolus
Date: 08 Dec 05 - 01:46 PM

Well, with the Eagles season officially over, I can concentrate all of my energies to the Flyers! Even with the injuries, they are looking good. Losing Dejardins for a while is unfortunate but I heard Hitchcock on the radio this morning naming 5 players all coming back in the next week!

Go Flyers!
Frank

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 08 Dec 05 - 02:50 PM

Hawks beat the Rangers last night!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 09 Dec 05 - 01:29 PM

I was 2 hours from Detroit but that is as far as I got. The evening they played Jersey I was not able to go. Be back in London next June. Maybe then for the play-off's

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: gnu
Date: 09 Dec 05 - 03:14 PM

Anyone catching the curling? Women's trials are on at the moment... some amazing curling going on.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 09 Dec 05 - 09:27 PM

I just don't understand the scheduling. It was my understanding that the LLeague was divided in two. East and West. Detroit being placed in the West. Not playing Montreal,Toronto, Boston and so on. When the play-off arrive then the top two teams will go for the cup. East against the West.
The ?? is: How come Ottawa is playing Vancouver tonight out West????

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 09 Dec 05 - 09:41 PM

Beer, this is how the NHL explains it:

NHL SCHEDULE FEATURES
RIVALRY-BASED FORMAT

NEW YORK (July 22, 2005) - The National Hockey League is returning with an exciting new regular-season schedule format that emphasizes division rivalries.

Format

    * Each club will play eight games against each of its four division rivals (32 total).

    * Each club will play four games against each of the 10 non-division clubs in its conference (40 total).

    * Each club will play 10 inter-conference games, hosting one game each against all five clubs from a designated division and traveling for one game each against all five clubs from a different division. For the 2005-06 season, Northeast Division clubs will host the Pacific Division and visit the Northwest; Atlantic Division clubs will host the Northwest and visit the Central; and Southeast Division clubs will host the Central and visit the Pacific. Division vs. division assignments will rotate annually.

Features

    * The new schedule strengthens division rivalries; division rivals played each other six times under the previous schedule.

    * The new schedule maintains integrity of the conference-based playoff format; each club continues to play 40 games against non-division, intra-conference opponents.

    * The new schedule allows for continued exposure of teams and star players from the other conference.

    * The new schedule allows for more compelling television matchups, thanks to the combination of stronger division rivalries with continued intra- and inter-conference play.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 09 Dec 05 - 10:35 PM

So next year we should see Detroit out this way. Thanks Bobad, I'll study it closer tomorrow.
How's retirement???

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 09 Dec 05 - 11:14 PM

Suiting me just fine.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: dianavan
Date: 10 Dec 05 - 04:20 AM

bobad, you make me feel so much better. Its confusing to me too but I thought it was maybe because I was a girl or because I didn't grow up with hockey or something but...

...finally, the Canucks have some real competition.

Go Canucks, go!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: gnu
Date: 10 Dec 05 - 06:32 AM

Damn shootouts. Ya'd never see curlers drawing to the button to decide a game.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST,JTS
Date: 12 Dec 05 - 04:16 PM

So far so good.

The Dominator is the best goalie in the game statistically and the Sens have more goals for and fewer goals against than anyone. Ottawa is tied with the Ranger for first with 44 points but they have 5 games in hand.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 12 Dec 05 - 04:21 PM

Yeah JtS but they are starting to get hit with injuries to key players. I guess that goes with the territory but it's screwing up their line configurations and when the top scoring line slumps there isn't another taking up the slack.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST,Bardford
Date: 13 Dec 05 - 07:17 PM

Well, the Flames ain't doing so bad. 2nd overall in the west, and I think 4th overall in the league. Only 6 points behind the Senators. Kiprisoff's goaltending earning him defensive player of the week honours. They're in for the long haul.

On a mullet-related note - Gretzky will not force the Canadian Olympic team players to get Haircuts .

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 13 Dec 05 - 09:19 PM

Wow!!
Detroit down 6-2 to the Thrashers going into the 3rd. and they just finished tying the game with 9:46 minutes remaining. Shanahan has been part of five of the goals.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 13 Dec 05 - 09:24 PM

Sounds like the Thrashers have problems on defence.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 13 Dec 05 - 09:39 PM

No problem with scoring though. Detroit just lost it 7-6.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Dec 05 - 10:53 AM

10:16 AM EST, 12/15/2005
Penguins fire Olczyk, promote former Canadiens coach Therrien (from Baby Penguins)

It makes sense to me.... Olczyk has been calling up player after player from the Baby Penguins, so it's only right that the management calls up their coach, too.

The Penguins were a league-worst 23-47-8-4 during Olczyk's first season as coach in 2003-04, including an 18-game losing streak that would be an NHL record except that one loss came in overtime. But the pressure on Olczyk to begin winning increased when the Penguins won the NHL draft lottery in July and chose 18-year-old Sidney Crosby, considered Canada's best prospect since Penguins owner-player Mario Lemieux.

Therrien, who coached the Penguins' Wilkes-Barre/Scranton farm club to a 21-1-2-1 record that represents the best start in AHL history, was to run the team's practice Thursday and coach his first NHL game since the 2002-03 season Friday night against Buffalo. He was 77-77-13-13 as Montreal's coach from 2000-03.

The 42-year-old Therrien expected to bring a much more disciplined approach to a team that has been criticized for its lazy work habits and inability to stick to a system. He emphasizes controlling the puck and creating turnovers in the transition game.

~S~






~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 18 Dec 05 - 08:55 PM

So.... I spent some time the last few days looking at the UHL, AHL, and ECHL.... apparently there is a USHL too.... plus the various European leagues... a lot to sort out. But do any or all of those leagues play the "new NHL" rules? In other words, if a player is "called up" to an NHL opportunity from the monirs or the foreign leagues, are they already accustoimed to the new NHL rules and rink measurements, or do they have to adjust to that when they arrive?

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Cluin
Date: 19 Dec 05 - 04:42 PM

So hockey fans are just as stupid as most other sports fans. Or is it just Quebecois fans?

Thought that kind of crap was dead and buried, too.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 19 Dec 05 - 05:05 PM

That sort of behaviour is totally inexcusable and reprehensible and goes to show that the Brits don't have a monopoly on loutish sports fans. One would have have thought that blatant racism was a thing of the past but it seems to be alive and well in Chicoutimi. It would be interesting to know if these were kids or adults. This makes me ashamed of my home province.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 Dec 05 - 05:37 PM

More info on "other leagues"--

NWHL

AHL

http://www.theuhl.com/

ECHL

QMJHL

OHL

WHL

MJHL

SJHL

AJHL

BCHL

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 Dec 05 - 05:44 PM

More info on "other leagues"--

NWHL

AHL

UHL

ECHL

USHL

QMJHL

OHL

WHL

MJHL

SJHL

AJHL

BCHL


..... Are there MORE?...........

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 Dec 05 - 05:51 PM

Commissioner reacts to events which occurred last Friday in Chicoutimi
2005-12-19

BOUCHERVILLE, Monday, December 19, 2005 (QMJHL) – The Commissioner of the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League, Mr. Gilles Courteau, issued a statement following the disgraceful gestures and comments directed towards Moncton Wildcats Head Coach Ted Nolan that took place during and after the game in Chicoutimi last Friday night.

Even though no formal complaint was lodge at the QMJHL, the Commissioner finds disgraceful the behaviour of a group of isolated individuals: "I find the events which occurred last Friday in Chicoutimi regrettable. The distasteful and disgraceful gestures and comments aimed at Head Coach Ted Nolan by an isolated group of spectators in no way represent the image of the Saguenéens organization, their players or the fans that attend QMJHL games."

CLICK HERE for full article.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 19 Dec 05 - 06:52 PM

The individuals responsible should be identified and banned from attending all sporting events in the province.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 09:25 AM

UK Hockey: ELITE LEAGUE

Teams/standings:

Belfast 25 106 39
Nottingham 22 58 29
Newcastle 20 64 27
Coventry 21 71 24
Sheffield 17 51 21
Cardiff 20 47 16
Basingstoke 22 50 12
Edinburgh

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 26 Dec 05 - 10:59 PM

3:28 PM EST, 12/26/2005
http://www.nhl.com/news/2005/12/249378.html


Ted Nolan inquires about vacant Devils coaching position

BUFFALO, N.Y. (CP) - Ted Nolan is awaiting a response from the New Jersey Devils after he inquired about their vacant coaching position.

The former Buffalo Sabres coach asked about the opening created by Larry Robinson's resignation through a friend, the Buffalo News said.

Devils president and coach Lou Lamoriello is coaching the team while searching for a replacement.

"I'm always interested in coaching in the National Hockey League because I think I'm good enough to be there," Nolan told the paper. "To leave the situation I'm in now would be tough, but I know I can coach."

Nolan won the Jack Adams Trophy as coach of the year after the 1996-97 season but parted ways with the Sabres after that season and hasn't coached in the NHL since.

He took over the Moncton Wildcats of the QMJHL this season, leading the team to a 24-10-0-2 mark.

On Dec. 16, he was subjected to racist taunts from fans during a 4-3 loss at Chicoutimi, prompting the Sagueneens to issue an apology.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 02:41 PM

Woooo Hooooo!!

League Standings
RK       GP W L   OT PTS GF GA HOME AWAY L10
1 OTTAWA 36 27 6   3 57 158 80 16-3-0 11-3-3 6-2-2
2 BUFFALO 39 26 11   2 54 130 118 13-5-1 13-6-1 8-1-1
3 DETROIT 37 25 9   3 53 140 98 12-5-1 13-4-2 7-2-1
4 PHILADELPHIA 37 24 8   5 53 140 116 13-5-3 11-3-2 8-1-1
5 NASHVILLE 36 24 9   3 51 118 103 16-3-0 8-6-3 6-4-0
6 CAROLINA 37 23 10   4 50 135 122 14-4-1 9-6-3 6-2-2
7 LOS ANGELES 40 24 14   2 50 141 119 13-6-0 11-8-2 7-2-1
8 DALLAS 36 24 11   1 49 122 96 11-7-1 13-4-0 6-4-0
9 NY RANGERS 38 22 12   4 48 119 97 11-5-2 11-7-2 5-4-1
10 CALGARY 38 22 12   4 48 99 95 13-4-2 9-8-2 6-3-1
11 EDMONTON 39 22 13   4 48 128 121 10-6-2 12-7-2 6-2-2
12 VANCOUVER 37 21 11   5 47 126 116 14-3-3 7-8-2 5-2-3
13 TORONTO 38 21 14   3 45 125 122 14-7-1 7-7-2 6-4-0
14 MONTREAL 36 18 12   6 42 102 114 11-5-2 7-7-4 4-5-1
15 PHOENIX 39 20 17   2 42 115 112 11-7-1 9-10-1 5-5-0
16 COLORADO 39 19 17   3 41 144 135 10-6-3 9-11-0 3-7-0
17 TAMPA BAY 39 19 17   3 41 120 125 11-9-1 8-8-2 3-7-0
18 ANAHEIM 37 16 15   6 38 103 102 13-6-3 3-9-3 4-4-2
19 MINNESOTA 38 17 17   4 38 107 95 10-6-1 7-11-3 6-4-0
20 ATLANTA 39 16 17   6 38 132 140 9-7-4 7-10-2 6-1-3
21 SAN JOSE 37 16 16   5 37 114 118 10-4-3 6-12-2 5-4-1
22 NEW JERSEY 38 16 17   5 37 109 121 10-6-3 6-11-2 3-5-2
23 NY ISLANDERS 37 17 18   2 36 121 137 8-8-1 9-10-1 3-6-1
24 FLORIDA 40 15 20   5 35 106 127 12-6-2 3-14-3 6-3-1
25 BOSTON 38 14 18   6 34 111 125 6-6-2 8-12-4 4-5-1
26 CHICAGO 37 13 20   4 30 101 131 7-8-1 6-12-3 2-6-2
27 WASHINGTON 35 12 20   3 27 101 140 8-8-2 4-12-1 4-5-1
28 PITTSBURGH 36 9 19   8 26 100 143 5-9-5 4-10-3 2-6-2
29 COLUMBUS 38 12 25   1 25 80 134 8-11-0 4-14-1 4-5-1

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 11:53 PM

The Senators are seriously slumping. 4 goals in the first period on Emery. Is it safe to say that he is not their goalie of the future?

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST,Texas Guest
Date: 08 Jan 06 - 12:14 AM

My wife and I got to see the Wings whup-up on the Stars a few weeks back down here in HOCKEYTOWN SOUTH. We're counting the days until the
21st of this month when we get to go back to the American Airlines Center to hopefully see the Wings do it again. There were an awful lot of red jerseys and shirts in the arena back in December and it was a lot of fun. I did, however, find my car had been spit upon by the time we got to it - guess that's what I get for having a rather large Red Wing logo on the rear window. GO RED WINGS!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 10 Jan 06 - 03:51 PM

Philly is in first place now, detroit is tied for second with the Sens.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 10 Jan 06 - 11:29 PM

Another 19,000+ pizza slices at the Corel Center tonight, Jack.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 11 Jan 06 - 10:29 PM

Haven't contributed much in the past month. Not because I"ve given up on hockey. In fact I kind of like what I'm hearing. Sure top teams loose some game that make you groan, but hay! It's bound to happen.
Go Wing

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 15 Jan 06 - 12:05 PM

I'm not really groaning but I did think they were better than they are. Losing Spezza and Alfredson for a while has brought them back to the pack, but maybe that will be a good thng in the long run as the second tier players begin to take up the slack.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 17 Jan 06 - 04:13 PM

SOURCE: http://www.nhl.com/news/2006/01/252920.html

Coyotes' captain files suit over claim of ethnic slur

MONTREAL (AP) - Phoenix Coyotes captain Shane Doan sued a member of Parliament on Tuesday, contending that Denis Coderre falsely accused him of making a slur against French speakers during an NHL game.

Doan also demanded in the lawsuit filed in Quebec superior court that Coderre, a former sports minister, make a public retraction.

Coderre had asked Hockey Canada in a letter Dec. 22 to expel Doan from Canada's Olympic hockey team unless he apologized for the alleged slur to referee Stephane Auger at the end of a Dec. 13 game between the Coyotes and Montreal Canadiens. Copies of the letter were released to the media.

Doan denied making the remark and an investigation by the NHL found no evidence he used an ethnic slur.

Doan is seeking reparations for damages to his reputation over "false and defamatory" remarks made by Coderre, both in his letter to Hockey Canada and to the media. The player asked for $200,000 in moral damages and $50,000 in punitive damages. The motion said Doan, who is earning $3 million this season, would donate any money he is awarded to charity.

Coderre could not immediately be reached for comment.

Doan said he "did not make any comment that could be construed as derogatory toward French-speaking people during the hockey game. Such remarks are completely incompatible with the values I espouse as both a hockey player and a proud Canadian."

Doan, from Halkirk, Alberta, was given a misconduct penalty by Auger for verbal abuse of the officials at the end of the game won by Montreal at Bell Centre. Both referees and both linesmen are French speakers.

Coderre repeated the alleged slur in his letter to Hockey Canada president Bob Nicholson, a copy of which was sent to Canadian Olympic Committee president Mike Chambers. Chambers concluded there was no evidence Doan made the remark and said he was told it may have been made by another player on the ice.

Doan made a request to Coderre on Dec. 23 that he retract his statements within 10 days.

SOURCE: http://www.nhl.com/news/2006/01/252920.html

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Pseudolus
Date: 18 Jan 06 - 03:48 PM

Forsberg missed the third period last night due to a minor groin pull. One good thing about having a bunch of players hurt, there's always someone coming back from injury! Got a couple more coming back this week. I'm a little worried about Primeau though. This is a long time to be out for a concussion. He claims he's coming back though, just not sure when!

Frank

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 10:35 PM

As a Senator's fan I'm ALMOST starting to feel sorry for the Maple Leafs. Seems like there is some work to be done to get the team competitive in the new NHL.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 22 Jan 06 - 04:25 PM

Don't you start to feel Bobad. They wouldn't for you. Heck of a whitewash last night eh!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: ToulouseCruise
Date: 30 Jan 06 - 05:58 PM

As a Leaf's fan *sigh*, they weren't expected to do great this year... the last bunch of losses really have a lot to do with the amount of injuries out to key players (read: Lindros, McCabe, Tucker), though the Head Office did absofreakinlutely nothing to go out and trade for key players to assist, and to dump off players that have been crap (PLEASE send Berg and Allison to the minors and HOPEFULLY someone will claim 'em off of waivers)....

brighter side, McCabe is due to be back tomorrow night. ah well.

Brian

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST,JTS
Date: 21 Mar 06 - 07:19 PM

1 DETROIT 67 47 15   5 99 252 172 23-9-2 24-6-3 8-2-0
2 OTTAWA 67 46 15   6 98 266 160 25-6-1 21-9-5 8-1-1
3 CAROLINA 67 45 16   6 96 253 207 27-5-1 18-11-5 6-2-2
4 BUFFALO 67 44 18   5 93 231 194 23-8-3 21-10-2 8-2-0
5 DALLAS 68 45 20   3 93 225 180 22-11-1 23-9-2 7-3-0
6 NASHVILLE 68 41 19   8 90 216 189 27-6-1 14-13-7 7-1-2
7 NY RANGERS 68 39 19   10 88 219 167 22-7-6 17-12-4 4-4-2
8 CALGARY 67 38 21   8 84 175 170 24-7-3 14-14-5 5-4-1
9 PHILADELPHIA 68 37 21   10 84 224 220 18-10-6 19-11-4 4-5-1
10 COLORADO 69 38 25   6 82 244 211 21-8-5 17-17-1 6-4-0
11 ANAHEIM 67 34 21   12 80 198 183 20-9-5 14-12-7 7-2-1
12 EDMONTON 68 34 23   11 79 219 218 16-12-6 18-11-5 4-3-3
13 LOS ANGELES 70 37 28   5 79 226 234 22-12-1 15-16-4 5-5-0
14 VANCOUVER 69 36 27   6 78 218 215 20-8-4 16-19-2 3-6-1
15 TAMPA BAY 69 36 28   5 77 216 219 18-12-2 18-16-3 4-5-1
16 SAN JOSE 66 33 23   10 76 211 200 22-7-6 11-16-4 6-2-2
17 NEW JERSEY 67 34 25   8 76 187 193 21-10-3 13-15-5 4-4-2
18 MONTREAL 67 32 26   9 73 193 209 17-10-4 15-16-5 5-4-1
19 ATLANTA 68 33 29   6 72 225 226 19-13-4 14-16-2 7-3-0
20 MINNESOTA 68 31 30   7 69 197 180 19-14-2 12-16-5 2-5-3
21 TORONTO 67 31 30   6 68 205 224 20-12-2 11-18-4 4-5-1
22 FLORIDA 68 29 30   9 67 196 212 20-9-4 9-21-5 6-3-1
23 NY ISLANDERS 67 31 32   4 66 196 231 16-14-2 15-18-2 6-4-0
24 PHOENIX 68 31 33   4 66 203 224 16-16-3 15-17-1 4-5-1
25 BOSTON 69 27 31   11 65 194 218 14-14-6 13-17-5 3-6-1
26 COLUMBUS 68 26 39   3 55 171 238 17-16-0 9-23-3 3-6-1
27 WASHINGTON 67 22 37   8 52 193 263 15-17-6 7-20-2 2-5-3
28 ST LOUIS 66 20 35   11 51 174 235 11-15-5 9-20-6 4-4-2
29 CHICAGO 67 21 37   9 51 171 232 12-18-4 9-19-5 3-6-1
30 PITTSBURGH 68 17 39   12 46 194 268 9-19-7 8-20-5 4-5-1

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 21 Mar 06 - 07:22 PM

29 CHICAGO 67 21 37   9 51 171 232 12-18-4 9-19-5 3-6-1
30 PITTSBURGH 68 17 39   12 46 194 268 9-19-7 8-20-5 4-5-1

LOL-- Those are my boys to a T. I knew it would go like that!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 01 Apr 06 - 09:11 AM

All over hockey-fan-dom, there is frantic prognostication about which teams will make the playoffs. Clipboards everywhere are tracking the permutations: "If my team does this and this and this, and the other teams do this and this and this.... we can still make the playoffs!"

I think it would be far more Mudcatlike to simply predict which of our teams are definitely NOT going to be in the playoffs.

I'll start:


NOT IN THE 2006 PLAYOFFS:
Chicago Blackhawks
Pittsburgh Penguins


What are the dates for each round, anyhow? I can't seem to find any hype yet.

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 01 Apr 06 - 12:14 PM

Well Susan, my wonderful "Wings" lost to your team last night. But not all is bad. Steve Yzerman scored again and is finally healthy. What a strong fourth line. Just in time for the playoffs.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 01 Apr 06 - 12:18 PM

Steve Yzerman - he's still around? Thought he had retired.

It would be a good series if Ottawa and Detroit make it to the finals.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: gnu
Date: 01 Apr 06 - 12:24 PM

Susan... Da da da daaa daaa dada!!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From:
Date: 01 Apr 06 - 12:28 PM

My team most definitely will not make the playoffs, but I'm used to it. But at least we've got Alex!!! Go Caps, Go!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 01 Apr 06 - 02:04 PM

That would be great bobad. I would definitely try and get tickets.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST,Texas Guest
Date: 01 Apr 06 - 03:53 PM

I just hope that ESPN will turn around and pick up the regular season next year - I just don't get to see the Wings enough and that's not going to change without our going to satellite tv. OLN seems to be hung up on the Penguins and a select few others while the Stars only play the Joe Boys down here twice a year. MORE HOCKEY PLEASE!!!!
GOOOOOOOOO RRRRRRRRREEEEEEEDDDDDDDD WWWWIIIIIIINNNNNNGGGGGGGGSSSSS!!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 01 Apr 06 - 05:00 PM

I've only got to see the wings once on T.V. Their not covered here in Quebec as well. However thanks to the computer I listen to most games and enjoy it just as much. The mind formulated great pictures.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: gnu
Date: 01 Apr 06 - 05:04 PM

Oh my... Susan... if you want the REAL inside scoop... check out The Cherry!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST,JTS
Date: 03 Apr 06 - 12:43 AM

Detroit is looking real good to win the Presidents Trophy. Ottawa is still first in the east but they've lost a couple in a row.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: leftydee
Date: 03 Apr 06 - 10:43 AM

Stevie Y is back! The Captain is playing great hockey and the Wings are about to break the all-time record for road wins. It looks pretty good for the boys in Red heading into the playoffs. Ya gotta love a team that wins on the road.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 08:48 AM

And Yzerman scoreeeeeeeeees again.
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 18 Apr 06 - 03:08 PM

Does anyone have the matchups yet, for who will play whom in the playoffs? I know who is qualified, but how will they be organized?

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 18 Apr 06 - 03:28 PM

The eastern division matchups won't be decided until the final games as first place is still up for grabs. We'll know tonight.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: gnu
Date: 18 Apr 06 - 03:39 PM

So... as the grass turns green and my parka is put away... the playoffs still have not started.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 18 Apr 06 - 03:39 PM

Is that why none of the sites have it up yet???

The suspense is killing me!

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 18 Apr 06 - 06:57 PM

The fun will begin very very soon.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 18 Apr 06 - 07:06 PM

And end, all too soon.

Withdrawal Strategies:

Our TV commentator for the Pens uses some distinctive phrases after the Pens score.... I have uused Total Recorder on the NHL highlights to make us a car CD with non-stop goal-scoring. Played back, it sounds like a long and very one-sided game at the net! :~)

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 18 Apr 06 - 07:18 PM

You are one die-hard hockey fan WYSIWYG.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 18 Apr 06 - 07:28 PM

Second that Bobad. You have stuck through the hard times. That's a sign of a true fan.
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 Apr 06 - 10:40 AM

I'm not a diehard, I'm desperate. Thank God the cycling season doevtails so nicely with the hockey season!

Thank you, NHL.com! Now all I need it the skidooly.

~Susan



Matchups for first round of Stanley Cup playoffs

(CP) - Matchups for first round of NHL playoffs beginning Friday and Saturday (seedings in parenthesis):

Western Conference

(1) Detroit vs. (8) Edmonton

Previous meetings: Two, 1987 and 1988, both won by Oilers.

Last time in playoffs: Red Wings lost to Calgary in six games in second round in 2004; Oilers missed last spring, and were eliminated by Dallas in six games in first round in 2003.

Season series: Split - Nov. 3, Edmonton 4 at Detroit 3 (OT); Nov. 17, Detroit 5 at Edmonton 6 (OT); March 18, Detroit 4 at Edmonton 3 (SO); April 11, Edmonton 0 at Detroit 2.

Top goal scorers: Detroit - Shanahan 40, Zetterberg 39; Edmonton - Smyth 36, Torres 27.

Goaltending: Detroit - Legace 2.19 GAA, .915 save percentage; Edmonton - Roloson 2.73, .908.

Synopsis: Before losing their season finale, the Red Wings earned at least a point in 20 consecutive games, but the Oilers usually give them fits so this could be a lot tighter than most would predict.

The talk: "Both teams are built on speed and skill. I anticipate a very difficult, very close series." - Detroit GM Ken Holland.

"We'll go in blind and, hopefully, won't show them too much respect." - Oilers defenceman Chris Pronger.

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(2) Dallas vs. (7) Colorado

Previous meetings: Colorado won 2004 first-round series 4-1; Dallas won seven-game 2000 conference final.

2004 playoffs: Colorado knocked off Dallas in first round and went out in six games against San Jose in second round.

Season series: Dallas had slight edge - Oct. 8, Colorado 3 at Dallas 2; Nov. 5, Dallas 3 at Colorado 2 (SO); Jan. 26, Dallas 3 at Colorado 2 (SO); March 4, Colorado 3 at Dallas 5.

Top goal scorers: Dallas - Lehtinen 33, Arnott 32; Colorado - Sakic 32, Svatos 32.

Goaltending: Dallas - Turco 2.55, .898; Colorado - Theodore 3.41, .882.

Synopsis: Stars are superior in every department, including big edge in goaltending. The Avs prepped Theodore for post-season by using him in last five games, and he went 1-3-1.

The talk: "Colorado has a lot of highly-skilled players who have been in this situation before with Sakic and Hejduk and Tanguay and Blake. You're going to have your hands full." - Stars coach Dave Tippett.

"That's a team that does a lot of things right and they're having a real strong year." - Avs coach Joel Quenneville.

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(3) Calgary vs. (6) Anaheim

Previous meetings: None.

2004 playoffs: Calgary lost seven-game Stanley Cup final to Tampa Bay; Anaheim failed to qualify the year after going all the way to 2003 Stanley Cup final and losing to New Jersey in seven games.

Season series: Split - Oct. 26, Calgary 1 at Anaheim 4; Feb. 8, Anaheim 1 at Calgary 3; April 11, Anaheim 0 at Calgary 3; April 17, Calgary 3 at Anaheim 4.

Top goal scorers: Calgary - Iginla 35, Langkow 25; Anaheim - Selanne 40, McDonald 34.

Goaltending: Calgary - Kiprusoff 2.07, .923; Anaheim - Giguere 2.66, .901.

Synopsis: The Flames, with the league's tightest-checking lineup, won't beat the quack out of the Ducks unless they score more often.

The talk: "They're a very quick team and they've got some good young guys. Their top line with Teemu and McDonald is having a great year and they have good goaltending so we're going to just try to play to our strengths." - Flames captain Jarome Iginla.

"They're going to make it tough so we're going to have to pay a bit of a price in front of the net, get into the corners, and work hard." - Ducks captain Scott Niedermayer.

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(4) Nashville vs. (5) San Jose

Previous meetings: None.

2004 playoffs: Predators made first post-season appearance and lost first-round series to Detroit in six games; Sharks lost conference final to Calgary in six games.

Season series: Split - Oct. 5, San Jose 2 at Nashville 3; Oct. 22, San Jose 1 at Nashville 2; Nov. 2, Nashville 2 at San Jose 3 (OT); March 11, Nashville 2 at San Jose 3 (OT).

Top goal scorers: Nashville - Sullivan 31, Sillinger 31; San Jose - Cheechoo 56, Marleau 34.

Goaltending: Nashville - Mason 2.52, .910; San Jose - Toskala 2.56, .901.

Synopsis: San Jose has the edge because it is one of the hottest teams in the league with eight straight wins, and because Nashville will be without No. 1 goaltender Tomas Vokoun.

The talk: "They have the top player in the NHL in (Joe) Thornton playing the best he has played in his career. They are a well-balanced team." - Nashville coach Barry Trotz.

"It's going to be a fun series. They're a good team, and it's probably going to be a seven-game series." - Thornton.

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Eastern Conference

(1) Ottawa vs. (8) Tampa Bay

Previous playoff meetings: None.

2004 playoffs: Senators were eliminated by Toronto in seven games in first round; Lightning won Stanley Cup in seven-game series with Calgary.

Season series: Senators swept, outscoring Lightning 16-6 - Oct. 21, Ottawa 4 at Tampa Bay 1; Nov. 3, Tampa Bay 2 at Ottawa 4; March 6, Ottawa 4 at Tampa Bay 0; March 14, Tampa Bay 3, at Ottawa 4.

Top goal scorers: Senators - Heatley 50, Alfredsson 43; Lightning - Lecavalier 35, St. Louis and Modin 31 each.

Goaltending: Senators - Emery 2.85, .903; Lightning - Burke 2.82, .895.

Synopsis: Iffy goaltending at both ends and unremarkable play by both teams down the stretch makes this one a toss-up.

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(2) Carolina vs. (7) Montreal

Playoff history: Canadiens have 5-1 upper hand all-time, but last time they met the Canes won second-round 2002 series in six.

Last playoffs: Carolina's last appearance was the 2002 run that took them to the final before losing to Detroit in five games; Habs were swept out of 2004 second-rounder by Tampa Bay.

Season series: Carolina swept, outscoring Montreal 25-9 - Dec. 31, Montreal 3 at Carolina 5; Jan. 23, Montreal 3 at Carolina 7; Jan. 31, Carolina 8, Montreal 2; March 16, Carolina 5 at Montreal 1.

Top goal scorers: Hurricanes - Staal 45, Williams 31; Canadiens - Ryder 30, Kovalev 23.

Goaltending: Hurricanes - Gerber 2.76, .906; Canadiens - Aebischer 3.09, .899, or Huet 2.16, .927.

Synopsis: The Canes have clobbered the Habs all season, and it won't stop now.

The talk: "We're obviously not the favoured team," said Montreal GM-coach Bob Gainey. "But we're happy to be playing, happy to be in the playoffs. That was our goal at the beginning of the season, and we're there."

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(3) New Jersey vs. (6) NY Rangers

Previous meetings: Rangers won all three. Latest was second-round series in 1997.

Last playoffs: Devils out in five against Flyers in 2004; Rangers in for first time since 1997 when they lost conference final to Philadelphia.

Season series: Split - each won four. Oct. 8, Rangers 2 at Devils 3 (OT); Oct. 13, Devils 1 at Rangers 4; Nov. 3, Rangers 4 at Devils 2; Nov. 5, Devils 2 at Rangers 3 (SO), Dec. 20, Devils 3 at Rangers 1; Jan. 22, Devils 1 at Rangers 3; March 4, Rangers 1 at Devils 2; April 9, Rangers 2 at Devils 3.

Top goal scorers: Devils - Gionta 48, Gomez 24; Rangers - Jagr 54, Prucha 30.

Goaltending: Devils - Brodeur 2.56, .911; Rangers - Lundqvist 2.18, .924.

Synopsis: New Jersey has all the momentum. The Devils won their last 11 games, while the Rangers lost their last five, and Lundqvist is just getting back after an injury.

The talk: "It's pretty amazing. Two weeks ago we were worried about getting into the playoffs, and now we're sitting with home ice after winning our division." - Devils forward Jamie Langenbrunner.

"They're hot, but it has to stop somewhere." - Rangers star Jaromir Jagr.

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(4) Buffalo vs. (5) Philadelphia

Previous meetings: Flyers won 5 of 7 series but Sabres won most recent, which was first round in 2001.

Last playoffs: Sabres, back in for first time in four years, were ousted by Pittsburgh in second round in 2001; Flyers lost seven-game conference final to Tampa Bay in 2004.

Season series: Buffalo won 3 of 4. Dec. 19, Sabres 2 at Flyers 1 (SO); Feb. 2, Flyers 2 at Sabres 4; March 11, Sabres 6 at Flyers 5; April 7, Flyers 4 at Sabres 2.

Top goal scorers: Sabres - Drury 30; Flyers - Gagne 47, Knuble 19.

Goaltending: Sabres - Miller 2.60, .914; Flyers - Esche 3.02, .895 or Niittymarki 2.97, .895.

Synopsis: It's easy to underestimate the Sabres. People have been doing it all season. But they've got a goaltending edge, they won the season series against the Flyers, and they finished their schedule on a high.

The talk: "Overall, that was as good a game as we've played all year long." - Buffalo coach Lindy Ruff after Buffalo's fifth straight win, 4-0 over Carolina on the schedule's final night.

"It's OK. I'm ready for the playoffs." - Flyers star Peter Forsberg, who missed five of the last six games with a groin injury.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 Apr 06 - 11:01 AM

Got the news from OLN. They screwed us so bad on cycling coverage the last two years, I cannot believe it yet-- but my local listings say there will be live playoffs every night from 7PM EST till midnight through the first two finals games. I think NBC is doing the weekend games-- but now I know not to plan anyhting for weeknights at least!

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 Apr 06 - 12:05 PM

NHL Schedule:

End of Regular Season
Apr 21, 2006 Oilers Red Wings 7:00 PM EDT OLN,CBC   
Apr 21, 2006 Mighty Ducks Flames 10:00 PM EDT OLN,CBC   
Apr 22, 2006 Flyers Sabres 7:00 PM EDT OLN,TSN   
Apr 23, 2006 Lightning Senators 6:00 PM EDT OLN,CBC   
Apr 23, 2006 Mighty Ducks Flames 9:00 PM EDT OLN,CBC   
Apr 24, 2006 Rangers Devils 7:00 PM EDT OLN   
Apr 24, 2006 Avalanche Stars 9:00 PM EDT OLN,TSN   
Apr 25, 2006 Senators Lightning 7:00 PM EDT OLN,CBC   
Apr 25, 2006 Red Wings Oilers 10:00 PM EDT OLN,CBC   
Apr 26, 2006 Devils Rangers 7:00 PM EDT OLN   
Apr 26, 2006 Stars Avalanche 9:30 PM EDT OLN,TSN   
Apr 27, 2006 Senators Lightning 7:00 PM EDT OLN,CBC   
Apr 27, 2006 Red Wings Oilers 9:30 PM EDT OLN,CBC   
Apr 28, 2006 Sabres Flyers 7:00 PM EDT OLN,TSN   
Apr 28, 2006 Stars Avalanche 10:00 PM EDT OLN,TSN   
Apr 29, 2006 Lightning Senators 7:00 PM EDT OLN,CBC   
Apr 29, 2006 Mighty Ducks Flames 10:00 PM EDT OLN,CBC   
Apr 30, 2006 Rangers Devils 6:00 PM EDT OLN,TSN   
Apr 30, 2006 Sharks Predators 8:30 PM EDT OLN,TSN   
May 1, 2006 Red Wings Oilers TBD OLN,CBC   
May 1, 2006 Flames Mighty Ducks TBD OLN,CBC   
May 1, 2006 Senators Lightning 7:00 PM EDT OLN,CBC   
May 2, 2006 Stars Avalanche TBD OLN,TSN   
May 2, 2006 Devils Rangers 7:00 PM EDT OLN   
May 3, 2006 Mighty Ducks Flames TBD OLN,CBC   
May 3, 2006 Oilers Red Wings 7:00 PM EDT OLN,CBC   
May 4, 2006 Rangers Devils TBD OLN   
May 4, 2006 Avalanche Stars TBD OLN,TSN

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 19 Apr 06 - 12:23 PM

Thanks for all that Info Susan.
beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 Apr 06 - 01:04 PM

Best of luck to all contenders-- take my breath away!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 Apr 06 - 01:09 PM

PS should have included the chart's headers-- the visitor/home thing matters a lot as I am sure you all know. See the first game below for an example how to read the schedule across. Some nights-- TWO games. Hardi will be so happy-- he often works evenings.

~S~


DATE VISITOR HOME RESULT START TIME NAT'L TV

Apr 21, 2006 Oilers @ Red Wings @7:00 PM EDT on OLN and CBC   
Apr 21, 2006 Mighty Ducks Flames 10:00 PM EDT OLN,CBC   
Apr 22, 2006 Flyers Sabres 7:00 PM EDT OLN,TSN   
Apr 23, 2006 Lightning Senators 6:00 PM EDT OLN,CBC   
Apr 23, 2006 Mighty Ducks Flames 9:00 PM EDT OLN,CBC   
Apr 24, 2006 Rangers Devils 7:00 PM EDT OLN   
Apr 24, 2006 Avalanche Stars 9:00 PM EDT OLN,TSN   
Apr 25, 2006 Senators Lightning 7:00 PM EDT OLN,CBC   
Apr 25, 2006 Red Wings Oilers 10:00 PM EDT OLN,CBC   
Apr 26, 2006 Devils Rangers 7:00 PM EDT OLN   
Apr 26, 2006 Stars Avalanche 9:30 PM EDT OLN,TSN   
Apr 27, 2006 Senators Lightning 7:00 PM EDT OLN,CBC   
Apr 27, 2006 Red Wings Oilers 9:30 PM EDT OLN,CBC   
Apr 28, 2006 Sabres Flyers 7:00 PM EDT OLN,TSN   
Apr 28, 2006 Stars Avalanche 10:00 PM EDT OLN,TSN   
Apr 29, 2006 Lightning Senators 7:00 PM EDT OLN,CBC   
Apr 29, 2006 Mighty Ducks Flames 10:00 PM EDT OLN,CBC   
Apr 30, 2006 Rangers Devils 6:00 PM EDT OLN,TSN   
Apr 30, 2006 Sharks Predators 8:30 PM EDT OLN,TSN   
May 1, 2006 Red Wings Oilers TBD OLN,CBC   
May 1, 2006 Flames Mighty Ducks TBD OLN,CBC   
May 1, 2006 Senators Lightning 7:00 PM EDT OLN,CBC   
May 2, 2006 Stars Avalanche TBD OLN,TSN   
May 2, 2006 Devils Rangers 7:00 PM EDT OLN   
May 3, 2006 Mighty Ducks Flames TBD OLN,CBC   
May 3, 2006 Oilers Red Wings 7:00 PM EDT OLN,CBC   
May 4, 2006 Rangers Devils TBD OLN   
May 4, 2006 Avalanche Stars TBD OLN,TSN

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 04:51 PM

Any of you using any of the hockey forums?

One is here: CLICK HERE


They have some pretty good editorial copy there, and stats and stuff. Not too many active posters to get a feel for who's who, it seems. Some of the membernames are a hoot.

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 11:07 PM

Woooooo Hooooooo
Sens Win!!

I was really worried for 40 minutes. They trailed the defending Stanley cup champions for more than twenty. But then da byes came through.

35 saves from than rookie with a 'tude sugar Ray Emery!
Spezza and Havlat with big goals and big assists.

The referees had a lot of influence on the game. But that id the new NHL. We gotta deal with it. Anyway...... Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!

Btw Detroit beat Edmonton, 2nd OT. Booooooo.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 22 Apr 06 - 06:43 AM

Yes Jack, Detroit had a rough go and that was expected. Although they had over 50 shots they played a terrible game. But on the bright side, Steve "Y" got 3rd. star.
It's not Booooooooo !!!!! Jack. It's Yahooooooooooooooooooooo.
"Go Wings Go"

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST,JTS
Date: 22 Apr 06 - 07:50 AM

Beer,

I know its wrong of me to cheer the underdogs in that series while hoping devoutly that the Senators crush Tampa in four. But then, what can you do?

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 22 Apr 06 - 08:05 AM

I'm hoping for an Ottawa - Detroit series. This would put me a few hours away from seeing a game. However, as I say this I'm thinking I probably couldn't afford a ticket anyway. I'm pulling for Ottawa in the East but my heart is still with Detroit.
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST,The Queen
Date: 22 Apr 06 - 08:28 AM

Hockey
The noo

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Apr 06 - 08:28 AM

Wot?

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 22 Apr 06 - 08:29 AM

Hey Beer, if that happens I'll take in a game with you even though I'd probably have to mortgage the house to buy a ticket.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST,The Queen
Date: 22 Apr 06 - 08:29 AM

Hockey the noo

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 22 Apr 06 - 08:45 AM

A few years ago I had a string or two I could pull at the Montreal forum. But they have since retired.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 22 Apr 06 - 08:50 AM

So has the Forum.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 22 Apr 06 - 09:10 AM

How true. Anyway, lets hope for some great hockey.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 22 Apr 06 - 11:46 PM

Wow! Interesting results today.

I watched NJ and NYR on NBC. Jagr is injured and the Rangers can't stay out of the Box. New Jersey was the hottest team coming into the playoffs. I don't think the Rangers will see too many more games.

MONTREAL 6 Carolina 1, Wow!! I thought if Montreal won any games they would be goaltending battles. I guess the Habs can score!

Maybe the Aves are a little better than I thought. Buffalo and Philly should be a good close series.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 23 Apr 06 - 03:26 PM

What great play by the Oilers!

Me, I love underdogs. They furnish all the suspense that makes it exciting!

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Apr 06 - 03:45 PM

Yeah Oilers!!! Great game!!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 23 Apr 06 - 04:46 PM

Just a reminder that tonight's game between the Senators and Lightning is a 6:00 PM ET start.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 23 Apr 06 - 04:53 PM

Oh yes, we have arranged our next several weeks around such facts!

:~)

Best of luck, all.

You know, I really have been focusing on underdogs this year-- Hawks, Pens, even our nearest UHL team (Elmira Jackals). So it is not an understatement to say that I am really enjoying top-level play. In fact, I am assembling a list of things ONLY the really good teams do, and ALL of which a team MUST be able to do in order to win the Cup. Things I haven;t ever seen done in hockey, that these teams CAN do. I'll post it when it;s all over-- and we can chat it up then, and it will help with the withdrawal.


In the meantime-- how many of you had a heads-up that the OT idea would be totally different in the playoffs? A whole full-length intermission followed by one or more extra 20-minute periods of sudden death. I have not heard either OLN or NBC "experts" on this point.... boy do I miss my regular commentators! What else do we need to know about rule differences?

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Apr 06 - 05:48 PM

Yeah Bobad.

We don't have cable (OLN) so we're going out to a pub to watch it on the big screen.


YaaaaaHooooooo!!!!!

Go SENS!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 23 Apr 06 - 08:53 PM

Well, it's on to Florida for the Sens. hope they rediscover the intensity that they are capable of - sure didn't have it tonight. Alfie is missing in action.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Apr 06 - 10:10 PM

THey played well for the first half of the first period. Then they acted like they were afraid of the puck.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 09:44 PM

Montreal going into overtime. Are they for real??
Don't think so.
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 09:51 PM

A lot of lead changes tonight. Pretty exciting game with lots of scoring.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 10:48 PM

Well, well how about them Habs eh Beer. A team on a mission.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 06:39 AM

Have to admit there going to be tough for Carolina to beat.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 06:49 AM

Habs are doing well.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 07:11 AM

Hay!!!!!!!!! Where is everybody gone to????????????

ToulouseCruise - Leafs
Steve Latimer - Leafs
Mooh - Leafs
Aine - Stars
Jack the Sailor - Senators
Bobad - Senators
Beer - Red Wings
LeftyDee - Red Wings
Big Mick - Red Wings
TheBigPinkLad - Canucks
Dianavan - Canucks
WYSIWYG - Blackhawks
Hardi - Blackhawks
WFDU - Ron Olesko - Devils
Bobert - Caps
Bardford - Flames
gnu - Flames
Peace - Oilers
Spaw - Blue Jackets
Pseudolus - Flyers
Mark Cohen - Flyers
Chili - Pens

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 07:43 AM

Ron Olesko is in good shape.

Everyone else on that list has cause for concern.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: leftydee
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 01:56 PM

hey Beer and Tex! 15 to go!! The Oilers are looking good though, but the Wings should be able to handle them. It's so good to have the Octopi back on the ice. Lefty

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 02:11 PM

Wade Redden is back for tonights game. Maybe he'll steady up Ottawa's defense.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 07:07 PM

Good to hear from you Lefty. I wondered where you had went. Now where is Tex, and Big Mick? We need our Red Army here as things should start getting interesting.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 08:04 PM

The first period had the Sens playing the way they are capable of, now if they keep it up for two more they should have this one.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 10:26 PM

well JtS, I trust you had an enjoyable evening watching the game at the pub tonight.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST,JTS
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 03:02 AM

Nope can't afford all that pubbing.

I'm glad at the outcome though.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 09:37 AM

Oh!! Dear......... Now they really need a spark lit under their arse.
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST,JTS
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 09:47 AM

If the Red Wings don't get on their horse, AND SOON!! the old nickname will come back.

"Dead things"

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 11:30 AM

Don't remind me. The Oilers are playing like the Canadians. Lots of passion, nothing to loose and great goaltending.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST,JTS
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 11:33 AM

Yeah who'd a thought at this point the Senators would look like the third best Canadian team.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Pseudolus
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 10:28 PM

Hmmm, I wonder which Flyers team is the real Flyers team. they're driving me crazy but I think they're back!


Go Flyers!
Frank

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 10:38 PM

They won tonight!

Maybe they'll give Buffalo a run for their money!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST,Bardford
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 10:45 PM

So, JTS, your list of Canadian teams looks like this?:

Calgary
Montreal
Ottawa
Edmonton

Pretty much how I see it, too :-)

(I'm thinking we're in for a Habs/Flames final.)

Jeez, I hope Saku's eye is okay...

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 27 Apr 06 - 12:49 AM

Bullshit.... No way for that final.   
Great to see some of the originals on this thread show up.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST,Bardford
Date: 27 Apr 06 - 01:38 PM

I agree, Beer. Now Koivu is out, it's looking more like Devils/Flames in the final....

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 27 Apr 06 - 02:06 PM

Bardford,

When I said it Oilers and Habs were up 2-0


Flames and Sens were at 1-1 and I gave the tiebreaker to Sens for their regular season.



now that all they are all leading their series 2-1, I say GO CANADA!!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 11:09 AM

Now its

Cal 2 ducks 2
Oilers 2 Wings 2
Canadians 2-1 but struggling

and Sens 3 Lightning 1

Go Sens!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 12:08 PM

Any corrections to the below? Someone else update it next? Easy with a copy-paste-fix of the below version.

~Susan


(seeded) games won

EAST

(1) Ottawa 3
(8) Tampa Bay 1

(7) Montreal 2
(2) Carolina 1

(3) NJ 2
(6) NY 1

(4) Buffalo 2
(5) Philly 1


WEST
(1) Detroit 2
(8) Edmonton 2

(2) Dallas 0
(7) Colorado 3
Game four Friday 28th 10 PM

(3) Calgary 2
(6) Anaheim 2

(4) Nashville 1
(5) San Jose 3

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 12:23 PM

NJ - 3
NYR - 0

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 01:57 PM

AT LAST-- a one-page graphic for playoff status at-a-glance:

CLICK HERE

~s~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: ToulouseCruise
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 05:07 PM

okay, I be back.... Leafs are long gone, but enjoying the four Canadian teams who are in it.... I predict either Buffalo or NJ from the east going against Calgary in the west....

Coaching changes? buh bye Quinn, hello Maurice in Toronto... buhbye Crawford, hello Quinn in Vancouver.... GM Patrick gone from Pittsburg, reports that they may get player agent pat Brisson in to take over... gonna be fun playoffs, and fun offseason!

B.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 05:30 PM

Hmmm, it seems many are selling Ottawa short, you may be in for a surprise.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 05:51 PM

I think Bobad is on to something there. The last two games Ottawa has really gelled as a team. Emery played flawlessly last night. No goalie could have stopped the two that went in an he made some great saves. Ottawa showed some much overdue grit on tuesday and if they keep that same fire, they are going to be very tough to beat.

Ottawa matches up very well against this new Jersey team. The Devils sure won't outscore Ottawa 16-2 in three games.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST,Texas Guest
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 06:07 PM

Sure, I'm happy - the WINGS squared it up at two apiece so it's now down to a three-game series. Folks over in Dallas are not so happy though - being down to Colorado by three games. Both teams have a heated rivaly with the WINGS so I'll just sit back and hope for an exciting game tonight; but tomorrow it's - GO WINGS!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 07:44 PM

Right on Brother Tex. Lefty is down at the Joe giving the boys a little pep talk. Don't forget it's an afternoon game. I'll miss most of it as I have to work for an auctioneer.
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 29 Apr 06 - 06:03 PM

Well, the Leafs are out, the season is over for me.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 29 Apr 06 - 09:57 PM

Congratulations you Ottawa fans you deserve to move on. As for the Red Wings, they played as if they shouldn't had even made the play offs. Man what is wrong with them? In fact the whole series so far even the games they've won they stink. The goalie is playing worst than Osgood would. The only spark on the whole goddamn team is Steve Yezeman and he is out. Now that I've vented I feel just a little bit better.
"Go Wings Go"
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 29 Apr 06 - 10:09 PM

Well Beer, the playoffs, as you know, often create unlikely heroes and equally unlikely bums.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 29 Apr 06 - 11:02 PM

Thanks for the congrats Beer, of course since 1999, we've been consistantly been disappointed. We ain't countin our chickens. Congrats to Devils fans. The Rangers had a lot of bad luck this year. The next series probably won't be as easy.

Can the Habs beat Carolina? Probably not, so it looks like NJ vs the Canes and Ottawa taking on the winner of Buffalo-Philly.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST,Texas Guest
Date: 29 Apr 06 - 11:20 PM

Well, Beer, it's now "sudden death" to the end of this series. You're right - the guys haven't played worth a damn this whole series, and, I don't think they deserve to win it, but - this is the
playoffs and they are a great road team, so who knows. About today, though, it seemed as though they couldn't buy a goal for two periods.
Finally - the Stars came out and played a good game last night and I'll write this - if they come back from being down three to zero
they will go all the way to the cup, which, by the way, belongs in HOCKEYTOWN - GO RED WINGS!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 29 Apr 06 - 11:24 PM

Whether the Cup belongs in Detroit this year depends on their playoff goldtending. So far Roloson has been tha man and Legace hasn't. Manny is going to have to step up his game A LOT. For the Red Wings to be a contender.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 30 Apr 06 - 04:31 PM

My fingers are crossed Tex.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: leftydee
Date: 01 May 06 - 10:50 AM

Boy.... am I disappointed!!! Legace has really stunk the place up with all his drama, lying there like he's dead after a goal. It's very uncool to show up your teammates like that. He'd best be on his game tonight. The whole team seems passionless too.I can't imagine what's going on. Hopefully, the real Wings will show up tonight. This was predictable (although, I didn't predict it) as the Oilers have given our boys fits all year. LET"S GO RED WINGS!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 01 May 06 - 10:57 PM

OK Wings fans...

Sorry to say so but its time to pay off the bet!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 01 May 06 - 11:02 PM

Well, you can't blame Legace tonight. Roloson stole the show, especially in the second period.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: leftydee
Date: 01 May 06 - 11:14 PM

Legace stunk but the tying goal was kicked in after being hit with a high stick by Horcoff in front of the net. The officiating was horrendous thru most of the series but.... The Oilers deserved to win. The Wings didn't deserve to be on the same ice as Edmonton. Zetterberg, Lang and Yserman were the only guys that showed up for the series. Now.... back to baseball. Go Tigers!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 02 May 06 - 12:40 AM

OK I got it wrong, the bet is, Sing the praises of the other guy's team when your's get's put out.

SO I guess, what we need to do is say nice things about whoever wins the cup, unless none of our teams wins the cup. In that case we say nice things about the last team in that one of us was rooting for. I's confusing but a fun bet!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 02 May 06 - 01:14 AM

Results so far

ToulouseCruise - Leafs
Steve Latimer - Leafs
Mooh - Leafs
TheBigPinkLad - Canucks
Dianavan - Canucks
WYSIWYG - Blackhawks
Hardi - Blackhawks
Spaw - Blue Jackets

TOAST

Chili - Pens

TOAST but with the best 18 year old in the game.

Bobert - Caps

TOAST but with the best rookie in a year of fantastic rookies.

Aine - Stars
Beer - Red Wings
LeftyDee - Red Wings
Big Mick - Red Wings

Great regular season. TOAST in Playoffs!

Jack the Sailor - Senators
Bobad - Senators
WFDU - Ron Olesko - Devils

Awesome in firt round of playoffs

Peace - Oilers

Giant Killers

Bardford - Flames
gnu - Flames

Pseudolus - Flyers
Mark Cohen - Flyers

TBD

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 02 May 06 - 10:33 AM

Well I guess I better say a few words.
Beer, beer, more beer.
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 02 May 06 - 10:44 AM

A good excuse to drown your sorrows, Beer.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 02 May 06 - 11:37 AM

I'm really going to miss that Oiler/Wings matchup. Most exciting hockey I've ever seen, nevermind the upset factor.

I think that the Oilers reflected a better job of coaching. The Wings played really well IMO, and are the better-skilled, more athletically-talented team. But what I watched was that they were out-coached by creative strategy-flexing and the Oilers' ability to use new approaches at will. Kept the Wings off balance. They'd figure out how to play against things-- the V-trap for one-- and then the Oilers would shape-shift into another direction.

And-- that mean "Manny Chant" was wicked effective!

So I am looking forward to what their coach will try next.

As far as the next round matchups, I heard one of the commentators say recently that the matchups are not predetermined/bracketed as they are in some other sports-- that who plays whom will still be calculated by the seeding they came into the playoffs with. Can anyone clarify?

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 02 May 06 - 12:01 PM

Just kidding Bobad. Haven't had a suds since N/Years day. Had a hard time falling asleep though. Got to play music for the old folks this afternoon. This should help take my mind off this dreadful defeat.
Hay Jack? Did you know that Don Cleary who plays right wing for the Red Wings is from Carbonear??

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 02 May 06 - 12:26 PM

No Beer, I didn't know that Danny was playing with the Wings. But you are correct Cleary


that who plays whom will still be calculated by the seeding they came into the playoffs with. Can anyone clarify?

Below are the rankings at the end of the season. It means as long as Ottawa stays in they will play the team left with the lowest regular season rankings. The second best remaining team will play the second worst. The higher ranking team will retain home ice advantage. If Montreal wins, Ottawa will play them. If Carolina wins, Ottawa will play the winner of Buffalo/Philly

Eastern Conference
RK GP W L   OT PTS GF GA HOME AWAY L10
1 z - OTTAWA* 82 52 21   9 113 314 211 29-9-3 23-12-6 3-5-2
2 y - CAROLINA* 82 52 22   8 112 294 260 31-8-2 21-14-6 5-3-2
3 y - NEW JERSEY* 82 46 27   9 101 242 229 27-11-3 19-16-6 10-0-0
4 x - BUFFALO 82 52 24   6 110 281 239 27-11-3 25-13-3 7-3-0
5 x - PHILADELPHIA 82 45 26   11 101 267 259 22-13-6 23-13-5 5-4-1
6 x - NY RANGERS 82 44 26   12 100 257 215 25-10-6 19-16-6 4-6-0
7 x - MONTREAL 82 42 31   9 93 243 247 24-13-4 18-18-5 6-4-0
8 x - TAMPA BAY 82 43 33   6 92 252 260 25-14-2 18-19-4 5-4-1


Western Conference
RK GP W L   OT PTS GF GA HOME AWAY L10
1 p - DETROIT* 82 58 16   8 124 305 209 27-9-5 31-7-3 8-1-1
2 y - DALLAS* 82 53 23   6 112 265 218 28-11-2 25-12-4 4-3-3
3 y - CALGARY* 82 46 25   11 103 218 200 30-7-4 16-18-7 6-1-3
4 x - NASHVILLE 82 49 25   8 106 259 227 32-8-1 17-17-7 7-3-0
5 x - SAN JOSE 82 44 27   11 99 266 242 25-9-7 19-18-4 8-1-1
6 x - ANAHEIM 82 43 27   12 98 254 229 26-10-5 17-17-7 6-4-0
7 x - COLORADO 82 43 30   9 95 283 257 25-10-6 18-20-3 4-5-1
8 x - EDMONTON 82 41 28   13 95 256 251 20-15-6 21-13-7 5-4-1

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 02 May 06 - 01:44 PM

JtS-- to determine the conference winners who will then play each other in the final? Or could both finalists be from the same conference?

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST,Bardford
Date: 02 May 06 - 03:22 PM

WYSIYWG - Conference winners play each other for the Stanley Cup.That's it in the middle. The cup, if memory serves, is named after noted rock star and gritty winger Paul Stanley of Kiss.

Looking forward to an Edmonton/Calgary conference semifinal. The Flames have to first get past a tough Anaheim team in game 7, though.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 02 May 06 - 05:45 PM

Paul Stanley looks like a goalie without his mask. :~)

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 02 May 06 - 09:49 PM

2-1 Carolina in overtime. Great great game.
So now it is Ottawa and Buffalo. As an outsider looking in, I would be tossing a coin as to who will win. Should be a good series. Hope so.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 03 May 06 - 10:05 AM

With the Flyers TOAST, Here is who is left.

Jack the Sailor - Senators
Bobad - Senators
WFDU - Ron Olesko - Devils
Peace - Oilers
Bardford - Flames
gnu - Flames

We'll know about the Flames tomorrow.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: gnu
Date: 04 May 06 - 02:38 PM

I just checked the standings and was elated. Then, I came here and saw that I am down for the Flames. I thought I had the San Hosers, so I went back and read my post on October 5. Now, it's pretty obvious I picked Calgary, on accounta they had the most Canucks, but, technically speaking, I did say, "Anyway, I will stick Tronna up if them's the rules, but, if I can change, I'd like ta pick the Flamin Hosers." So, just like when we were kids out on the pond, I am interpreting that statement to mean the San Hosers, on accounta Calgary went down in flames.

Of course, it's all moot. Don picked the Senators, so.... they are cherry.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST,Bardford
Date: 04 May 06 - 05:14 PM

What a disappointing end for the Flames. Outworked in what I thought was a very boring game.

Oh, well. More time to practice the fiddle now.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 04 May 06 - 10:13 PM

Okay, I lied. The Leafs are out, but I have been watching a bit. I agree, the Flames just didn't show up last night. So, it looks like we're down to two Canadian teams. I sure will have a tough time rooting for Ottawa.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 04 May 06 - 10:30 PM

" I sure will have a tough time rooting for Ottawa."

Why's that?

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: gnu
Date: 05 May 06 - 06:07 PM

Huh? The only Canucks that don't hate Ottawa are the MPs and the Senators (hehehe)... and the Ottawanians, Ottawanics, Ottawananers.... Ottawnaeverthefuck. And Don. He thinks they are cherry.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST
Date: 06 May 06 - 12:27 PM

Interesting start to the second round.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 13 May 06 - 10:13 PM

Well another favorite bites the dust. Ottawa did not deserve to win, the way they played this series, making mistakes that should not be made, even at the junior level. Go Edmonton.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: gnu
Date: 14 May 06 - 08:05 AM

Well, well, well done Sabres. Go Oilers!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 14 May 06 - 08:54 AM

Losing doesn't hurt as much since I am much older. I miss my Wings but I still enjoy a good game. I think I'll pull for Buffalo. How can I go for a team that beat mine out. Yes it is a Canadian team but I never looked at the N.H.L. that way. This of course could be a full topic in itself but I don't feel have the time.
Only two folks left I think. Peace and WFDU
Just maybe we will not have to praise anyone's team.
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST,jts
Date: 14 May 06 - 11:23 AM

Ottawa played badly.

Go Oilers!!

I'll have to cheer for the Canes for as long as they stay in since we're lining in NC, 2 1/2 hours from raleigh.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Anonny Mouse
Date: 15 May 06 - 11:28 AM

My vote for Cinderella team--kinda like the 80's US Olympic team--no real superstars, a lot of names I never heard, but playing like 20 or so guys on a mission for eachother is...the Buffalo Sabres. So far they've left all the prognosticators in the DUST. (or ice-slush?). I think the 'Canes/Sabres' series is the one to watch for pure hockey enjoyment. I believe I'll pull for the Sabres...did any of you see that OT goal by "Pomenville"? (sp?). Geeze--completely baffled Emery.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 15 May 06 - 04:45 PM

Emery should have seeen that one coming.
I have to agree with you a/m. I think the next series will be a good one.
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 May 06 - 05:34 PM

Time for a little rock/paper/scissors talk-- help the sportswriters a bit.

We have oil or sharks, plus sabres and hurricanes.

So--

Oil soaks ducks.

Sabres cut ducks.

Hurricane breaks oil slick.

Oil slicks sabres.

Sharks eat ducks.

Sabres slice sharks.

Sharks survive hurricanes.


Did I miss any?

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Anonny Mouse
Date: 15 May 06 - 09:10 PM

Shark's might survive hurricanes, but Sabres' will slice them anyway-because the oil only helps the Sabres' blades get honed sharper. (wow what a confusing little metaphor! :>) )

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 May 06 - 10:35 PM

Good one!


I'm issuing a fundraising for Mudcat Challenge shortly-- see the "How Can We Help Max" thread above the line please for now.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 28 May 06 - 08:23 PM

Well, well, well. The only person left in the pool is Peace, and he didn't even want to get in on it. Good luck to the Oilers. Wonder what the odds were on the Oilers coming this far?
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: gnu
Date: 29 May 06 - 10:53 AM

Well, well, well. Game 6 in Buffalo. Is the stampede over?

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: gnu
Date: 29 May 06 - 10:56 AM

Can they cut through the storm or will they be blown away?

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Bardford
Date: 29 May 06 - 01:16 PM

Beer - In April, Edmonton was 25-1 according to this site:
Vegas Odds

Buffalo 15-1
Carolina 10-1

I'm hoping for a Buffalo-Edmonton series, but the Hurricanes seem to have a litle momentum after last night.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 29 May 06 - 04:55 PM

Go Oilers.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 29 May 06 - 10:29 PM

Thanks Bardford, those odds are really something.
Appreciate the information. I guess I bet on the wrong team.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 01 Jun 06 - 10:08 PM

Well here we go.
Peace against Carolina
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 01 Jun 06 - 10:31 PM

Two of my favorite teams against each other-- promises to be GREAT hockey, so YES I am glad hockey is back! Go, boys, go!

Ward and Roloson in the same game.

Brind'amour and Pronger, that will be something.

And....

Our dog Faulkner now knows ALL the signs for a goal for the team we're backing:
1. Buzzer [may be absent of team is visitor]
2. Commentator saying SCORE
3. MASSIVE crowd noise
4. The doggie's mommy and daddy are throwing arms in the air yelling YEAH! or SCORE! or HOLY XXXX! [expletive varies]

He knows this because he gets a treat, and now he anticipates them if we are too caught up in the replay to put out! As the TV sound mounts and the commentator voice gets more urgent and the mommy and daddy are sitting rigidly rapt-- he starts wagging his ass JUST like a cheerleader.

(#4 is an absolute requirement, as he has not yet learned the phrases "REVIEWING THE GOAL" or "SENDING IT UPSTAIRS.")

He'll be a bit confused during the finals as we root for two teams, but get very fat.

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 03:21 PM

Two items from NHL.com.

Go OILERS! Go Canes, too (Mark Recchi)!

~S~

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Edmonton Oilers say biting loss in regular season key to NHL playoff success
2:18 PM EDT, 06/03/2006

EDMONTON (CP) - To understand how the Edmonton Oilers have come to be within four games of romancing the Stanley Cup, you need to look back two months to a hellish one-night stand in St. Louis.

It was there in the heart of the Show Me State of Missouri that the copper and blue, fighting for their playoff lives, skated out and played like SpongeBob SquarePants, getting slapped upside the head by an NHL weakling.

But through the madness emerged the method to saving themselves and redeeming a season on the brink.

It was Al MacInnis jersey retirement night April 9 at the Savvis Center and Game 79 in the long march of the NHL regular season.

It was a chance for the Oilers to move up in the congested lower half of the Western Conference playoff race.

The Blues had lost 13 in a row and were starting rookie goalie Jason Bacashihua.

"We were nervous about the game, as nervous as we had been for a game for a long time," recalled defenceman Steve Staios. "Their goalie stood on his head. It seemed like everything was going wrong for us."

The Oilers had to kill off eight power plays. They woke up from a 2-0 deficit to fire shot after shot at Bacashihua in the third period but fell one goal short. They slipped to eighth in the conference and would rise no higher.

The dressing room was a still life portrait of sweat, silence and anger.

"Guys were pissed off," said winger Todd Harvey. "We had an opportunity to seal it.

"We just didn't bring it."

The team then stumbled into Detroit, where coach Craig MacTavish had a meeting with the troops then up and left, leaving his assistants to run practice.

"He probably wanted to kill everyone," defenceman Chris Pronger said at the time.

The loss typified a year of ironic twists, high expectations and unfulfilled promise in the Alberta capital.

It began in August when the new salary-capped NHL had fans lining up at the ticket wicket to be part of a promised level playing field.

General manager Kevin Lowe traded for and signed the biggest ticket of all, Pronger, along with centre Mike Peca.

But the season proved to one of consistent inconsistency. They beat teams above them in the standings, but were fodder for squads below.

MacTavish became Sisyphus, pushing the boulder up the hill with a crucial win on the road, only to see it roll back with a loss at home.

Pronger struggled early by his Olympian standards, but by the new year had solidified himself as the straw that stirred the drink.

Peca was in the tank until late spring, and raised hackles for a news story in which he suggested Edmonton may not be such a good fit after all.

There were freak injuries. Defenceman Matt Greene cut his face when he got smacked by a truck that jumped the curb outside a nightclub. Ethan Moreau wrecked his ankle playing hoops.

Marty Reasoner had one slapshot bruise a lung and another shred his ear before he took it in the neck in March by being dispatched to the lowly Boston Bruins.

Goaltenders Ty Conklin, Jussi Markkanen and Mike Morrison struggled and key wins slipped away as the untimeliest of shots found the twine.

In March, Lowe brought in Minnesota Wild backup goalie Dwayne Roloson to go with speedy Bruins winger Sergei Samsonov.

Roloson needed playing time to shake off the rust. He was streaky and so was the team, but the fans were patient. In letters to the editor, Lowe was instructed, in the following order, to:

-fire MacTavish

-fire the coaching staff

-fire the front office

-fire himself.

The harshest criticism was saved for Roloson, who didn't have the paint dry on his new goal mask when he was being told to take a hike.

"Anyone who thinks Dwayne Roloson is going to lead us to the playoffs needs to give their head a shake," read one epistle.

"This guy is a sieve," shouted another.

(Less than a month later, the Sieve would become sanctified as Saint Roli, with fans rapturously chanting his name after each stunning game-saving playoff save.)

This was not considered unusual behaviour, however, in a city notorious for tough-loving its team.

Praise is lavished when times are good. But when they're not, the Rexall Centre can be a harsh environment.

This year's victim was Cory Cross, an Alberta boy who grew up with dewy-eyed love for the Oilers only to struggle with his big feet in the new roadrunner NHL. He was harassed and heckled, and as he left town in a January trade said tearily, "I'm sure the fans will pick on someone else."

As the snow melted and April arrived, the playoff berth remained maddeningly out of reach.

"We were squeezing our sticks," said Harvey.

Centre Shawn Horcoff said they knew more than a missed playoff opportunity was at stake.

"We know there would have been tons of personnel changes both in the locker-room and in management, and we didn't want that.

"We just knew what we had in here. We knew that if would get to the playoffs we were going to be able to do some damage.

The pressure vice appeared to squeeze even media-friendly Lowe. As he watched one practice, he told a TV cameraman aiming a lens in his direction to point it somewhere else - now. Words were later exchanged, hands shaken, a hatchet buried. The pressure remained.

Then came St. Louis - and redemption.

"We could've packed it in there," said Moreau.

He said after St. Louis and then the flat performance in a loss in Detroit, the coaches brought them off the mat by helping them discover that the answer lay within them.

"We realized the only way for this team to play good is (to have) a lot of energy and a lot of confidence and we manufactured that.

"The coaches created an environment after that Detroit game where you knew you could relax, go out and play - and that's what we did."

The next game - Game 81 at home against Anaheim - they became the last team to make the playoff cut. The pressure was released, exploding like black gold from a gushing oil well.

They haven't looked back, until this week at least, after practice at Rexall.

MacTavish was on his skates, leaning on his stick, and taking in a dressing room of laughing, joking, confident players who moved amongst hordes of reporters as they prepared to head east to chase their dream.

He was asked to reflect on St. Louis and on the day he walked away.

"It was just a case where you have a meeting with your team and sometimes the best statement you can make is .B .B . is .B .B ."

He stops.

"No, I don't want to say that."

He starts again.

"You vent your frustration to a certain amount and then the rest is up to the players.

"As it always is."

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Simulation says Hurricanes will beat Oilers in seven-game Stanley Cup final
1:48 PM EDT, 06/03/2006

(CP) - The video game version of the Stanley Cup ends with the Edmonton Oilers having their hearts broken.

California-based 2K Sports, makers of the NHL 2K6 game, ran a simulation of the Stanley Cup final and Edmonton forced a Game 7 only to watch Eric Staal lead the Carolina Hurricanes to victory.

Staal scored two first-period goals in the decisive game and goalie Martin Gerber made 35 saves as the Hurricanes beat Edmonton 4-2 to capture the franchise's first-ever NHL championship.

It was a disappointing end to an unlikely playoff run for the Oilers, who got to a deciding game with a 5-4 victory on home ice in Game 6. Ales Hemsky led the way with a hat trick in that one.

The right-winger was also key in getting Edmonton off to a good start in the series as he scored both goals in a tight 2-1 victory over the Hurricanes at RBC Center.

Carolina responded in Game 2 with a 6-4 victory on the strength of a goal and assist from Staal to even the series.

In Edmonton's return to the Rexall Centre, the Oilers rewarded their passionate fans in Game 3 with a 4-3 victory. Defenceman Chris Pronger had two goals and Ryan Smyth scored the winner with less than two minutes to play.

But Carolina won the next two games, taking the Oilers to the brink of elimination.

Gerber stopped 54 of 60 shots in Game 4 and Ray Whitney scored the winning goal late in the third period to give Carolina a 7-6 victory before the Hurricanes won 3-2 in Game 5.

Five of the seven games in the series were decided by one goal.

**********************

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 06 Jun 06 - 08:40 AM

Quite a collpase last night. I don't like Edmonton's chances now that Roloson is out. What a shame, I think he would have led them to the cup.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 06 Jun 06 - 09:24 AM

You say he's out? I didn't hear. This could very well be a sad ending to what is (was) going to be a great series. Lets keep our fingers crossed that it still will be.
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 06 Jun 06 - 10:30 AM

Yes, Craig McTavish announced it in the post game interview. Knee. I haven't heard much more, but for them to be saying that he is out for the series this soon after the injury I suspect that it is a torn ACL.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: gnu
Date: 10 Jun 06 - 09:13 PM

What the f***? When I was a lad, we use to "put the puck on the net!!!"

What is this "shoot it into the corner" when you have a 5 on 3!? What is this dancing around until you have an empty net? How can you ever win a game if you don't PUT THE PUCK ON THE NET? Is this stuff fixed? I am beginning to wonder, because this is not exiting hockey... it's exasperating hockey.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 10 Jun 06 - 09:19 PM

Relax. Oilers in seven.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: gnu
Date: 10 Jun 06 - 09:29 PM

Yer close... Oilers in six. If the PUT DAT PUCK ON DAT NET GODDAMN!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 10 Jun 06 - 09:37 PM

True. An empty net goal with the goal tender on the ice--like, is that something new they bes tryin'?

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: gnu
Date: 10 Jun 06 - 10:03 PM

So far in this game, it appears to be so. They dance around and around without taking a shot on the net. Even when they get a 20' shot, they take a slap shot. A slap shot? Scuse me... I don't make millions of $ a year playing hockey, but, sweet suffering moly joly, I can put dat puck on dat net! And without taking a great windup at twenty feet so the defenceman has time to stick his stick out and make a slap shot useless.

Gosh... for someone who doesn't follow hockey, I am some pissed. Must be a latent Canuck gene from my youth.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 10 Jun 06 - 10:23 PM

They didn't have latex jeans in your youth.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Jun 06 - 10:52 AM

gnu, the point of those slappers in "Today's NHL" is to generate rebounds (for close-in or wraparound shots) and to make the defencemen move out of the way (chasing the rebounds for example) to open up lanes for other subsequent shots. And every once in awhile, a slapper does get through and score a goal. But the idea is to use them to generate a series of planned plays closer to the net when an opening is spotted and the defence doesn't realize they and the goalie have been carefully maneuvered out of their preferred positions with several longshots and lured into a more vulnerable set of positions for close or screened shots.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Jun 06 - 03:06 PM

congrats oilers!
Ottawa out and we got a Canadian team against a team two hours up the highway. I don't know who to root for!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: gnu
Date: 11 Jun 06 - 03:13 PM

~S~... well, a good wrist shot can accomplish the same thing. And it doesn't take that extra 2 to 3 seconds. That's an awful lot of time in close quarters.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Jun 06 - 03:14 PM

But the slapper so mesmerizes the D.

And... I kinda have a funny feeling the guys know what they're doing? :~)

GO OILERS!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: gnu
Date: 12 Jun 06 - 05:54 AM

I suppose, if ya have a poor wrist shot, ya compensate best as ya can.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 12 Jun 06 - 10:16 AM

Well, gnu, players have different specialties (as we all do in life). They don't all do all things equally well. That's part of the fun of playing as a team and part of the challenge opponents have to overcome-- to know what's most likely to come from each individual on an oppposing team and also to try to predict how the various line combinations may function given the range of skills of its component players.

GO OILERS!

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: gnu
Date: 12 Jun 06 - 11:03 AM

Oilers in six!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 12 Jun 06 - 12:57 PM

I'd love it, but I have a feeling it's going to be a nailbiter right up to the last minute of the 7th game.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Anonny Mouse
Date: 12 Jun 06 - 01:10 PM

Been awhile since I posted on this one. Obviously, as usual, Buffalo fans are ALWAYS the bridesmaid, NEVER the BRIDE! Damn 'Canes have YET to play a team where some key players have been injured and OUT. Witness game 7 of the Semis: Sabres--4 first line defensive players OUT, best shot blocker-McKee: OUT...best centerman/playmaker, Connelly: OUT. It finally caught up with the gutsiest team the NHL has seen in many decades. So, yeah--I'm pissed, bitter, etc. I think a Sabres-Oiler Cup finale wouldda been great.

So, what happens? 'Canes cream Edmonton in the first two games, and nearly win the third (only lost by a still-disputed goal)-oh, golly, gee, guess what???? THEY KNOCK OUT THE OILER'S NUMBER 1 Goalie (Roloson-who, ironically, was a Sabre for a bit!). Who's next? De-capitate Pronger? I believe the 'Canes will win the cup, but to me it will be a Pyrric (sp?) victory. They have YET (even BEFORE THE SABRES) play a healthy team in their so-called "run to the cup." B'rindAmour made some really assholey comments about Lindy Ruff to in his post-game "victory" interview. Ruff did a great job, and has a little daughter laid up with a BRAIN TUMOR, so let's all pile on HIM! GEEEZ. I Don't like the 'Canes...can ya tell? *G*

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: gnu
Date: 13 Jun 06 - 05:09 AM

Oilers in seven!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 13 Jun 06 - 11:46 PM

Go Oilers.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 14 Jun 06 - 06:17 PM

I just about can't stand the suspense. Yet that is exactly the state of mind I have been in, each time the Oilers came through with any of their impossible playoff victories.

I just wish MacTavish had brought back out the v-trap that so confounded the Red Wings, for that first full game played in these finals without Roli. If he doesn't use it tonight, I think the Oilers are going down. I don't think they can outplay the Canes-- MacTavish has done what he has done with them this year by out-thinking and out-coaching the opponents. I sure hoope he does it again for three more games, starting tonight!

GO OILERS! F*CK WITH THEIR HEADS!

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 14 Jun 06 - 08:45 PM

Have to disagree with you Susan. The "V" trap didn't do the Red Wing in. You don't out shoot your opponent if you are applying the "V" successfully. Detroit out shot the Oilers in every game and in two of them by very large numbers. The "V" doesn't permit you to have many shots on net. The Wings were not surprised by the "V". They have played against that system many times. They lost because of one factor. Rolson won the series for the Oilers. Plain and simple. The Wings also stunk.
As far as the present series I think it will be over tonight. Sorry Peace. You can't win if you can't score. The Oilers have to score on power plays. And their penalties are also doing them in.
But here is what really pisses me off. And here is where I also agree with "Gnu", Put the puck on the net. The only team that could pass the puck about 20 times before shooting "Then Scoring " were the Russians. The power plays are the most exasperating thing to watch. They pass the puck, pass the puck for god knows how many times then shoot and miss the net. Miss The Net!!! When players are in contests and they have targets to hit that pop up in the corners they hit them. In practice they shoot the puck and hit the net area. But in a game they miss the net so many times it is not acceptable. I don't mean when they don't have a clear shot. I mean when they do have a clear shot. They miss the net. A player that is paid X amount of big bucks should be fined and fined heavily each time they miss the net. I know , I know, this is bullshit. Well missing the net on a clear shot is also.
By the way Susan. A slap shot to create a rebound is acceptable. But a slap shot at the net and missing the net is not.
"Go Oilers"
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 14 Jun 06 - 09:04 PM

Have to differ on what won the Oilers the Detroit series, Beer. You CAN score on a v-trap if you are very opportunisitic. And it DID confuse the Wings-- I saw the moment they finally figured out how to play against it, and it was a long time coming.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 14 Jun 06 - 09:38 PM

You mean that you and I and thousands of other fans knew the Oilers were using the "V" trap and the coaches just figured it out when it was to late! Sorry, can't buy that. Rolson won the series. If the Detroit coaches figured it out to late then we should be hired instead.
Good game so far. But the Oilers are still taking to many penalties.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 14 Jun 06 - 10:50 PM

Of course they knew what it WAS. They just took a long time figuring out how to PLAY against it.

Now we're onto overtime. I'm doing OK so far on one breath per minute of play! :~)

GO OILERS!

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 14 Jun 06 - 11:14 PM

:~)

Faulkner her us scream all the way from outside.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 14 Jun 06 - 11:40 PM

Woo Hoo, Great read by Pisani on the steal. What a shot. Keep it going Oilers.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Jun 06 - 11:52 AM

"Pisani's goal was the first shorthanded overtime goal in Stanley Cup Final history."

GO OILERS!

Must get more beer.....

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 15 Jun 06 - 01:17 PM

I think the V-Trap may have prevented the Wings from getting more shots.

I think Roloson played very well, but now they seem to be getting along without him.

I don't know who to cheer for I live in North Carolina, But then Edmonton is a Canadian team....

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 15 Jun 06 - 04:07 PM

Jack , if you looked back you wou;d have seen that the Wings had over 50 shots in one game. In another over 40 and out shot the Oilers in every game. It wasen't the V it was Rolson.
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST,Jts
Date: 15 Jun 06 - 06:34 PM

See? If not for the V that would have been 55 and 44 shots... AT LEAST!!!

;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 17 Jun 06 - 10:58 PM

[giggle]

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Peace
Date: 17 Jun 06 - 11:01 PM

I wonder if Obie will attend Game 7?

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 18 Jun 06 - 03:42 AM

Wow, going to game seven. The Oilers sure came to play tonight.

Go Oilers.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST,gnusanscookie
Date: 18 Jun 06 - 05:35 AM

Told ya.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 18 Jun 06 - 10:04 AM

Laviolette shouldda played Gerber. Not because Ward was bad-- IMO he was not-- but because the Oilers had figured out how to score on him in Game 5, and obviously continued on from there in Game 6. Switching goalies on them would have bought them a bit more room to let Cole have a go getting his legs back. (Maybe the 'Canes expected to lose 6 and used it as a practice a tempo for Cole!)

And wasn't it a shame that there were ice problems that were only just resolved in time for the game's start? And after the "Canes had so much trouble skating on it before?!

GO OILERS! Right up to 7's closing buzzer, maybe overtime, is my bet.

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST,JTS
Date: 19 Jun 06 - 12:28 AM

Wow!

How about them Oilers!!!

Win or lose I'm paying the bet! I'm singing their praises!!

How about them Oilers!!!

(Did anyone pick the 'Canes?)

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Johnhenry'shammer
Date: 19 Jun 06 - 12:48 AM

WYSIWYG, I think that they need to keep Ward in there for as long as possible. If Gerber went in, they'd be in more trouble than they already are.

I'm an avid Avalanche fan and I was heartbroken to see the way their season ended but I've been pulling for our Northwest Division buddies the Oilers ever since and I've been more than pleased. I've got two candidates for the Conn Smythe Trophy: Fernando Pisani for Edmonton and Cam Ward for Carolina. GO OILERS!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Anonny Mouse
Date: 19 Jun 06 - 02:22 PM

While I was adament in wanting the Buffalo Sabres in the finals (I believe they wouldda taken Edmonton in 6), I think Edmonton seem now to have the BIG "MO." They have confuzzled the 'Canes. It will be one heluva game 7, and as someone posted, may likely go into O.T. However--keep in mind the 'Canes are on home turf...and they may just come out roaring for vindication for an Edmonton team that absolutely DOMINATED game 6. Even though the Sabres are out, this may be one of the most entertaining, and close cup series I've seen.

And yeah, now I'm pulling for Edmonton--having grown to detest the Canes for their "big victory" over a Sabres team missing 5 key people. Frankly, the fact the Oilers have rallied to tie the series is amazing. I really thought they were OUT. Kudos to their players and coach.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: gnu
Date: 19 Jun 06 - 08:05 PM

Well... since way back last fall... and only about 9 hours before the Summer Solstice... it is about to be decided, The Holy Grial of hockey.

GO OILERS!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 Jun 06 - 09:14 PM

Yeah,

GO OILERS!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: bobad
Date: 19 Jun 06 - 11:20 PM

Congratulations to the Hurricanes, they gave full measure for the money. Remind me not to base wager on the prognosticatorial skills of mudcatters in the future.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 Jun 06 - 11:21 PM

Now the withdrawal sets in. I'm looking forward to Oiler games, via NHL Radio next year, already.

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Johnhenry'shammer
Date: 19 Jun 06 - 11:31 PM

Hockey's not over quite yet. We still have the NHL awards show on 6/22 and the NHL draft on 6/24. You better believe that my TV will be tuned to OLN on those days.

Congratulations to the Oilers and the Hurricanes for a great series. And of course extra congratulations must go to the Hurricanes and Cam Ward for their Stanley Cup and Conn Smythe trophy victories.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 19 Jun 06 - 11:51 PM

Well, I wanted to see the Cup back in Canada, kudos to both teams for a great series. Congratulations to Carolina for winning the Cup and to Cam Ward who certainly deserved the Conn Smythe Award.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 20 Jun 06 - 02:02 PM

Great series for both teams. In my book"s there were no losers.
And by the way, thanks to Psewdolus (Frank) who seemed to have disappeared after the Flyer's lost. It was his idea at the beginning of last season. It was fun and no one got out of hand.
Have a great summer to all who participated and see you all in the fall I hope.
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST,leftydee
Date: 21 Jun 06 - 11:01 AM

Congrats to the Hurricanes and their fans ( do they really watch hockey in NC?)it was a great series. Too bad about my Red Wings, but how 'bout those Tigers?!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: catspaw49
Date: 21 Jun 06 - 12:13 PM

WEll wwoop-dee-doo for my Subaru! Finally...........

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Pseudolus
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 10:13 PM

OK, I know this thread should be done but I had to fess up. I have had some personal things going on and did not disappear just cause my Flyboys lost. Although it was tempting. In any case Congratulations to the Carolina fans! None of whom seemed to have been represented in this pool. Peace came the closest I guess picking the Oilers.

In any case the Flyers stunk up the joint! Well, at least I have the Phillies...aw, damn!!!!!

Frank

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 27 Jun 06 - 10:26 PM

hEY fRANK, IT WAS PRETTY COOL TO HAVE A SPOT TO TALK ABOUT HOCKEY RIGHT HERE AT mUDCAT. aw crap, damn capslock!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 28 Jun 06 - 08:13 AM

Hope things are better in your personal life Frank. And thanks for the fun all year.
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST,JTS
Date: 29 Jun 06 - 12:15 AM

Yes Thanks Frank.

Right now I'm wearing a 'Canes 2006 Stanley Cup Champions tee shirt that I bought in Cary, NC while the victory parade was happening 10 miles away from me, downtown Raleigh.

I may have to switch from Sens to 'Canes now that we are living in NC (about 2 hours from the RBC Center). At least I'll be able to see them play on TV.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 29 Jun 06 - 04:08 PM

Here's a question one or two of you seasoned hockey nuts may be able to answer.... I am JUST starting to get how the various non-NHL leagues fit together and what their pecking order is considered to be. Can any of you clarify, or point me to a readable chart?!?

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST,JTS
Date: 29 Jun 06 - 07:00 PM

As far as I know for pro North American Pro leagues its

NHL
AHL
Everything else

AHL is where the officail farm teams are.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 29 Jun 06 - 07:03 PM

Thanks-- I do know that part, and I would also love to know how all the under-AHL fit together.

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 30 Jun 06 - 07:10 AM

Susan,

It used to be pretty simple. To use the baseball analogy it went like this. NHL (majors), AHL and Central Hockey League were pretty much on par (AAA), then the International Hockey League (AA), then the East Coast League (A). I have no idea how it works now.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 30 Jun 06 - 09:59 AM

Well, it's a start. Thanks!

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: GUEST,JTS
Date: 30 Jun 06 - 11:01 AM

NHL.com just lists two minor leagues

AHL

And

ECHL which calls its self "AA" hockey on its website.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 03 Jul 06 - 05:13 PM

A great man has just announced his retirement. Steve Yzerman. I would say this even if I wasn't a Detroit fan. A gentleman and a great hockey player. He will be missed and I for one hate to see it happen. But We all get old and even though our minds say one thing the body just doesn't react as it should. Its never easy to admit that your past your prime. Good luck Steve
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 04 Jul 06 - 08:31 AM

I'm sorry to hear that Stevie Y has retired. He embodied everything that a hockey player should, both on and off the ice. The game was better for having him.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 04 Jul 06 - 04:52 PM

A message from two great players.
Beer


"Steve Yzerman was a tremendous hockey player who epitomized everything good about our game. He loved the game and played with passion every night. He was a winner who led Detroit to three Stanley Cups and was always there for his country to represent Canada on the international stage. He was the face of the Detroit Red Wings for the past 20 years and will be remembered as one of the best players and leaders that ever played the game of hockey. It was a pleasure to have worked with him.
-Wayne Gretzky

"Steve was a great ambassador for the game of hockey and will be sorely missed by everyone associated with the Nation Hockey League. Steve was a great leader, a great teammate and most importantly is a great person. I was fortunate to play at the 2002 Olympics with Steve and we won a gold medal together. It was a memorable experience and something I'll always cherish. I wish Steve the best of luck."
-Mario Lemieux

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 04 Jul 06 - 05:27 PM

The Bruins have made some big moves and will certainly be stronger next season. The picked up Zdeno Chara and Marc Savard in free agency. The Senators Signed Martin Gerber as a free agent who attributes his poor performance against Montreal in round 1 to the flu. We shall see.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 04 Jul 06 - 07:15 PM

4:18 PM EDT, 07/04/2006
Front office beckons for Yzerman after 22 years on ice with Red Wings

(CP) - Scotty Bowman calls Steve Yzerman "a real dream to have on your team," and expects the Red Wings' long-time captain to remain a part of the Detroit franchise now that he has retired as a player.

Bowman, who coached Yzerman from 1993 to 2002, doesn't see him as a coach and certainly not as a public-relations man, shaking hands with season-ticket holders and dropping ceremonial pucks at kids' tournaments. He sees Yzerman working in the front office - perhaps as a special assistant to the general manager, as baseball legend Al Kaline does with Red Wings' owner Mike Illitch's other team, the Detroit Tigers.

"He likes to make decisions," Bowman said Tuesday. "I think he'll step back for a month or so and then meet with people to see what he'll do.

"He wants to learn the business."

Detroit general manager Ken Holland and vice-president Jim Devellano told reporters Monday at Yzerman's retirement announcement that they hope Stevie Y will join them in the front office, although that decision has not yet been made.

It is expected that Yzerman will be named assistant GM.

Devellano told the Detroit Free Press they have groomed their captain for front-office work in recent years on the sly, including him in talks on trades, contract signings and other matters.

"We just kept it quiet, obviously, because he was a still a player," Devellano told the newspaper. "Over the last three, four, five years, Kenny Holland and myself have talked to him about eventually joining us on the management staff."

That would keep the 41-year-old Yzerman with the team he spent 22 stellar seasons as a player.

The gifted centre from Ottawa retired as a career Red Wing and the NHL's sixth-leading scorer of all time with 1,755 points. He also led the club to Stanley Cup titles in 1997, 1998 and 2002 and splits most of the team's scoring records with all-time great Gordie Howe.

"He was a wonderful player and a real dream to have on your team," said Bowman. "Some players don't need much coaching and he was one of them."

When Bowman was hired in Detroit, Yzerman was a 10-year NHL veteran and had been the team's captain for eight.

Bowman took a slick, speedy goal-scorer and playmaker and turned him into one of the NHL's best two-way centres while remaining an impact player on the attack.

"When I got there the team was one of the top-three on offence in the league, but they didn't play well defensively," he said. "I told Steve that if he would lead the charge and play well defensively, it would help.

"I said it may cut into his stats, but he didn't care. I compared him to (former Montreal Canadiens centre) Jacques Lemaire, who played with (Guy) Lafleur and (Steve) Shutt, but did a good job on defence.

"He really wanted to win a Stanley Cup. He'd played 10 years for that team and there had been a lot of disappointment. And then he won it three times and he got an Olympic gold medal as well."

Yzerman, who had been turned down by Team Canada early in his career, helped end Canada's 50-year gold medal drought with a victory at the 2002 Winter Games in Salt Lake City.

He was known as one of the NHL's great leaders, although teammates say he lead by example rather than with inspirational speeches or in-your-face confrontations.

"He didn't say a lot, but when he did he meant it, and then he'd go out and show them what to do," said Bowman. "And he was a wonderful role model.

"He never had any incidents in 22 years. No controversies. He was very humble."

Bowman recalled Yzerman several times playing through great pain, particularly with knee injuries late in his career. Some thought he was done when he missed most of the 2002-'03 season to have major knee surgery, but was back the next season.

But age and bad knees finally forced him to retire.

While Yzerman showed last season with 14 goals and 20 assists in 61 games that he still had something to contribute, his production had slowed to where, as he said Monday: "I've given up hope that I'm still improving."

"This was a tough decision for him," said Bowman. "He wanted to play again.

"He told me he could handle most things on the ice, but he didn't want to be a part-time player."

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: Beer
Date: 04 Jul 06 - 07:25 PM

Thanks Susan. That was much appreciated. I hadn't seen that article.
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 04 Jul 06 - 08:13 PM

Hockey coverage has changed so much since my Esposito-era fandom. I feel like I am more a fan of ALL of them than of any one team-- and Yzerman was awesome!

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey's back...Are ya happy about it?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 12 May 07 - 09:48 AM

Since we discussed streaming radio games somewhere upthread, I thought I'd put these tips here.

~S~

======================

Here's how my husband and I enjoy radio games.


1. We really like our "local" team's play caller. He's GOOD. We stream the game on the PC and use Total Recorder-- a nifty, almost freeware program-- to record it as it comes in, which makes that game [I]portable.[/I] So we'll have summer hockey reruns to get us through the post-Stanley Cup withdrawal, long drives for vacay travel, etc. Some of these are games we recorded without listening to them at the time they were playesd, and therefore we have no idea how they turned out.


2. We make the radio calls more "real" for the half-dozen or so teams we halfway follow, like this:

Say my husband will take the home team of the day's game, and I'll take the visitor. We each have a roster printout and we sit in adjoining recliners. He's in his goalie's end for periods 1 & 3 and we can follow the game SO much better because we're each only trying to suss out [I]one[/I] set of players' names in the call, and we can visualize "our" team heading into the other team's zone to score on their ass because the call includes left/right orientation, relative to the offensive team's wing setup.


3. We have mock fights. "You almost scored on my ass, I'm gonna have to kill ya now," for instance, can get pretty hilarious as we playfully try to smack each other, grab and squirt water bottles, sword fight with folded rosters, etc. (The dog gets pretty upset.)

We don't trade chairs for the second-- we each have our chairs pretty well broken-in for custom fit. We just trade rosters. As a result we know quite a bit about quite a few players. By the end of a game we have each got two team's guys fairly well fixed in our minds-- IF it's a good play-by-play caller.


4. We keep a cheap binder chairside, with rosters and broadcast schedules. By the second or third time we've heard a team play, we don't need the rosters anymore after a quick pre-game scan to remind ourselves of their setup.


5. If we're so much in hockey withdrawal this summer that we fire up a game in our camper on a rainy vacay day, it's only going to be a matter of time before the mini-sticks come out, because the only comfy place to sit in there is facing each other, at the small table. I suppose we could curl up in our bunk, but..... well never mind, I won't say. :~)