BS: Fatty Clark Gone

Subject: BS Fatty Clark Gone
From: GUEST,Janine
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 02:58 PM

OK, he's old, fat, smokes, drinks, likes Jazz etc but the only one who could rid us of Blair. Who's left: Splffy Cameron, tne new Tony Blair, and two of the Hang 'em and Flog'em Brigade; or, in the case of Liam Fox, being a doctor, Inject 'em and Flog 'em. Have the Tory MP's shot themselves in the foot?

Janine

Subject: RE: BS: Fatty Clark Gone
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 03:46 PM

No Tory will oust Tony Blair. They're a complete shambles and should not be allowed to run a jumble sale let alone a country.

Subject: RE: BS: Fatty Clark Gone
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 04:02 PM

Who the heck is "Fatty" Clark Gone, besides being Mrs. Gone's little (?) boy?

Subject: RE: BS: Fatty Clark Gone
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 04:06 PM

Kenneth Clarke. I thought he would have been thier best chance.

Subject: RE: BS: Fatty Clark Gone
From: GUEST,Me
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 05:12 PM

whi is Farty Clack anyway?

Subject: RE: BS: Fatty Clarke Gone
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 05:16 PM

I think today's result is definitely the one Labour hoped for.

(Spelling please! Kenneth Clark was the one who wrote Civilisation, and fathered the notorious Alan Clark. No relation.)

Subject: RE: BS: Fatty Clark Gone
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 07:35 PM

Elections are lost by Goverments, not won by oppositions, and we all know this.

Clarke was the one canidate who could tear the party. Again.

I'm glad he's not going to be leader.

Subject: RE: BS: Fatty Clark Gone
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 08:00 PM

Clarke was the one candidate who could tear the party.

I think that is highly unlikely.

To be fair, I don't really think Labour could have worked harder at trying to lose the last election than it did. They succeeded in driving away enormous numbers of people who had voted for them before.

I was rather reminded of the episode of Father Ted where the organisers of the Irish entry for the Eurovision Song Festival are desperately trying to find a way of ensuring they lose; or the Producers where they are trying to guarantee a loss-making show.

However the Tories were even more successful at that game. And this week they are evidently showing they are still past masters at playing to lose.

Subject: RE: BS: Fatty Clark Gone
From: GUEST,wld
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 09:26 PM

my little horse, my little horse!

Subject: RE: BS: Fatty Clark Gone
From: GUEST,Janine
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 02:50 PM

Sorry, Clarke not Clark. Too much wine that night.

Yes Jon, most people like him even tho they may not approve of everything about him. The Tories seem bent on getting rid of their best chances: M Haseltine (not many women could resist shurely!), M Portillo and poor old Ken several times. And who did we get in their place: Duncan Schimt and the Vampire!

Janine

Subject: RE: BS: Fatty Clark Gone
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 03:44 PM

it is no longer considered socially acceptable to call people "fatty."

OOPS, THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN cAPSLOCK, shouted.

~sUSAN

Subject: RE: BS: Fatty Clark Gone
From: GUEST,Janine
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 03:54 PM

Hello Susan

OK, volumetically challenged.

How about 'Spliffy'? Illegal substance temtationally challenged, perhaps.

Best wishes

Janine

Subject: RE: BS: Fatty Clark Gone
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 05:12 PM

People might worry about that in the States, WYSI. We haven't gone that far yet. After all, there was a very successful cookery programme here called "Two Fat Ladies". Clarke would see the expression as one to be accepted and used - if he'd got through to the stage where he was seeking votes from ordinary Tory Party members (that is possibly an oxymoron) he'd probably have used it in his campaign literature.
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"Spliffy" is a very Wodehousian expression, straight from the Drones' Club. As is true of the man himself, it would appear.

"Spliffy" Cameron - that is a name that fits in very well with such Drones as Bertie Wooster, Gussie Fink-Nottle, Cyril Barmy Fotheringay-Phipps (pronounced fungy-fipps), Oofy Prosser, Freddie Widgeon, Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright, Pongo Twistleton, Boko Fiddlesworth, "Tuppy" Glossop, and Bustopher Jones. (A list I got from here.

And he looks the part too...

Subject: RE: BS: Fatty Clark Gone
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 05:57 PM

We do not like stoutist remarks. Folk singers are traditionally that shape.

We also do not like the Seig Heil brigade, no matter who leads them.

We do not like Tony B Liar.

Can we have a socialist party please?

(Respect do not count - they are a one man show financed with dubious oil revenues)

Subject: RE: BS: Fatty Clark Gone
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 06:37 PM

Kevin, I am not describing world cultural practice, I am declaring it as being in effect anywhere in my possible presence.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Fatty Clark Gone
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 08:53 PM

Thank heaven for "Two Fat Ladies"!

Subject: RE: BS: Fatty Clark Gone
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 11:09 AM

We also do not like the Seig Heil brigade, no matter who leads them

Richard, would you mind awfully if you referred to us as 'Thatcherite Scum' or 'Tory wankers' It's just that those particularly pleasent and accurate names would prevent anyone thinking we are the BNP, who do have a number of people dropping by around here.

They really are the Seig Heil brigade.

Thank you so much

Subject: RE: BS: Fatty Clark Gone
From: GUEST,Janine
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 04:40 PM

Would it be 'Optically Challenged Lemon Jefferson or 'Mobility Challenged Clarence' these days, I wonder.

Slightly Vertical Dimentionally Challenged Janine

Subject: RE: BS: Fatty Clark Gone
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 04:46 PM

Good job you don't live in Hull

Subject: RE: BS: Fatty Clark Gone
From: GUEST,Janine
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 03:11 PM

Good page, Jon! Personally I don't mind being called 'luv, duck, hinny, pet' etc. Not so keen on 'madam' though as it feels fawning or sneering; these days makes me check for the wrinkles too! My Husband was taken aback by a West Country taxi driver calling him 'lover' though. Fact is we don't have in English a form of address for strangers which is polite and classless, like the French and others do. However it does lead to those wonderful regional words.

Let's take a more realistic look at all this PC stuff. In Alice somewhere it says that words mean what you want them to mean. The same word can be offensive or affectionate depending on the circumstances, speaker and listener. Like the Austrailians use of 'bastard'. Let's just be careful and considerate perhaps.

Some councils here in the UK have banned the word 'Christmas' even.

Blonde Bimbo Janine

Subject: RE: BS: Fatty Clark Gone
From: wysiwyg
Date: 21 Oct 05 - 06:14 PM

In case I haven't made it clear, I do not mean that I want people to be "PC." I mean that if people keep insulting people based on size, in my presence, I will slug any eejit I have already warned the next opportunity they give me to do it. I don't mean, "I think you should be so nice that you are bland because I have judged you wrong." I do mean, "This is NOT all right with me, and take Fair Warning."

If it's safe for you to use pejorative terms casually at people, where you live, have fun with it if that's fun for you. It isn't safe to do it here.

And I doubt anyone who ate the Two Fat Ladies' excellent cooking were ever stupid enough to call them "Fatty." There's fat, and then there's "Fatty."

~Susan