20 new free downloads from El Greko

Subject: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 22 Nov 05 - 07:58 PM

I have been tidying up my website and with the opportunity I uploaded the MP3s of 20 songs that never made it into the albums. The recordings are fairly rough - on my home kit, with minimal or no multitracking; but decent enough, I think.

Anyway - download to your heart's content from here

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: Charley Noble
Date: 22 Nov 05 - 08:19 PM

That is mighty gracious of you. I may just take a peak at what didn't make it onto the 4 CD's of yours that I have at hand.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: hesperis
Date: 22 Nov 05 - 08:32 PM

W00T! Thanks.

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 22 Nov 05 - 08:55 PM

You getting rich, now you can afford to give it away?

:-)

Say, if you REALLY WANT to give it away...


The money, I meant, not the music!

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 23 Nov 05 - 09:05 AM

What money? This is folk, Robin...

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: Bill D
Date: 23 Nov 05 - 09:30 AM

hey, thanks, George! They are, indeed "decent enough"....made me a playlist already. (fast connection, too!)

Money?, why folks tell me there's TENS of dollars to be made in this business!

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: nutty
Date: 23 Nov 05 - 10:21 AM

One of the wonderful things about George is that [for him] the music is far more important than the money.

Thanks George.

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: Alaska Mike
Date: 23 Nov 05 - 10:44 AM

Q: How does a folk singer become a millionaire???

A: Start with two million.

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 23 Nov 05 - 01:06 PM

George I have just spent a great afternoon listening to your tracks, wonderful stuff. I am still laughing at the lovely idea of all my troubles leaking out through my toes, oh if only that were true!
Thanks a million George.
Giok

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 23 Nov 05 - 02:09 PM

I fixed the broken links to two of them (Sailor's lullaby & If you'd only seen her). Charley, I recommend the first of those to you.

Thanks Giok, nutty, BillD... I just thought the songs should be out there, not sitting in my computer...

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: breezy
Date: 23 Nov 05 - 02:47 PM

and for those who arnt already aware, george is at the C H or WW fc this Fri


and again on sunday as host and support for jeremy taylor

isnt he a nice chap

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: Tannywheeler
Date: 23 Nov 05 - 03:11 PM

Not 'arf, he ain't, breezy.
And generosity goes with the season. (Apparently, EG lives in this season as a permanent address.)
And I am thankful to know the man exists, and sings, and I've had a chance to meet and hear him face to face. What a wonderful world....
Tw

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 23 Nov 05 - 04:32 PM

Hey, thanks, George. I'm enjoying them very much. Were you not happy with these ... or did they just not 'fit' in with what you selected for your albums?

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: alanabit
Date: 23 Nov 05 - 04:47 PM

This is good news. I am looking forward to having time to listen when I have finished the current translation!

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 23 Nov 05 - 05:27 PM

TBPL,
the reasons why they were not included vary. Some were just not strong enough for the albums (yet still good enough to sing in the club), others were too "samey" with ones already selected etc. And on some we just did not agree with the producer (Robb Johnson).

There are songs among them that I would still like to have recorded properly one day; a good example is "The cost of two cannon balls", which I would like to record with a duet (or trio) of female voices - without my voice. Any takers out there?

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: SussexCarole
Date: 23 Nov 05 - 06:47 PM

Oh yes! (please)

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: katlaughing
Date: 23 Nov 05 - 07:40 PM

WOW!! Have listened to two, so far, and have them all downloaded. Thank you, SO MUCH!! I am going to be sure Night Owl hears "Innocent Katy." If you remember the Music Therapy thread, NO shared with us, her use of the autoharp to connect with someone like "Katy." She will love this song.

Your artistry on the guitar is gorgeous, as is your voice!!

Thanks, again,

katdelighted!!

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: Maryrrf
Date: 23 Nov 05 - 07:47 PM

I've got some time off from work the next couple of days and am going to enjoy this very much - spending time listening to the downloads on George's site. Being mostly interested in pure traditional stuff, I don't usually listen to singer-songwriters, but George is the exception. I listen to the CD I got at the Getaway all the time, and I found myself thinking "Well we've finally found a spokesperson for our generation" - he says it all so well and hits the nail on the head so many times. I think his song "Friends Like These" ought to be the theme song for the Getaway next year. Thank you, George, for writing songs that express what so many of us are experiencing and feeling - and for giving them out so freely!

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: hesperis
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 01:08 AM

Really enjoying these, thanks again.

I'd love to sing for you, however might have too much choir training for the lovely folk sound you have there. (I was singing Christmas Carols in the subway the other day and got mistaken for an OPERA singer several times!!! Yikes!) Let me know if you want me to give it a try though.

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: katlaughing
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 02:35 AM

If the song is in the same range as the others you've made available, I wouldn't mind taking a crack at it. I have a lot of experience at harmonising and love to do so. Have to practice a bit, though, and it'd have to be via online means, i.e. email sound files, etc. Alba has a strong and very beautiful voice,maybe she's be iterested, too.

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: breezy
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 04:31 AM

'A spokesperson for our generation'

'songs that express your/our feelings'

Tomorrow night then

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 04:44 AM

Wow - so many offers (I had some by PM as well)... Given the geographical issues, I suggest that people sing it in duets or trios (doesn't have to be accompanied) and send me a cassette/MP3/CD of it. Then I can pick one for the full studio treatment (I'd like it recorded in a proper studio eventually, and I'll pay for it, wherever it takes place). And - how about this - we can suggest it for inclusion in the next Mudcat CD, as an "exclusive" (i.e. it will not appear in any of my personal albums, the Mudcat CD will be the only way one can get hold of it). Just a thought...

For now, give it a try. Watch out for the harmony on the last line of the chorus, it's a weird one...(played in the key of D, the 4 chords for the last line go: F / C / A / D ) If you want the lyrics, PM me or email me through my website (link above) and I'll send them to you.

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: Moses
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 07:18 AM

Of course there are two female Catters who already sing "The price of two cannonballs" and I hope we'll still be doing it for many seasons more. How about it Nessie? Still (almost) remember the worms. Shall we sock it to em again soon?

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: Nessie
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 09:48 AM

Moses - sure.....some of them need a good socking now & then.

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: breezy
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 04:58 PM

girl power

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: My guru always said
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 06:16 PM

Plenty of Girlies to choose from George, myself included....

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 07:08 PM

Hey George,

I canget a very high tenor range, and if you insist, I'll wear a dress...

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 07:26 PM

What - without bricks? Could be interesting...

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 07:41 PM

Where would I put the bricks in a dress George?

Oh! you meant to stand on the bricks! No I can get up that high, if I take a while to warm up the voice properly. As my dad used to say about high sopranos - well she can get up to 'p'...





Ahhhhhhhhh! CAMELS!!!!! Mind your thumbs!

Naughty George!

:-)

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: My guru always said
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 03:59 AM

Oh Robin... Don't tell me that old chest-nut is making the rounds again *groan*

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 04:56 AM

Can I be accused of thread-drift on a thread I started?

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 06:19 AM

MGAS,
just leave the old Chest Nuts of of this - neither George or I have any anyway...

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: Carol
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 09:51 AM

Thanks George, I've got to admit that I don't listen to many singersongwriters but having heard some of your songs before I thought that I might enjoy these and I am.
My only problem is that I don't really normally download music, I'm listening to them one by one via your Web site so can anyone please tell me how I can download them onto my PC, or not as the case??

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 10:38 AM

Carol,

"right-click" on the MP3 button (instead of the normal left-clicking); from the drop down menu select "Save target as...". It will bring up a window for you to select where to save it. Choose the location where you want it saved, and click "Save". Done.

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: jacqui.c
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 12:28 PM

Lovely stuff George. Hope you don't mind - I've now got it on two discs to play in the car.

What a treat!

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: Carol
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 12:35 PM

Thanks George, will have a go, keeping my fingers crossed, if I get really clever I can transfer then onto my MP3 player!!!

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: Chip2447
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 03:45 PM

Thanx, enjoying them as I type...

Chip2447

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: Singing Referee
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 07:03 PM

Just fits on one 80 minute CD, great!

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: hesperis
Date: 25 Nov 05 - 09:02 PM

Kat - "The cost of two cannon balls" is available on that page so you can definitely hear if it's in your range.

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 26 Nov 05 - 01:08 AM

Ok George

Just what IS the cost of "two cannon balls"?!!!

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 26 Nov 05 - 02:53 AM

Robin,

it was the last entry in the paybook of those who died (and were buried) at sea, and would be deducted from the dead sailor's pay before it was handed over to his widow.

This was a practice recorded as being officially followed by the VOC (Dutch East Indies Co), but there is every reason to believe that the English East Indies Company also did it.

The song is about the womenfolk of a town seeing the merchantman on which their men sailed returning and wondering "will I be a widow tomorrow?" (i.e. when the ship docks and they learn the fate of their loved ones). Not at all uncommon - 30% crew losses on a single trip were regularly recorded.

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: The Unicorn Man
Date: 26 Nov 05 - 08:16 AM

Crickey that's nearly as bad as The Luton Postoffice. This thread is great though PG. Even more stuff I can nick and mess up.

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 26 Nov 05 - 08:33 AM

I know that George - I read your web site - but HOW MUCH!!!!!!

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: breezy
Date: 26 Nov 05 - 05:06 PM

4/6p is my guess, whats yours?

Higher or lower?

El G apologises but is detained in bed'rth and will be at the Windward/spotlight for Jeremy taylor tomorrow at the Comfort hotel in St Albans Sunday 27th, and may not be back online till Monday morn , and then he'll be letting you know how knackered he is

for those of you who missed his gig last night, tough.

Subject: RE: 20 new free downloads from El Greko
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 26 Nov 05 - 07:13 PM

I'm interested so as to gauge just how it related to the actual pay scale of the seamen.