BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign

Subject: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: Ron Davies
Date: 26 Dec 05 - 10:33 PM

Well, I'd say the other thread might possibly be long enough and this issue had nothing to do with it anyway.

However, Teribus and any other giant intellect on that side, let's try to keep this simple, so you might be capable of answering it directly--you still haven't done so.

Exactly why is the statement "Before September the 11th, many in the world believed Saddam Hussein could be contained." not propaganda linking Saddam and 11 September 2001"?

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: GUEST,Subodai
Date: 26 Dec 05 - 11:27 PM

The real question is, can Bush be contained? Before September 11th there was some hope he could be. Afterward....a different story. Containment of this administration's aggressive and illegal policies has thus far proven impossible. Many lives have been lost or damaged as a result, and many more are yet to come.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: GUEST,Mr. Smarty Pants
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 12:41 AM

Mr. Bush is much more effective when he is seen publicly in a suit. When he is attired in his 'business casual' he leaves an impression that he just can't be taken seriously.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: Peace
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 12:43 AM

If Americans have never taken a President seriously, IMO they'd better take this one seriously. He is a very dangerous man.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: John O'L
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 02:23 AM

I think I agree with you Ron, that statement would seem to be creating a link between Saddam and Sept. 11th.

Whenever I see Bush on TV, regardless of what he's wearing, he always seems to me to be on the verge of bursting into a high-pitched giggle. He seems to be only just able to hold it in. I wait for him to lose it, but he never does. Not yet at least.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: GUEST,A
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 07:28 AM

Not claiming to be any "giant intellects on that side".

With the above statements, appears the claim cannot be made period.

Anyway, with my mediocre intellect, Ron, would you please rephrase the question?

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: GUEST,A
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 07:39 AM

Never mind, Ron. Would someone please point out the "illlegal policies" being used or is that just someones' daydream.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: freda underhill
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 08:08 AM

Published on Monday, December 26, 2005 by the Washington Post
Bush Presses Editors on Security by Howard Kurtz

President Bush has been summoning newspaper editors lately in an effort to prevent publication of stories he considers damaging to national security. The efforts have failed, but the rare White House sessions with the executive editors of The Washington Post and New York Times are an indication of how seriously the president takes the recent reporting that has raised questions about the administration's anti-terror tactics. Leonard Downie Jr., The Post's executive editor, would not confirm the meeting with Bush before publishing reporter Dana Priest's Nov. 2 article disclosing the existence of secret CIA prisons in Eastern Europe used to interrogate terror suspects. Bill Keller, executive editor of the Times, would not confirm that he, publisher Arthur Sulzberger Jr. and Washington bureau chief Philip Taubman had an Oval Office sit-down with the president on Dec. 5, 11 days before reporters James Risen and Eric Lichtblau revealed that Bush had authorized eavesdropping on Americans and others within the United States without court orders.

But the meetings were confirmed by sources who have been briefed on them but are not authorized to comment because both sides had agreed to keep the sessions off the record. The White House had no comment.
"When senior administration officials raised national security questions about details in Dana's story during her reporting, at their request we met with them on more than one occasion," Downie says. "The meetings were off the record for the purpose of discussing national security issues in her story." At least one of the meetings involved John Negroponte, the director of national intelligence, and CIA Director Porter Goss, the sources said.

"This was a matter of concern for intelligence officials, and they sought to address their concerns," an intelligence official said. Some liberals criticized The Post for withholding the location of the prisons at the administration's request. After Bush's meeting with the Times executives, first reported by Newsweek's Jonathan Alter, the president assailed the paper's piece on domestic spying, calling the leak of classified information "shameful." Some liberals, meanwhile, attacked the paper for holding the story for more than a year after earlier meetings with administration officials.

The admission by two columnists that they accepted payments from indicted Washington lobbyist Jack Abramoff may be the tip of a large and rather dirty iceberg. Copley News Service last week dropped Doug Bandow -- who also resigned as a Cato Institute scholar -- after he acknowledged taking as much as $2,000 a pop from Abramoff for up to two dozen columns favorable to the lobbyist's clients. "I am fully responsible and I won't play victim," Bandow said in a statement after Business Week broke the story. "Obviously, I regret stupidly calling to question my record of activism and writing that extends over 20 years. . . . For that I deeply apologize."

Peter Ferrara of the Institute for Policy Innovation has acknowledged taking payments years ago from a half-dozen lobbyists, including Abramoff. Two of his papers, the Washington Times and Manchester (N.H.) Union Leader, have now dropped him. But Ferrara is unapologetic, saying: "There is nothing unethical about taking money from someone and writing an article."

Readers might disagree on grounds that they have no way of knowing about such undisclosed payments, which seem to be an increasingly common tactic for companies trying to influence public debate through ostensibly neutral third parties. When he was a Washington lawyer several years ago, says law professor Glenn Reynolds, a telecommunications carrier offered him a fat paycheck -- up to $20,000, he believes -- to write an opinion piece favorable to its position. He declined.

Jonathan Adler, an associate law professor and National Review contributor, wrote that when he worked at a think tank, "I was offered cash payments to write op-eds on particular topics by PR firms, lobbyists or corporations several times. They offered $1,000 or more for an op-ed," offers that Adler rejected. Blogger Rand Simberg writes that "I've also declined offers of money to write specific pieces, even though I agreed with the sentiment."

Two years ago, former Michigan senator Don Riegle wrote an op-ed attacking Visa and MasterCard without disclosing that his PR firm was representing Wal-Mart -- which was suing the two credit card companies.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: GUEST,A
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 08:34 AM

Sounds like paying for a college term paper written by someone else.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: dianavan
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 11:08 AM

Although cheating college is unethical, misleading the American public by bribing journalists is propaganda.

Yes, the Bush administration have studied the works of Joseph Goebels very carefully and have used bribery to oil their propaganda machine.

We can be happy that these 'reporters' have been exposed and fired.

Now what can we do about an administration that has no shame or American citizens that can't put two and two together.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: GUEST,A
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 12:53 PM

Pardon me for saying, but I think those with such a vitriolic attitude to bring Goebels into the duscussion would have a problem putting two and two together.
Pause and read about Geobles. It is obvious you are not informed.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 12:56 PM

.sp.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: GUEST,B
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 01:52 PM

"informed by whom, guest A, Fox News? Hopefully not. B

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: GUEST,Crowbar
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 02:22 PM

Yes, American do take Bush seriously. It is the unamericans that constantly find fault with everything he does.

If he was so dangerous, no one would dare say anything negative.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: Peace
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 04:16 PM

"It is obvious you are not informed."

You proclaiming it does not make it so. What is singularly lacking in your pronouncements is stuff resembling fact, substance.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: GUEST,Bobert in North Carlolina
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 05:41 PM

Well, not only is Bush trying to bully editors of both the Post and Times into reproting only the news that Bush wants publishded but now it would appear that PAC money has been paid to folks, who write op-ed columns that propagandize Bush's policies...

Think ol' Tom Jefferson, if he were to come back today and see what Bush is doing wouls probably challenge the whimp to a public duel...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: Ron Davies
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 09:16 PM

I'm only trying to establish that in fact the Bush regime did carry out a propaganda campaign between mid 2002 and March 2003, to convince the US public to support the Iraq invasion they had decided on.

As far as I know, there's only one poor benighted soul who denies this----to the rest of the world it's obvious.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: Peace
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 09:46 PM

'the Bush regime did carry out a propaganda campaign between mid 2002 and March 2003'

That's the word I was looking for: propaganda. Until now I've been calling it bullshit.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: robomatic
Date: 28 Dec 05 - 08:24 PM

Propaganda apparently originated with the R C Church as a shorthand for "Propagation of the Faith."

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: Ron Davies
Date: 28 Dec 05 - 09:30 PM

Well, both Goebbels and the Bush administration have proven themselves dab hands at the art. The mid-2002 to March 2003 propaganda campaign was a smash success, as was of course the campaign of the Swift Boat Veterans for Character Assassination.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: GUEST,Old Guy
Date: 28 Dec 05 - 10:00 PM

Ron: You and Peace are like a French firing squad.

You proclaim something with out the quotes to back it up. You think if you repeat it enough it will be true.

It is not up to otheres to convince you that you are wrong. It is up to you to convince others that you are right, which you have failed to do.

George Bush never fooled me because I can hear things correctly and understand them.

Boobert: Why don't you challenge him to a duel or are are you a whimp?

Where is Anus? Got to have his anarchist proclamations on this thread too to make it official 100% retarded drivel.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: GUEST,A
Date: 28 Dec 05 - 10:43 PM

All the attempts at discrediting GWB is so pathetic.
Again, facts, not feelings. Otherwise, just go on your own minor tangents.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: Peace
Date: 28 Dec 05 - 10:53 PM

How's about a few facts from you, hotshot? Because so far you haven't given a damned one. Makes you nothing more or less than a troll.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: Ron Davies
Date: 28 Dec 05 - 10:58 PM

Old Guy--

You are joining your fellow intellectual giant, Teribus, then, in denying that the Bush regime carried out a--quite successful-- successful propaganda campaign between mid-2002 and March 2003 to persuade the US public to support an attack on Iraq?

Yes or no?

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: GUEST,Old Guy
Date: 28 Dec 05 - 11:14 PM

And you are in the ranks of Al Sharpton, Farrakhan, and Jesse Jackson.

I would rather be in T's ranks.

There was no propaganda campaing. You are imagining it.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: GUEST,Bobert Still in North Carolina
Date: 28 Dec 05 - 11:15 PM

Hey, Bush don't botgher me one bit... I've allready challenged him to a fist fight... I've challenged him to a carrier landing contest so what more can I do???

Yeah, heck, if he waznts to shoot it out with me then I'm sjufre we can accomodate him... I rreally ain't into shootin nobody but I'm sure I can at least take out one of his legs if it it means him admitting that he went into Irag on false premises and agrees to pull the heck ougt and let the enevitable civil war that Bush has created begin.....

Ol' Bobert ain't no whimp...

Fir real....

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: Peace
Date: 28 Dec 05 - 11:15 PM

Right. There is also no moon. We're imagining that, too.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: GUEST,Old Guy
Date: 28 Dec 05 - 11:31 PM

You sure switch from nobody should have to die to shootin' someone in the leg to prove a point.

Did you ever fly an F-102 fighter jet? If not I would not impune the flying skill of one who has.

Now you could say Bush can't do any folk music and that would make him feel real bad.

Yes Peace, you don't sound so sure of it but there is a moon.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: Peace
Date: 28 Dec 05 - 11:33 PM

"Yes Peace, you don't sound so sure of it but there is a moon."

Did you check that with Bush?

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: GUEST,Bobert Still in North Carolina
Date: 28 Dec 05 - 11:44 PM

Nah, Old Guy, maybe you weren't around durin' the carrier landing challenge but I challednged Bush to a jet verses Cesna challenge.... Now he supposed to be the pilot and I ain't got no pilot's license but, hey, who cares.... The challenge is still on the table... I land a Cesna and he lands whatver makes him happy....

He bails and he calls off the Iraq war....

(Wish I'd chosen a tail drtagger but, hey....)

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: Peace
Date: 29 Dec 05 - 12:39 AM

In the photo op, he didn't land the plane.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: Ron Davies
Date: 29 Dec 05 - 10:05 PM

OK "Old Guy"-

1)   Sounds like you'll have to join Teribus at your local library to learn about propaganda.

Again: Exactly why is "Before September the 11th, many in the world believed Saddam Hussein could be contained." not propaganda linking Saddam and 11 Sept 2001?

I'm still waiting patiently for your answer, hoping (vainly?) that you have the brainpower to formulate one--that actually answers the question.

2) Jesse Jackson is an opponent of the Iraq war. I'm fine being with him. It's fascinating that your entire list is black. You wouldn't have a little racist tinge, now would you? If so, you're cordially invited to leave Mudcat. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

3) Interesting that Bush never quite found the time to use those wonderful piloting skills you're convinced he has--use them in Vietnam--though the vast majority of his fellow piloting students did. But he did find time for the important national security mission of helping his chosen candidates.

Can you spell H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-S-Y?

4) Did Kerry fight in Vietnam? Yes or no?
    Did Bush fight in Vietnam?   Yes or no?

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: Bobert
Date: 29 Dec 05 - 10:26 PM

Ron,

Hmmmmmm? Good detective work there... I didn't even see that O-G had very much played the race card, amybe without even knowing it???

Like, yeah, now that it has been brought to my attention, O-G, what's this thing with you thinking that only me and black folks are against the Iraq war???

Like 60 some percent of the Amercian people now think that invading Iraq was plain dumb yet I represent about 1/300,000,000th of them and, ven if all black folk opposed the war that would make (with me) about maybe 15% of the population...

Hmmmmm???? 60-some percent minus 15%.... Think maybe you do have some explaining to do...

No, the Wes Ginny Slide Rule ain't gonna help you outta this mess, O-Guy...

Better start bailin', brother, 'cause yer little racist boat is fillin' up fast!!!

Bail, bail, bail...

Danged, Ron.... The boy went on down... Yeah, he was abiling as fast as an old guy can but the hole was roo big...

Sniff...

I'm sure gonna miss that old fart...

Sniff...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: Peace
Date: 29 Dec 05 - 10:29 PM

I have been reading Conyer's House Resolution 635. I will continue on to 636 and 637. I am beginning to think that the Bush administration (and Bush himself) is in deep, deep doo-doo.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: dianavan
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 02:01 AM

Thats right, Peace. Its about time.

If the dems don't get him, the A.C.L.U. will.

Makes you wonder what might be next. Lets hope its not Cheney.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: Teribus
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 09:54 PM

Ron is very good at quotings bits of things, mainly because by doing so it helps his agruement. Here is a fuller quotation to the one with which he opened this thread:

It is taken from the President's 2003 State of the Union Address

"Before September the 11th, many in the world believed that Saddam Hussein could be contained. But chemical agents, lethal viruses and shadowy terrorist networks are not easily contained.

IMAGINE (referring to something that may happen in the future) those 19 hijackers with other weapons and other plans, THIS TIME (referring to something that may happen in the future) armed by Saddam Hussein. It would take one vial, one canister, one crate slipped into this country to bring a day of horror like none we have ever known.

We will do everything in our power to make sure that that day never comes.

Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent. Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike?

If this threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all words and all recriminations would come too late. Trusting in the sanity and restraint of Saddam Hussein is not a strategy, and it is not an option."

Now back that up with what the President said in his 2002 State of the Union Address regarding the two stage plan in his war against terror:
First - We will strike against the terrorist organisations
Second - We will strike against the regimes that could support those terrorist organisations.

The "Propanda Campaign" that Ron talks about does not and never has existed outside of his own imagination - it really has been "The Propaganda Campaign that Never Was".

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: Peace
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 09:59 PM

Well, Washington's trying to convince someone the war's a good thing.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: Bobert
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 10:15 PM

No, not so, T-TheImiginator....

Propaganda has been very much part of what the Bush adminisration has been about...

It started during the 2000 election when he fly in thousands and thousands of paid goons to harass poll workers who were just terying to do their jobs and it has been a stalworth ever since...

It doesn't matter what the issue...

Takwe the Social Security Reform isssue where Bush went around the country attending these so-called town meetings... Problem is that 100% of the folks in attendence had been handpicked by local Repub operatives and had been screened to be sure they were very much Bush supporters... So they hold tghe so-called town meeting and it makes the local news.... Can anyone with an I.Q. on the plus side of zero say that this wasn't propaganda????

Teribus???

Old Fart???

A-Follower???

Hey. lets get real here... If it talks like a duck and walks like a duck, it's a friggin' duck...

This administartion is so steeped in propaganda that ity os no wonder that a few folks here would hold the views they hold...

T-Employee perhaps has an excuse since he is being paid by the Bushites to defend his client...

But, A and Old-Guy???? Like why would they continue to defend Bush??? If they are also paid then all I can say is that Bush is scrapin' the bottom of the gene pool barrell...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 10:17 PM

Any of you Yanks ever hear of the Office of Global Communications (OGC)?

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 10:26 PM

MR. ESKEW : Yes.

       Q Yeah, my name is Eva Schweitzer. I work for a German daily called Die Berliner Zeitung.

       My question is about one year from now, an office made headlines in Germany, and I think all over the world, but isn't that the office of disinformation? I actually forgot the real name. And it was supposed to put out stories which might be right or not in favor of the American government. So, it is not completely clear if this office is still existing or not. And my question is, is the Office of Global Communications this very same office in another name and another leadership? Thanks.

       MR. ESKEW: Thank you, Ms. Schweitzer for that question, and I appreciate the opportunity to address it, very directly.

       I'll point out that here in Washington we have copies of the executive order, and they're also available on the White House website, in which the president notes that our office assists in the development of communications programs that disseminate truthful, accurate and effective messages about the American people and their government. Let me be very blunt. We're in the business of working with you to provide the facts, provide stories that are accurate and reflect something true about the intent of our government and our people.

       The office in question was not created -- that story was based on speculation, and the White House spoke quickly after the publication of that story to indicate that the president's desire was to have a new office, our office, to coordinate these truthful and accurate messages.

       We -- we're going to deal with overt information. We're going to deal with reporters. We're going to deal with our embassies, and the interaction they carry out with reporters and other public groups around the world in a way that is true to the president's executive order. We'll abide by that very carefully.

       Thank you.

That is from

here

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: Ron Davies
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 10:33 PM

Ok Teribus--

Welcome back.

And now we resume our originally scheduled program.


WHAT IS YOUR ANSWER AS TO WHY THE BUSH QUOTE I HAVE CITED IS NOT PROPAGANDA?


Somehow you have neglected, yet again, to answer that question?

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: Bobert
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 10:38 PM

And guess what, folks???

Give up???

Now it looks as if the Justice Departement is going to harass a bunch of other news folks and whistle blowers in trying to find out who informed the media thjat Busdh was involved in illegal spying on American citizens...

Like what does this say???

Don't turn us in and if you do then whomever you turned us into is gonna pay...

This is reverse propaganda where it isn't what is being said but how you go about the dealing with the folks who won't tell yer lies...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 11:00 PM

RD "many in the world" How many? How many did not? You claim there are many and ask me to explain why. There were not many. There were many more that did not think Saddam could be contained.

Yes Kerry went to Vietnam with a camera and a JFK complex. There he claimed purple hearts dishonestly so he could get the hell back home, out of harms way and try to use them to build his career. A cheap trick. Did he ever release all of his military records?

Bush was a fighter pilot and his unit could have been called up to go to Vietnam but it did not. His daddy didn't pull any strings and the Democrats popaganda campaingn to prove he was a deserter fell on it's ass when it was revealed that the document was forged.

Should he have retrained to land a S-3B Viking on an aircraft carrier to satisfy a few crybabies or is he too busy?

I will answer this one again: Bush did not conduct a propaganda campaign linking Saddam with 9/11. You can repaet your charge a million times iof you want. You have to prove he did rather than me having to prove he did not.

You can call me racist if you want. What do I care? I am allowed to think what ever I want of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. It is your idea to make a connection between anti war and race in order to find shelter for your ass backward opinions created by you personal dislike for George Bush. Is it because he is white? Are you a racist?

Bobert: What do you know about my genes? Are you one of those WV inbreds and therefore suspicious of others? Why do you continue to persue your personal assault against Bush?

The useless "Wes Ginny Slide Rule" couldn't calquelate how many Thermonuclear devices (bombs) could be made from the 1.77 metric tons of partially enriched uranium found in Iraq.

Your current Modus Operandi (MO) consists of thinking up funny names for those that have opposing opinions in order to discredit them. Facts work better than sarcasm.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: Peace
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 11:04 PM

If you believe YOUR facts so much, why do you post as GUEST?

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: dianavan
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 11:19 PM

Dear Guest - Lets hope that whoever logs into the link you provided does not accept the cookies from that site.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 11:19 PM

Peace, stop talking like a jerk. You are smarter than that!

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: GUEST,Old Guy
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 11:26 PM

I forgot to type Old Guy in that 11:00PM Post

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: Peace
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 11:27 PM

You are right, GUEST. So while we're on the subject, perhaps you could answer this: '"The useless "Wes Ginny Slide Rule" couldn't calquelate how many Thermonuclear devices (bombs) could be made from the 1.77 metric tons of partially enriched uranium found in Iraq."' Let us know when you figure it out.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: Peace
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 11:29 PM

"Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: GUEST,Old Guy - PM
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 11:26 PM

I forgot to type Old Guy in that 11:00PM Post"

Gee, who would have guessed?

Subject: RE: BS: Bush Iraq Propaganda Campaign
From: GUEST,Old Guy
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 12:10 AM

Peace: "If you believe YOUR facts so much, why do you post as GUEST?"

I thought I was responding to you and still you make maokery of it. That is the limits of your abilities.

The answer is more than one but you will find fault with that answer regardless, that is your mission, to find fault.

The point was that your son, Bobert, refused to acknowledge that the uranium was found in Iraq. All he can do is think up more Bobertisims, funny stuff, sarcasm and distorting other people's names.

Who is he convincing? Bush's number keep going up no matter how hard he tries.