BS: Republicans Revolting!

Subject: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 09:45 AM

Or shoud that title read "Revolting Republicans"?

A petition is now being circulated in the US House of Representatives calling for an election to replace Rep. Tom DeLay. Pennsylvania Rep. Melissa A. Hart says that doesn't go far enough, sayeth she:

"The Republican Conference is run by a leadership team and when the majority leader position becomes vacant, the conference needs the ability to reassess the leadership team as a whole."

Which of course means there is enough discontent within the House Republican Conference to result in someone actually saying out loud to a reporter that House Speaker Hastert, DeLay's partner in crime, needs to get the boot as well.

So sad watching the right wing fascist Christian anti-government big business party collapsing under the weight of it's own corruption, graft and greed, innit. :)

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: Madeleine
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 09:54 AM

here's some revolting gossip:

jeb is considering running for prez in the next round.

have a nice day!

madeleine

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 09:59 AM

they are not revolting, they are disgusting

I have naturally done a dozen pics in anticipation of a Jeb run.
care for a sneak preview?

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: GUEST,G
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 10:05 AM

.......and disgusting Democrats, eh?

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 10:15 AM

Even Republicans know they can't take power again with the current record national debt without raising taxes to avoid a runaway depression.

OF course Real Estate magnates would make out like bandits in a Depression, so maybe another Diebold win is in the cards.

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: Amos
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 10:18 AM

My instinctive thought is, oh, he'd never make it. But the combination of dynasty, Florida, Diebold, Florida and the SUpreme Court has fooled me before.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 10:20 AM

if not depression - A super inflation no matter what; the Fed Reserve and special Wall Street cash infusions and computer stop programs do.

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 10:21 AM

favorite Greenspan quote:


We don't have a housing bubble, we have foam.

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: Amos
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 10:41 AM

A Depression would drop the values of existing realestate holdings. which is usually what a magnate has. The people who would make out well are those who started out acquiring real estate after the collapse, and sold off during the recovery. Assuming there was one!

A

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: jimmyt
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 10:54 AM

Amos, I am looking to pick up a little beachfront polace in San Diego for say.......$25,000. Keep an eye out for me.

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: Once Famous
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 11:04 AM

Right now the economy is chugging right along again, the stock market is up and unemployment was just announced at a sub 5% 5 year low.

I say, keep up the good work.

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: Amos
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 11:08 AM

Jimmy:

You got a time machine? It only needs to be good for, say 50 years or so. Failing that, how would you feel about a McMansion of a couple of hundred square inches ?

A

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: pdq
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 11:09 AM

Here is a little news about powerful Democrat Bob Graham who was one of the three top candidates for Kerry's VP:


" Bob's father, Ernest "Cap" Graham, who arrived in 1919, bought up nearly 15,000 acres of land after the collapse of the Florida sugarcane industry. This land became the basis for cattle and real estate interests that built the family fortune, of which Bob's share is now worth several million dollars. The family's influence is not contained solely in Florida: the senator's older brother Philip became the publisher of the Washington Post after marrying Katherine Meyer in 1940. Donald Graham, the current publisher, is Bob's nephew.

Graham was born November 9, 1936 in Coral Gables. He attended high school in Miami...Graham went on to earn his law degree from Harvard University. Returning to his home state, he worked with his brothers, Philip and Bill, creating the Graham Cos. and constructing the new town of Miami Lakes from family-owned land. Miami Lakes, which opened in 1962, has reached a population of 23,000 and is Graham's Florida residence."

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: Bill D
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 11:24 AM

jimmyt...if I had the land my mother turned down in Aspen, Colo. for $5 an acre in 1939*, I'd trade it for that San Diego frontage and give you a REAL good deal on some.


*her quote was, "Who'd want land in Aspen, they don't even have a paved road up to it?"

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: kendall
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 11:27 AM

We have conflicting signs...unemployment is under 5%. That looks good, however, we all know that that are those who have quit looking for work, and they are not counted.
But, the big one is, we now have a national debt of 8 Trillion dollars. That MUST be figured in.

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 11:55 AM

If Jeb Bush has any plans of ever running for prez, it'll have to be in 2008. If he passes and a Republican wins, then he'd be unable to run in 2012 (unless that other Repub chose not to run for a second term, which is damned unlikely). So he's either gotta run in 2008 or take a chance on not getting an opportunity to run again until 2016.

Though I personally would not vote for anyone named Bush (unless Sam decides to run), Jeb's imminently preferable to his brother. At least he seems to have something vaguely resembling a brain.

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: jimmyt
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 12:25 PM

I would think it would be difficult for Jeb to get the nomination, personally. Let's face it, regardless of where your politics fall, most rational people would hesitate to place another Bush in nomination at this time. I still say that if the Democratic party chooses carefully, they will be in the Whitehouse easily in 2008. If they continue in the present tack, I don't know.

Gotta have a plan, folks, not just find fault with the way things are, come up with viable solutions.

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: CarolC
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 12:30 PM

jimmyt, you said "if the Democratic party chooses carefully".

In your opinion, who would they pick if they were choosing carefully?

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: kendall
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 01:25 PM

Joe Biden

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 01:37 PM

Them Bushes is sneaky bastards.

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: Amos
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 01:42 PM

As to the economy, it reminds me of those folks who live on huge amounts of credit, buying more house and more car than they can afford as long as they can somehow figure a way to float the plastic numbers around and squeak through. "Lifestyles" can be very tempting.
But if you are of sufficient ethical stature to care that you owe money, then living under a chronic umbrella of huge debt exceeding your assets is very uncomfortable.

The United States is deeper in debt than it has been for years and is focused on consuming, regardless of trade-balance.

Our major exports -- some food products, software, movies, earth-moving equipment -- are vulnerable, our innovation is drifting except in software and video games, and our intellectual stature is badly compromised both in technical and artistic fields, or so it seems to me when I am in a pessimistic mood. But the hard numbers of our economy are a lot less palatable that the short-sighted Dow-heads think it is. Unless you are happy to ignore your debt picture, which is the path of criminal behavior.

Nations can go criminal just as people can -- using excesses of violence, disrupting others' lives, reneging on promises made and so forth.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: GUEST,Nancy King at work
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 01:59 PM

One of the items in my brother's Christmas stocking was a bumper sticker reading, "If Jeb runs, I'm moving to a country where the dictator comes from a smarter family."

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 02:00 PM

http://www.angelfire.com/md2/customviolins/jeb.jpg


http://www.angelfire.com/md2/customviolins/bushroom.jpg

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: Bev and Jerry
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 06:39 PM

Jeb has publicly denied that he has any interest in running for president. That's a sure sign he's interested.

Bev and Jerry

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: Peace
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 07:24 PM

I find the Republicans to be as revolting as the Democrats. A pox on both their houses.

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 08:10 PM

IT'S OFFICIAL! THE DELAY ERA HAS OFFICIALLY ENDED!!!

Today, on this very important, very special day, Tom DeLay announced he would not seek to be reinstated as House Majority Leader.

And not very humbly, either.

Happy days are here again...

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: Bobert
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 08:49 PM

Well, Tom Delay, has officially thrown in the towell.... Yeah, I'm sure he was asked but it a mute point...

Face it, the Repubs were up against the wall.... Even Newt Gingrich told them this week that they were in the same position that the Dems were in the early 90's: a corrupt party...

So, yeah, with the elections coming this November, the Repubs did what they had to do...

Politics 101...

As fir Jeb Bush??? Interesting choice that I wish the Repubs would choose... He'd get beat up purdy bad on how he treated his 'ex-wife, not that the white-man's party gives a crap but, hey, the Repubs do need to hold the pro-life Southern women, too and they might loose enough of them over Jeb's affairs and Iraq0mire to loose a couple Southern states... They don't have any margin for error when it comes to the South... Two states could kill them.... Florida, itself, could kill them but then agin, Jeb would carry it... But he might not carry North Carolina... Heck, given the recent governoral election in Virgina, he could loose here as well.... These two states would put a Dem in the White House...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: jimmyt
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 09:04 PM

CarolC I would try to choose a moderate if I were looking to win the election. Regardless of the feelings expressed in this forum, largely the American people are middle of the road and should be amenable to a candidate that does not come from the Pat RObertson Republican any more than the Kennedy Democrat school of thought. I like Joe Lieberman a lot but I think his political aspirations are through.

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: Peace
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 09:14 PM

jimmyt: It may have escaped you (you being the person you are), but Lieberman is Jewish. How do you think that would fly with middle America?

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: pdq
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 09:21 PM

Barry Goldwater's father was Jewish. That was not a problem to the conservative middle class or rural America because the man had a message we understood. Just don't run somebody like Alan Ginsberg.

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: pdq
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 09:22 PM

Or Ruth Baader-Meinhoff Ginsberg, for that matter.

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: Peace
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 09:31 PM

Thanks. Wasn't aware that times had changed that much.

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: pdq
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 09:57 PM

Times have changed? Since when? That was 1964!

At least Barry Goldwater carried his home state. More than can be claimed by Al Gore.

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: Peace
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 10:03 PM

Fuckin' pardon me.

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: pdq
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 10:17 PM

Maybe. Clemency for sure.

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: Peace
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 10:28 PM

LOL

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: jimmyt
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 10:39 PM

Brucie, I am aware that Joe Lieberman is Jewish. I meant to say that he is the sort of man who has what I consider strong statesman principles that is a moderate politician that would appeal to middle America. Not him particularly, but in the spirit of Joe Lieberman.

Now if you could somehow throw your hat in the ring and we could change some laws to allow a card-carrying Canadian to head us up for a term or two I would work hard to carry Whitfield county for you, supposing a certain dashing dentist could be considered for a running mate...

MURDOCK AND TODD...Does this seem ODD?? vote for Brucie and jimmyt and we will put a chicken in every pot and folk music all around!! We will promise to replace the annoying coins currently in circulation with a combination Lincoln head obverse, Mapleleaf reverse cent,   A ROosevelt with a loon on the dime , and George Washington would be riding a MOOSE on the one dollar bill!   Hell, if this wouldn't get us a shot at the big dance nothin'would...

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: CarolC
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 10:43 PM

Thanks, jimmyt.

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: Hrothgar
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 11:03 PM

I reckon the next US presidential election will be a good one for anybody to lose. This current government has created a disastrous economic situation, and some poor bastard is going to have to clean up the mess. I don't see FDR anywhere in the offing.

Don't bother telling me that inflation and unemployment are low, and economic growth is satisfactory - the fact remains that the US is running a budget deficit with more zeroes than the Japanese air force, and a trade deficit in the same range. Sooner or later, something will come unstuck.

The US could use Keynesian economics to spend its way to recovery to some extent in the 1930s, but that was after a period of more or less balanced budgets and overseas trade surpluses. At the moment, the US is in such a situation that any major borrowing will reduce their government notes to junk bond status.

I wouldn't worry so much if it wasn't that the US is still a major force in the world economy, and if they sneeze we all catch a cold.

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: Peace
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 11:36 PM

Can't do it, jimmy, but I am honoured by the request. I was a town councillor once for a few years and politics just ain't for me. I tend to say what's on my mind and call a spade a shovel. At least a half dozen times I was reminded that 'bullshit' is not an acceptable term to use about another councillor's proposal at a council meeting. But I like the chicken in every garage idea. That would work for me. If I'd thought of that, I'da been the mayor.

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Jan 06 - 08:58 AM

BON VOYAGE, TOM D

YOU FAT FUCK!

1 down, many to go

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Jan 06 - 10:23 AM

he wasn't always fat. he swelled with the job.



here is a revolting cartoon of mone I posted here 2 weeks ago...
http://www.angelfire.com/md2/customviolins/ph8.jpg

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: GUEST,Harrold
Date: 08 Jan 06 - 01:49 PM

Whitehouse.org

January 6, 2006 Soma Evolew

Karl Rove Planning secrete resignation.

It has been kept under wraps but it has leaked out that Karl Rove is planning to quietly resign from the Bush administration. He than is planning to move to a foreign country where he is safe from prosecution and extradition such as France, Germany, Japan or the Cayman Islands

To insure secrecy, not even his wife and children have been told about his plans.

In light of the Valerie Plame affair it is expected that he will be indicted for "perjury, obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence, and intimidation of witnesses."shortly after the new Grand Jury ordered by Gerald Fitzpatrick convenes.

The change is expected to be announced as soon as a    suitable person can be found to fill his position. A secretive, frantic search is underway at the Whitehouse for a replacement with no results so far.

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Revolting!
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Jan 06 - 12:25 PM