'It's all right to like...'

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: TonyK
Date: 12 Mar 06 - 10:50 AM

I heard a statistic that 2 percent of the music produced gets 98 percent of the air time. I think there's strength in diversity. I have to watch out for my own attitudes so I don't come across as a snob. I don't advertise that I listen to Barry or Abba. My 24 yr old son raised both eyebrows when I admitted to listening to 'Dancing Queen', as if he had to reformulate his image of his old man. But I have to be careful not to look at people as an anthropological anomaly because their taste is on the other side of the bell curve from mine.

Ron, only your friends will never let you forget the embarrassing moments.

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: Purple Foxx
Date: 12 Mar 06 - 10:50 AM

Proving your point McG ,I have in front of me the current copy of "Mojo" magazine which contains A cover mounted CD with a track by Donovan (amongst other artists) , a very favourable review of a series of recently re-released Judy Collins albums,an indepth interview with Billy Bragg & a genuinely useful & highly readable guide to buying American Folk music.
This is a Rock music magazine.
Interesting times indeed.

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: Ron Davies
Date: 12 Mar 06 - 11:00 AM

I also really like "Danny Boy" if sung well--with both verses. The picture of somebody dear to the singer looking down on his grave really gets me.

Just heard a really sad bluegrass song--Slippers with Wings. It's solidly in the tradition of the 19th century parlor songs--and really affecting.

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: John Hardly
Date: 12 Mar 06 - 11:22 AM

Yeah, right on! I like the Spinners. Their "It's a Shame" is a great arrangement -- in fact, most of the "Philadelphia Sound" is terrific --early Teddy Pendergast singing with Herman Melville and the Bluenotes. Who could NOT like that stuff?

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: Maryrrf
Date: 12 Mar 06 - 12:37 PM

I like the Clancy Brothers and the Corries. I can often be found driving around singing along with either of these two groups. The arrangements may not be very sophisticated, but darn it - they're enjoyable to listen to.

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: David C. Carter
Date: 12 Mar 06 - 01:20 PM

If I ever hear Dean Martin on the radio it reminds me of my mother.She had some of his records.I liked him then,and I like him now.Doris Day singing-"Take Me Back To The Blackhills",haven't heard it in years,but I find it running through my mind often.

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to,... like uh,...like, Dude'
From: Severn
Date: 12 Mar 06 - 01:24 PM

Whale on Herman Melville, whale on! The Blue Notes were no fluke act!
They single-handedly increased the National sperm count with their romantic fare....

....AND they were named after a chatroom practice, to boot!

What's more, they "blue" notes out of the holes in the top of their heads (kinda like the Purple People Eater with his horn).

...Why, when I figured out I actually liked their stuff, I promptly wrapped my harpoon back up in my dirty red bandana!

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 12 Mar 06 - 01:41 PM

yeh its all right to like all this weird stuff, but if you concealed the fact from someone you were thinking of marrying or moving in with - I think it might be grounds for justifiable homicide

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 12 Mar 06 - 02:53 PM

I think John Hardly may just possibly be referring to these Spinners rather than to these Spinners.

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 12 Mar 06 - 08:10 PM

About two years ago I spent a Sunday afternoon at a session in a pub where there were a number of Irish punters.

One of these aked for a couple of Irish songs which were sung by two of the guys who happened to know them.

He then asked for Danny Boy, and, as I was the only one present who would admit to knowing it, well you can guess the rest.

The odd thing is that the word seems to have spread far beyond the people present that day, because I have been getting an average of one request a month for that one ever since.

As I always do any requests that don't end with the word "off", I've become quite familiar with it, and I must say I do enjoy singing it.

Don T.

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: jacqui.c
Date: 12 Mar 06 - 09:52 PM

Beautiful song Don - I love that one.

Subject: RE: 'It's our right to like...'
From: Severn
Date: 12 Mar 06 - 10:07 PM

Then don't be put off by any drunken patrons asking for your "Derry Air" (The alternate title to that tune).

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: GUEST,Joe_F
Date: 12 Mar 06 - 10:22 PM

Hymns. Stephen Foster.

--- Joe Fineman    [e-mail]

||: A potato without pepper is like a kiss without a moustache. :||

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: Peace
Date: 12 Mar 06 - 10:22 PM

It's also alright to like folk music (what ever that means), which I do.

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: LilyFestre
Date: 12 Mar 06 - 11:50 PM

I like 80's pop music!
I like metal!
I like classic rock!
I like bluegrass!
I like jazz!
I like the blues!
I like classical!
I like showtunes!!!

There, I said it, I LIKE SHOWTUNES! *GRIN*

Michelle

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 04:23 AM

"Let's face it: folk music (unless it's pop music with banjos or whistles) is unpopular."

I don't think folk music is unpopular. The trouble with folk music is that it can't be used to make money. The way money changes hands in the music world is through copyright, and when a song's old enough, it can't be copyrighted. Sure, people talk about copyrighting their arrangement, but that doesn't really mean much.

For example, we have a woman who plays brilliant folk guitar with us. When she's really got a song down, she does so many licks, runs, and rests that she couldn't possibly write down the arrangement. And she probably never does a song the same way twice. So how does anybody police copyright of something like that?

The result is that musicians, record companies and MTV makers can't recoup their production expenses with traditional music. That leaves the general public, especially the young general public, to assume that there must be something wrong with it.
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I believe that it's all right for a person to like what they like, but I draw the line at Gene Autry. :)

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: Purple Foxx
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 04:34 AM

Leeneia's assessment is completely right.
Enjoyable as some of them are a top ten songette exists primarily as a commodity.
Folk is not popular in the sense that transnational corporations are making large amount of money by commercially exploiting it.
However, if we define popularity by the length of time for which something endures within the public culture, then surely a strong argument could be made for Folk as the most popular of all musical forms?

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 11:32 AM

Probably. It may be tied for time-length with Gregorian chant, but surely it's going to pull ahead in the next century or two.

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: Purple Foxx
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 11:36 AM

Gregorian chant is very difficult to dance to.

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 12:43 PM

Holy shit! I really like everybody who's been named already, plus My secret love - Frank Ifield.
There I feel better now. it's out in the open.

Seamus

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 01:23 PM

I'm waiting for someone to come out with a confession about liking something modern - Doug saying "I love rap" for example...

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: fat B****rd
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 01:52 PM

Yo !! Mc Grath. I like rap.

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: fat B****rd
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 02:02 PM

LilyFestre. If by SHOWTUNES you mean songs from musicals, Porter, Gershwin and co. are fine by me.

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 06:38 PM

Strongly agree Fat B, but I also enjoy Lionel Bart and (dare I say it) Andrew Lloyd Webber.

There! I said it.

Don T.

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: Peace
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 06:52 PM

OK, here's the scene. Monks sworn to silence. The only time they say anything is at vespers where in response to the abbot's "I wish you a good morning" they sing, "I wish you a good morning." After 27 years, one of the monks decided to throw a twist into things. After the abbot's "I wish you a good morning" he alone of 42 monks replied, "I wish you a good evening."

Ya coulda heard a pin drop. The abbot then said--are ya ready for this? are ya?






































"Someone chanted evening . . . ."

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: Bert
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 07:26 PM

PEACE!!!    GO HOME!

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 07:48 PM

Gene Autry. I used to love Gene Autry.

Barney the Bashful Bullfrog, Ghost Riders in the Sky, and he had a good hat.

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: Snuffy
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 07:50 PM

Cole Porter and Mozart and the Beatles are Ok as far as they go, but what folk acts are you ashamed to confess to liking?

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: Purple Foxx
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 02:34 AM

The Seekers

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: kendall
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 07:23 AM

I'm not ashamed of anything I sing. Well, perhaps one..."Too Many Parties", after Sinsull got through with it at the Getaway.

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 12:45 PM

Of course the other side of this is "It's all right not to like". For example a columnist in the Guardian and Observer recently announced, slightly nervously, that he didn't like Wallace and Gromit. Rapidly qualifying that by saying he wasn't criticising other people for liking it, just announcing a personal preferance. (That's what I mean by "slightly nervously".)

Basic groundrule for that wouild be that the item involved would have to be something that is generally felt to be pretty good.

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: fat B****rd
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 03:49 PM

Is this the start of a connected thread drift or can we say what "It's alright not like" here ?

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: Snuffy
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 06:30 PM

It's all right not to like thread drift

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: Bert
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 07:28 PM

...but what folk acts are you ashamed to confess to liking?... Nana Mouskouri

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: Peace
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 10:01 PM

...but what folk acts are you ashamed to confess to liking?...

The Beatles
The Stones
Bachman Turner Overdrive
The Eagles
The Stampeders
The Moody Blues

They ain't folk yet, but they will be when all the old "that ain't folk music" people die off.

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: GUEST,DB
Date: 16 Mar 06 - 04:17 AM

Of course it's all right to like anything that you happen to like. What really gets my goat is people who insist that anything that they happen to like is 'folk music'! Are you listening 'Peace'?

Signed:

A "that ain't folk music" person who's not dead yet!!!

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: Purple Foxx
Date: 18 Mar 06 - 04:26 AM

Yesterday Evening I was taken (somewhat reluctantly) to see the stage version of "Saturday Night Fever"
I was 15 when the movie came out & its all-pervasive soundtrack epitomised everything I despised in popular music at that time.
What I heard last night was a colllection of songs which were very well crafted & had ,without exception, endured in the public consciousness for far longer than most of the music I favoured in 1977.
Perhaps we all find ourselves more receptive to other people's ideas on "Good Music" as we mature emotionally & culturally?

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: Janice in NJ
Date: 18 Mar 06 - 08:36 AM

It's all right to like Liberace, Kate Smith, and Sophie Tucker.

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 18 Mar 06 - 07:13 PM

It's all right to like them, but do you like them?

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: Genie
Date: 18 Mar 06 - 07:51 PM

Jaqui said, "... Kendall has much narrower musical tastes than I and I do enjoy, on occasion, getting together with SINSULL and doing a bit of doowap, just to aggravate him."

Good on ya, jacqui! I know Kendall says he's more tolerant than that ;) but I still love the way you think! LOL

Well, it seems at least one of two of you also like most of the people and stuff on my list, but here are some that I love but won't usually volunteer that info in some settings (such as a "folk music song circle):

Air Supply
Clay Aiken
Aerosmith
MacNamara's Band, The Unicorn, Danny Boy, and The Wild Rover
Sons Of The Pioneers
Bryan Setzer
Snoop Dogg, Chingy, Will Smith, and Blackeyed Peas
a lot of Andrew Lloyd-Weber and Rodgers & Hammerstein
Harry Connick, Jr.
Alan Jackson
Irving Berlin songs
Johnny Mercer lyrics
Jazz era standards (Harold Arlen, Gershwins, Hoagy Carmichael, Gus Kahn, Duke Ellington)
Edith Piaf
Roy Orbison
doo-wop
reggae
Garth Brooks
Tennessee Ernie Ford
Neil Diamond
Cyndi Lauper

But I'm seldom shy about admitting I like:
Spike Jones
Sons Of The Pioneers
Dire Straits/Mark Knopfler
Eva Cassidy
Jethro Tull
Bob Seger
Elvis
The Eagles
Miles Davis
Patsy Cline

I guess actually I'm never really "ashamed" to admit to liking something, and there's very little besides muzak that i hate as a category.   It's more a matter of having people sometimes stare blankly when you bring up an artist or song or genre that's not their "cup o' tea." :-D

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: SINSULL
Date: 18 Mar 06 - 07:57 PM

About two weeks ago, Jacqui and I were harmonizing (?!#*) to the Everly Bros.' Songs Our Daddy Taught Us"> Kendall asked me to leave. sigh.

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: Purple Foxx
Date: 19 Mar 06 - 02:12 AM

Genie, your liking for Irving Berlin,Jazz era standards,Edith Piaf,Roy Orbison,Doo wop & Reggae is not something you should be apologising for,but rather people who don't like them should apologise to you.

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: Genie
Date: 19 Mar 06 - 02:55 AM

Pixie, I would never apologize for liking jazz, blues, or show tunes, especially the greats in those genres.

It's more the case that in some groups of people are connected by sharing appreciation for a particular genre such as "bluegrass," or "oldtimey," or "folk music" or whatever and in that setting people may not be interested in doing or discussing other genres.

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: Genie
Date: 19 Mar 06 - 02:58 AM

Er... excuse me, Purple Fox, I must have just glanced at your name and noticed the P and the x and morphed it into "Pixie."
(Dyslexic much, Genie?) ;)

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: Purple Foxx
Date: 19 Mar 06 - 03:00 AM

'S,ok Genie.I can assure you I've been called worse things.;)

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 19 Mar 06 - 03:59 PM

I see "Sons of the Pioneers" crop up in both Genie's lists...

But I was astonished to see Edith Piaf as turning up as someone anyone might be embarrassed to admit liking. I suppose admitted to liking someone so French might be frowned on in some circles in the USA in these days of "freedom fries". In which case, no doubt, the same would apply to the incomparable Georges Brassens.

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: open mike
Date: 20 Mar 06 - 05:43 PM

a fiddler friend and i agree
that we admit to watching
RFD t.v. (http://www.rfd-tv.com/)
(on DIRECTV RFD-TV is located on channel 379)
(on Dish Network RFD-TV is located on channel 9409)

when the Big Joe Polka Show is on!!
and Porter Wagoner..
which i think is something that Willie Nelson
has helped to preserve by purchasing the series
or something...

and Reno's Old Time Music Festival
and some of the other home-grown music presentations
found on that network...sort of like lawrence welk..
only funkier..

well, the polkas are fun and it is good to see groups
of young people playing this style of music and people
dancing to it, too.

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: jojofolkagogo
Date: 21 Mar 06 - 01:47 PM

What a GREAT THREAD Kevin !!! Nice One . . .

I wholeheartedly agree with Don Wysiwyg Thompson (Hello Don was nice to see you at Fabclub Sun) ...

Like what you will, what's it gotta do with anyone else anyway ???

I like to say that I like . . . .   Tony Blackburn's songs !!!

No really, I DO

Jo Jo
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Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: Purple Foxx
Date: 21 Mar 06 - 03:25 PM

After Radio 1 took over from pirate Radio in the U.K.,there was a significant downturn in the amount of Black Music getting national mainstream airtime.
The one significant exception to this was The Tony Blackburn Show.
He was an unapologetic Soul fan at a time when psychedelia was de rigeur.
I am almost certain his show would have been the first place I ever heard The Chi-Lites.
That fact in itself validates his entire career as far as I am concerned.

Subject: RE: 'It's all right to like...'
From: Bert
Date: 21 Mar 06 - 04:10 PM

As long as you don't make the actual post Leadfingers!