BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?

Subject: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: gnu
Date: 09 Apr 06 - 05:09 PM

What is the one true joy of your life? All of my buddies tell me it is their children.

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: Once Famous
Date: 09 Apr 06 - 05:49 PM

If you only have one true joy in life, you are really limiting yourself.

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: mack/misophist
Date: 09 Apr 06 - 06:09 PM

It varies. Not children. Can't stand them til they're old enough to argue philosophy with.

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Apr 06 - 06:14 PM

It varies at different times. Being among people I love and trust, and having some good activities to focus on...that certainly can do it.

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: GUEST,Janie
Date: 09 Apr 06 - 06:29 PM

I agree with Little Hawk. There isn't just ONE thing, and nothing is constantly fulfilling. Having said that, there are certainly times when I witness something or some development or attribute in my child that brings a sense of fulfillment. Digging in the dirt, watching plants thrive, harvesting vegetables can do that. Watching a client discover their own strengths and learn the skills and strategies they need to have more satisfying lives and relationships can be extremely satisfying. Being in good voice and singing by myself in the moonlight, lazing on the beach in the middle of my relaxed, extended family, or sitting in the woods under a big tree in the soft spring light filtered through the emerging canapy, all these things can lead to a strong sense of being very much in the moment and at peace.

Janie

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: goodbar
Date: 09 Apr 06 - 06:29 PM

driving around with friends.

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: bobad
Date: 09 Apr 06 - 06:34 PM

Getting up in the morning and going to bed at night and in between doing the things I want to do.

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: *daylia*
Date: 09 Apr 06 - 06:46 PM

My thoughts make me happy.

Or not.

Fulfilled? Seeing that my influence has been meaningful and beneficial, for one. But first, I do have to make that so ...

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 09 Apr 06 - 07:41 PM

A lotta things...

#1: Solvin' a tough case, puttin' the cuffs on the bad guys, and gettin' paid by the grateful clients!

#2: A good stiff drink and a high quality cigar.

#3: Good company, along with #2, and talkin' shop.

#4: A good lookin' dame with really looooong legs!

#5: The respect of my peers.

#6: A good meal in a greasy spoon.

#7: Dancin' with my sweetie of the hour.

#6: Oilin' my tommy gun.

#7: Playin' practical jokes on people and gorillas.

#8: Makin' a fool out of a gorilla for the 2nd time. (Mother Nature did it the first time!)

Any and all of those. I admit that #7 and #8 are sorta the same thing.

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: Bobert
Date: 09 Apr 06 - 07:45 PM

The P-Vine and well played performance...

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: CarolC
Date: 09 Apr 06 - 08:02 PM

I would be placing an unfair burden on my loved ones if I depended on them for my happiness and fulfillment. Although my son and my husband are the greatest sources of many good things in my life, including joy.

But the little things are important, too. Today, the beautiful weather and the sounds of nature all around me while I worked outside, and the satisfaction of getting getting the job done were a part of what made this day a good one for me overall.

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 09 Apr 06 - 08:22 PM

Feeling that I've brought some joy to someone else's life, no matter how momentary it might be.

Jerry

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 09 Apr 06 - 08:33 PM

To Joeclones

Please delete.

"Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: Martin Gibson - PM
Date: 09 Apr 06 - 05:49 PM

If you only have one true joy in life, you are really limiting yourself. "

Nothing but insult and provocation.

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: Bill D
Date: 09 Apr 06 - 08:33 PM

yep, Jerry...that's a big one!

and for me, a personal one is coaxing a piece of scrap wood to be something it hadn't planned on, and having other people tell me they approve...*smile*

also, making a joke or pun that get you THAT look...and knowing it will be retold!

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 09 Apr 06 - 10:48 PM

Gee, Jack: Not to be caught agreeing with Martin or nuthin' but I think he's absolutely right... and I don't find it insulting. There is certainly more than one thing in my life that I find fulfilling, or that makes me "happy." I suspect that's the case with you too, Jack. I'm with Bill, too. I love working with wood, although I haven't done much in recent years, other than a little carpentry. I love the feel of wood, and responding to the grain. I get great fulfillment in carving wood, making small, playful sculptures or musical instruments. Playing instruments certainly is fulfilling, as is singing with others. I find a lot of happiness on the Cat (along with the occasional frustration and irritation that we all feel.) And that's just for starters. I bet you could come up with a pretty good list yourself, Jack.

All the best..

Jerry

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: number 6
Date: 09 Apr 06 - 10:55 PM

Life itself.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: Once Famous
Date: 09 Apr 06 - 11:35 PM

Well, maybe he couldn't, Jerry. That would take too much thinking.

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Apr 06 - 11:38 PM

Chongo's list is the most comprehensive one yet. He always was a deep thinker.

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: number 6
Date: 09 Apr 06 - 11:40 PM

"If you only have one true joy in life, you are really limiting yourself. "

What is wrong with that statement?

I'm sure if anyone of us was told we had 24hrs of life left ... it would be more than the 'one joy' we would wish for.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: Once Famous
Date: 09 Apr 06 - 11:41 PM

Thanks, Jerry. To have just one passion in life is truly limiting. Family, friends, music, work, music, a good hobby, other creative outlets..............

I wonder why Jack finds that insulting and provoking? I do have a good feeling why, though.

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: number 6
Date: 09 Apr 06 - 11:44 PM

Exactly Martin.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 01:32 AM

Martin Gibson Fish bait 9 Apr 2006 11:38 PM   
   

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Jerry Rasmussen said on the happiness thread:

"Gee, Jack: Not to be caught agreeing with Martin or nuthin' but I think he's absolutely right... and I don't find it insulting"

Jerry is another good friend here, Jack. Deal with it.

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 01:39 AM

Subject: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: gnu - PM
Date: 09 Apr 06 - 05:09 PM

What is the one true joy of your life? All of my buddies tell me it is their children.


Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: Martin Gibson - PM
Date: 09 Apr 06 - 05:49 PM

If you only have one true joy in life, you are really limiting yourself.

WHAT IS THE POINT OF HIS POST? ITS A CRITICSM OF GNU'S POST. IS THIS A MAN EXPRESSING HIS HEARTFELT OPINION? OR TRYING TO STIR UP ACRIMONY AT EVERY TURN. OF COURSE THE ANSWER IS NEITHER. THE ANSWER IS THAT THIS IS NOT A MAN.

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 01:53 AM

Martin sent me this as a "Personal Message"


" From Title Date Archive Delete
Martin Gibson fictional 9 Apr 2006 10:14 PM   
   

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Jack Off,

I am not that fictional. Some people really know who I am. You see them agreeing with and supporting me here all of the time.

They will protect my identity while I just keep telling pricks like you to eat shit and die. "

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 04:31 AM

Jack, I uderstand that Martin may have upset or hurt you at some time. But we really do try and start anew with each thread here. And his comment about needing more than one thing in life wasn't hurtful, or demeaning to anyone.

let's try and keep this thread a happy ship, Jack.

as to the thread, somehow I am irresistably reminded of the old song; it's illegal , it's immoral or it makes you fat.

Occasionally I find a book, usually a crime novel that really ignites my interest, really entertains me, and I dread finishing it, because I know the pleasure will be over.

I used to like entertaining old folks. I was good at it. but I'm not well enough to do it any more. this other stuff in folk clubs is okay - but I miss the almost spiritual aspect of giving people music, people for whom there are no radio stations and as a consequence of them having no financial clout in our community, they have not anybody else really trying to make contact and remind them about life.

I used to love drinking with friends, but enjoyment in that, petered out. I haven't touched the stuff for 3 years now. To tell you the truth, that's my most fulfilling thing....being sober. Knowing that if I get mood swings, its nothing to do with that shit.

all the best
to all

al

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 06:47 AM

What makes me happy and fulfilled. At this moment seeing the harmonious banter on this thread! LOL.
Best wishes, Mike.

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: MBSLynne
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 07:19 AM

For goodness sake Jack, go away. I came onto this thread thinking it would be a good one....not much cause for unpleasantness. Everything was fine until I started reading your posts. What is WRONG with you? I agree entirely with Martin...it's what I was thinking of saying myself, or something like. A totally uncalled for personal attack as far as I can see, and if any posts should be deleted it's yours. Then perhaps we can get back to what started as a rather pleasant thread. I was going to post my happinesses, but I won't bother now. One BIG annoyance however, is people who muck up perfectly good threads

Love Lynne

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: greg stephens
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 07:39 AM

And there I was thinking that Martin Gibson is a bit of a nuisance sometimes.He's seems a bit of a sweetie really compared with some.

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: Once Famous
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 07:51 AM

Can anyone seriously take a Mudcatter who exposes someone's PMs?

Can anyone trust such a person?

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: Once Famous
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 07:59 AM

greg Stephens, thanks.

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 08:03 AM

Getting back to the topic at hand..

I feel a distinction between "happy" and "joyful." "Happy is like chinese food... wonderful for the moment, but doesn't last long enough. Ephemeral. Now, Joyfulness... that's another deal entirely. Think of the use of the words. You can get a Happy
Meal at McDonald's. Then think of The Ode To Joy. "Fulfilled" is on a different plane, too. Some things make me happy AND joyful and are fulfilling. Most likely, it involves someone else's joy and happiness as well.

Bringing music to old folks and the sick and shut-in is all three, for me.

Jerry

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: Kweku
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 08:04 AM

MG-NEVER


lets stick to the thread,pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee!

I most fulfilled when i am all alone by the sea or by a stream,meditating.

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 08:18 AM

You're right there too, for me, Quarcoo: Meditation and spiritual reflection are at the center of joy and fulfillment for me. In spiritual reflection, I am not "alone," though.

Jerry

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 08:23 AM

I agree with Martin on the exposure of PMs. They are totally personal messages between two people and not for the forum. No Martin, I would not trust this person.
Best wishes, Mike.

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 08:49 AM

Yeah, Georgian: The one automatic deletion of posts that everyone shouldn't have a problem with is one that reveals a PM. They're called Private Messages for a reason.

Jerry

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: Purple Foxx
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 08:51 AM

The list of things that make me happy/fulfilled would simply take too much time to list.
This is,of course,pretty much a restatement of what Martin said in his first (valid) post.

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 09:31 AM

Strangely enough I was thinking some of the things mentioned would make me very unhappy.

Meditation - I don't like the sound of that at all. I think I would get depressed very quickly and start thinking about how unfulfilled I was, generally what a fuck up I've made of life.

No.......lights, camera, action......every time.

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 02:41 PM

My Writing, my music, my home, most of all my wife. I don't mean to place a burden on her. But it is the truth.

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: CarolC
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 03:08 PM

You don't place a burden on me!

You sweety!

;-*

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 03:29 PM

Knowing she loves me. Everything else pales in comparison

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: bobad
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 04:43 PM

Carol and Jack - you seem to be very much in love - that is a lovely thing to behold

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 05:21 PM

Thanks Bo

We're Still newlyweds. It'll only be four years in October.

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: bobad
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 05:22 PM

May you always remain newlyweds in spirit.

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: harmony
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 05:39 PM

All of the above...which makes me the most interesting person on here....tee hee

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: CarolC
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 09:53 PM

(thanks, bobad)

;-)

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: Scoville
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 11:23 PM

Any tiny iota of progress when I practice music (I'm gonna learn to fiddle if it kills me).

Square dancing until I know I won't be able to move the next day.

I used to get a lot of satisfaction out of my job back when I was a vet tech. It's a grunt job and it pays accordingly, but there were a lot of things that, in retrospect, I can't believe I helped pull off. A lot of little animals that are still alive. I work in a library now and it pays better, has benefits, has opportunities, but it doesn't give you the same feeling that you get when you find a two-day-old kitten on the doorstep and hand-raise the little bugger until you can adopt him out.

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: GUEST,Ron Davies
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 11:50 PM

" Martin": 10 April 7:51 AM:      "Can anyone trust such a person?" (who makes a PM public)

Pobre cito. You're breaking my heart.

I disagree on Private Messages. Obviously they were set up for one on one communication, usually, I would guess, to convey information the group would have no interest in. If, however, "Martin" did send the PM to Jack that Jack cited, it was obviously intended to hurt.

There is no sanctity in a PM intended to hurt the recipient. And the sender of such a PM should be prepared to have it made public.

Simple solution: don't send PM's intended to hurt.

But if you do, spare us the hypocritical whining when they are made public.

I would never reveal the content of a PM from a Mudcat friend. However, if somebody is attacked, either in a thread or a PM, it's up to that individual to respond---or not. Either by PM or publicly.   

If the PM is revealed and the group has no interest, there's another simple solution for the group----ignore it.

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: GUEST,Mrr at work
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 09:48 AM

I have to admit that getting an unsolicited compliment from my troubled son is incredibly fulfilling.

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 05:35 PM

GUEST Ron Davies. So you believe that in 'private' conversation, any one person who is abused should go tell another. It happens in peoples personal and business lives. We all choose how to react to abuse but I don't believe we should go crying to others unless there is a law being broken or we are too weak ourselves and need to whinge to someone to get protection or help. If you decide as a result of this to PM me with some abuse...go ahead but I would would certainly not stoop to the level of divulging your private insults to me.
It is part of the 'Martin Gibson' character to be insulting. If you don't like it..."Get over it or get out of the kitchen" I say.
Best wishes, Mike.

Subject: RE: BS: What makes you happy? Fulfilled?
From: GUEST,Martin gibson not logged in.
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 05:43 PM

That's right G-silver. And you are right, it is only just part of the whole picture.

Ron doesn't have the balls or the skin to deal with it. Obviously either does Jack. whining is a part of their nature.

ron, you snivel and hurt here all the time in the wide open and so does Jack and so do I and so do others.

Revealing private PMs not for the forum is FORUM ABUSE, something which Jack did and you support, ronnie baby ol' pal, ol' girlieman.

I don't care if I break your heart, Ron Davies. But it is just so easy to bust your balls.