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Bobert 12 Apr 06 - 08:18 AM
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Alba 12 Apr 06 - 09:24 AM
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The Fooles Troupe 12 Apr 06 - 09:53 AM
GUEST 12 Apr 06 - 10:06 AM
GUEST,M.Ted 12 Apr 06 - 10:14 AM
number 6 12 Apr 06 - 10:25 AM
Ebbie 12 Apr 06 - 10:42 AM
number 6 12 Apr 06 - 10:49 AM
number 6 12 Apr 06 - 10:58 AM
GUEST,G 12 Apr 06 - 11:13 AM
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GUEST,TIA 12 Apr 06 - 11:21 AM
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GUEST,G 12 Apr 06 - 11:26 AM
Arne 12 Apr 06 - 11:26 AM
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Bobert 12 Apr 06 - 11:37 AM
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Ebbie 12 Apr 06 - 11:53 AM
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Subject: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: Bobert
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 08:18 AM

Well, well, well... When it rains, it pours...

Seemed by now that everyone knows that those scarey "biolab trailers" that Bush told us about in the mad-dash-to-attack-Iraq turned out to be nothing at all... Right???

Problem is that 2 days after a scret Pentagon mission report (May 27, 2003) revealed that the the trailers were *not* biolabs Bush made the statement on Mat 29th in regards to them, "We have found the weapons of mass destruction."

Hmmmmmm? And to think that folks just don't believe him anymore??? How can this be???

(Source: Today's Washigton Post, "Lacking Biolabs, Trailers Carried Case for War" by Joby Warrick)


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 08:21 AM

Uh-oh, countdown to voluminous post in response (with lots of acronyms and hair-splitting over timing) begins .....now.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: Alba
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 09:24 AM

If you use a really good Hair Conditioner it tends to reduce the tendency for Spilt Ends.
I favor Hot Oil Treatment Products myself:)

As for yet ANOTHER Lie from the Gob of the Liar?
I think it would be more unusual if we had a TRUTH to report from the mouth of the Gobshite.

Nice day here, sun is shining, birds singing, wood work projects waiting so y'all have a good day.
J


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: Amos
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 09:35 AM

The man is a weasel and a manipulator, a liar and a dunce. All excellent qualifications for being run out of town.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 09:53 AM

"for being run out of town. "

I now have a vision of a guy with a big Texan hat yelling 'Ye-hah!' while riding the nuke down out of the plane..


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 10:06 AM

Then why is he not being run out of town?


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: GUEST,M.Ted
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 10:14 AM

I wish that you hadn't said that, Foolestroupe--I have noticed that cinematic social satires of the 60's have had a nasty tendency to presage actually events--witness the parallels between Lindsay Anderson's "If..."

Recent stories that Bush plans to nuke Iran, because he believes he is the only president past or future with the "guts to do what has to be done"--So break out the Vera Lynn records, and get ready for that cloud of radioactive fallout to sweep down under--


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: number 6
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 10:25 AM

Good question Guest ... "why isn't he run out of town"

Because the U.S. middle class is comfortable to sit and just complain about it ... It's sad really, when down in Maine this weekend I noticed in the frontpage of the local Calais newspaper of a local 21 yr. old being another casualty of the war. Another in the 2300 or so to date.

If his death is just another one that will pass on and on without any serious protests it is all in vain ... If I was an American I bet your booty I would be joining some movement that protests the victims of the Bush's tagic war over in Iraq ... what has to be done is some agressive show of protest over this war ... and no, saying it would be uselss cause the media will not cover it is just a cop out ... look what is happening with the immigration marches, they are relentless and they are making an impact in to the U.S. government ... mybe these people should be given amnesty, as their passion and display of democracy shows they might certainly deserve it over the majority of Americans who sit and let the son's and daughters of their country get wasted away and forgotton about due to such a tragic mistake such as Bush's war in Iraq.

sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: Ebbie
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 10:42 AM

Number sIx, we are protesting, but as for 'running him out of town on a rail', we don't have a mechanism in place for truncating a president's tenure. A president could resign as Richard Nixon did but he did it to avoid impending impeachment and conviction.

We don't have such an option as a vote of confidence. The UK does. But I notice that Blair is still there.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: number 6
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 10:49 AM

From what I see there is no real display of protest. In fact very little at all ... there are polls but no show of force ... no indication that from the general populace that questions the war, that shows there is concern about the victims of this war. I do realize you can't 'run him out of town' but you can show the government of your country the the victims of this war intolerable ... and maybe, just maybe there will be a recourse on the direction of war that your government is taking you. If it doesn't work, then your concience can let you know you really did try.

sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: number 6
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 10:58 AM

Ebbie ... there are mid-term elections coming up in your country in November ... I do think an aggressive, well led protest movement would make some considerable difference, even if it doesn't kick him out of the highest office ... anyway, it's your country, your children, your president's war ... it's all up to you. Just sitting an complaining does nothing, and believe me Bush and his boys take notice and will just continue in the same direction their going.

sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: GUEST,G
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 11:13 AM

6, most of the middle class IS NOT complaining. Where did you hear otherwise. (And don't suggest "polls", not acurate)

I get through a lot of the midwest every month, many businesses. and I don't hear that. I do hear complaints about some of the methodology employed in the war - not agressive enough - but everyone seems to be pleased by the economy. Whatever you think about the war in Iraq, the fatalties have yet to reach the number from the Trade Towers. Do you remember that hit?

With my personal observations, I look for the Republicans to gain this November. The Dems have nothing to offer in a positive vein.

Bobert, reread the article and you will see that that report was completed AFTER the fall of Baghdad. GWB had to rely on very bad intelligence left behind after the department was mangled in the 90's.

And I am wondering why you did not comment on the article right beside the one you chose that said the majority of the new medicare prescription plan subscribers were please and saving money.

Can someone say "malcontent"?


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: number 6
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 11:19 AM

OK ... I maynot or may be wrong in saying the majority of the middle-class ... regarding polls to a degree they can be misleading, and because of that, is why I stated they are not a way of showing protest ... but I'm sure there are sufficint numbers of the U.S.populace who now do not support the war ... a number enough who if they where organized and were more visible publicly (marches, more exposure on in the media) they could make a difference to the direction where Bush and the boys are heading.

And I again I do not accept the notion the media whould not take notice .. as in my first post to this thread.

sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 11:21 AM

"why isn't he run out of town?"

Because roughly 40% of US citizens would support him if he loaded a truck full of puppies with a pitchfork.

(stole that line from somebody, but it is apt as hell)

And why the support? Because he's aginst them commie librul pinko fags. He has trashed every "conservative" principle the 40 percenters used to stand for. But, we (USA) are now every bit as tribal as Waziristan. Supporting your guy is more important than the truth or any other principle. And NEVER admit you might have been wrong. That's a sign of weakness.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: number 6
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 11:25 AM

"Because roughly 40% of US citizens would support him if he loaded a truck full of puppies with a pitchfork."

Jeeeeeezuz .... that is horrible, but unfortuanetly true ... but if that is 40% .... where is the 60%, and why don't they make a passionate stand .... even more reason with that statement.

sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: GUEST,G
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 11:26 AM

When did I say I voted for him?
Don't get stuff in a wad. I am simply relaying what I hear directly from middle class types in my ungodly amount of traveling every month.
(Not complaining, however, it has been lucrative)


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: Arne
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 11:26 AM

"Guest G":

Whatever you think about the war in Iraq, the fatalties have yet to reach the number from the Trade Towers. Do you remember that hit?

Coming soon. What are you gonna do when they do? Have a party?

*sheesh*

3000 dead "changed history", according to the piss-my-pants WATBs, but 3000 dead troops aren't even worth showing when they return home in body bags and steel coffins in the dead of the night (not to mention the 20K or so horribly maimed and disabled troops). And all for nothing. Or even less than nothing, a spectacular failure and a horrific waste.

But "Guest G": I have news for you. The American public is slowly (damn slowly) but inexorably turning from the maladministration and its politics (not to mention incompetence). Just check the polls. And keep whistling.

Cheers,


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: number 6
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 11:29 AM

You need more than the polls Arne.

The casualties are a tragedy ... that's why it's even getting to be uncomfortable listening to the Bush jokes.

sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: Bobert
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 11:37 AM

Yeah, GUEST G, I read that this LIE came after the fall of Baghdad... What is your point???

Seems to me that seeing as the LIES were getting more evident by the day that by July of 2003 that Bush wouild have learnt up his lesson and had his fill of LIEING???

But not this guy which brings up an important question... Is George Bush a pathological LIAR, 'er what???


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: GUEST,G
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 11:38 AM

Well, I am glad to hear you are still aware. No, no party, and I have attended two funerals as a result of this war. I am still astounded at the.....I don't really know how to say this..........
The families left behind who were so positive about what caused their sorrow.

Arne, my travels tell me you are incorrect on the feelings of the general public. Polls basically suck - they can be guided any way you want them to go, be it the left or the right.

Look at history 5 - 10 years from now. Your ideas of incompetence and 'maladminisration' are yours and formed by what you chose to read and believe. It would appear that for everyone like you, there are 1.2 people minimum who think the opposite. No one right now can say that they are correct. It is a belief system until it is over and the final results are tallied. The same as with Viet Nam although I myself believe this one will turn out to be better supported. I will admit that it wouldn't take much in comparison to 'Nam.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: number 6
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 11:52 AM

You hit the button right there Guset,G ... the families, the mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers ... left behind with their sorrow. That's what I saw in the pciture on that paper in maine. If my son was him, I'd certainly say he was sacrificed for a purpose ... How could I not ... but in reality I feel in how vain it really is. That is the tragedy.

But for those Americans who complain, who joke about Bush ... get off your ass and do something about it.

Polls ... Reagan, Clinton, and Bush sr. have all scored lower in the polls.

sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: Ebbie
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 11:53 AM

Say that Joe Shmoe robbed my house. I know it was him. I didn't see him but the neighbors told me that it was he.

The problem is that I've always kind of liked old Joe and I don't want to make an enemy of him. He is a big strong man and I've been told that he has a bad temper. Besides there've been other people in the past who have hauled him off to court. Ended up costing them more than it was worth.

At the same time, I'm mad as hell, and I don't want to just drop the matter. So I'll tell you what I'm going to do: Across town is a family that I've had bad experiences with before. They're just bad people, from the old man to his sons and back. In my opinion it is just a happenstance that it wasn't they who robbed me. It would be just like them and in my opinion they would do it in a heartbeat. For all I know they plan to do it as soon as I get some valuables accumulated again.

So I'm going after them. Plenty of people will thank me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: Bill D
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 12:01 PM

his approval rating is 36%...SOME of us are paying attention!

It's one thing to note lapses, mis-statements, error laden decisions and obnoxious behavior....it's quite another to draft articles of impeachment, stop almost all gov't business while we conduct a long trial in the Senate with evidence which is often ambiguous..("hey, I 'thought' Iraq had WMDs") and see if we can get enough votes to toss him out on his ear and.............put Dick Cheney in his place!

We do not get the option of condemning this government and calling for new elections, as some countries do, so we have to collect the data, use it wisely in this Fall's elections, and hope that all this stupidity is still in the public's mind in 2008, when we lose him anyway. 'Maybe' we will elect a president and members of Congress with a better attitude......maybe.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: GUEST,G
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 12:40 PM

Bobert, Bobert, Bobert! GWB gave those reasons before the war started. It was found to be false after the fall of Baghdad.

Does that not mean something to you?

And, no comment on your saying how bad the prescription bebefits were before they took effect and now the vast majority are happy?

You are such a negative human being or maybe the essence of a malcontent.

I shall pretend you are nonexistant from now on and, please, don't consider that as a sign of victory on your part.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 01:20 PM

"GWB gave those reasons before the war started. It was found to be false after the fall of Baghdad"

Yes G, but you are (deliberately I suspect) missing the point.

Let's add to the timeline:
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GWB gave reasons

Baghdad fell

trailers found

intelligence determines they are not WMD-related

intelligence informs Whitehouse

Bush says they are WMD-related
Bush, Cheyney et. al. continue to claim they are WMD-related for over a year.
---------------------------------------------------------------------

See how the abbreviated account in your post conveniently stops before the lie begins?


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: GUEST,G
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 03:38 PM

No, no, and no - GWB said they were WMD related long before, not after. Reread, please.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: Barry Finn
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 03:46 PM

It was clear when they first showed those pictures of those trailers that they weren't a threat. They weren't large enough & as I spoke out about it back then, they looked exactly like the trailers my mother travels with, they were headed to the Bagdad International Folk Festival. The festival was later cancelled.
Barry


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: autolycus
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 04:01 PM

Is this all happening out of a vast amount of ignorance or apathy of the US electorate?

Ivor


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: GUEST,AR282
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 04:31 PM

And who was it in here that kept posting articles about those stupid trailers as proof that Bush was right? Why I believe that would be Teribus.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: Bobert
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 07:54 PM

Bottom line, Guest, G, it is you who needs to do the reread....

Bush made the statement about having found evidence of WMD's, ie. biolabs, 2 days ****AFTER**** a secret Pentagon mission report ordered by his administration is essences said that none existed???

'Bout as plain as that, G-zer... All yer protests and proclamations aren't going to make it any more complicated than what it is...

Now I know what the G is for... It's for "Geeeze Louise"...


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 09:54 PM

bobert who?


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: Bill D
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 10:41 PM

John Dean..(from Nixon days) explained it well tonight...*IF* Bush didn't get or read the report sent 2 days earlier, it is worse than if if he were merely trying to seed the excuse for the invasion...it shows a startling lack of competence by everyone concerned, from the Pentagon, where the report was sent, to the White House for not asking for the latest scoop before shooting their mouth(s) off.

There are now so many scandals and sizzling stories of stupidity floating around their heads that the fear is the public will OD on data and not be able to take it all in! Someone needs to cobble together a good summary of the various blunders, lies and spin doctoring and find a way to keep it visible.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: GUEST,AR282
Date: 13 Apr 06 - 09:11 PM

There's virtually a new scandal everyday. Now, you have these retired generals calling for Rumsfeld's resignation and that has to tell you a lot about what an incompetent bumbling dumbshit he is. I don't remember anything like this before.

Now Libby's lawyers are saying he is not accusing Bush of Plame's leak and I say, who cares? We already know Bush & Cheney leaked info from the National Intelligence Estimate, that it was done anonymously to reporters, that they let a reporter languish in prison for nearly 3 months before finally releasing her from her confidentiality. We know the intelligence leaked was extremely selective. It left out any assessments that were contrary to Bush's case--namely those assessments saying that Iraq trying to purchase yellowcake from Niger was extremely unlikely. Since the estimate was still classified, the public had no way of knowing about the assessments. That amounts to Bush once again deceiving the public, and changing facts to fit his conclusions. Since the leak was in response to Joe Wilson's critical article, the leak was done for no other reason than to try to discredit Joe Wilson. Certainly such tactics had nothing to do with national security which would never allow for the info to be leaked anonymously to reporters. The Plame incident hardly matters in the face of such damaging revelations.

Such revelations dovetail very well with both the revelation that Bush went public with the WMD trailers KNOWING they were false as well as the British intelligence report concerning Bush telling Blair in February 2003 that he was going to invade Iraq whether WMD were found or not. It also jibes well with the Downing Street Memo which stated Bush was bending facts to fit his invasion plans and that virtually nothing was being planned for what would happen after the invasion.

This memo, in turn, jibes with the situation we see in Iraq. Three wasted years for the U.S. which failed to foresee the insanity of invading with a tiny army, the lunacy of completely tearing down existing govt infrastructure and rebuild it from scratch with new people, the insurgency, the unchecked theft of billions by unscrupulous contractors, the prisoner abuse debacle, etc. but very, very productive years for al-Qaeda. This war has taught them a great deal and allowed them to recruit, train, expand and mature and grow more sophisticated and perfect their tactics, strategies and techniques. The war enabled Islamic terrorist groups to become well-funded by receiving huge ransoms in exchange for the return of kidnap victims.

Now the govt has discovered that sensitive military data in Afghanistan is available to anyone with the money from Arab vendors who receive a great deal of stolen goods from the US bases that are tended to by Afghans who steal what they can sell on the black market. Among the info available to commoner or terrorist who cares to purchase it for a pittance were American troops' names, what training they received, Army technical manuals, and even four generals' social security numbers!! Much of the info is smuggled out on memory sticks.

And we wonder why we can't quell the insurgency. Christ, we advertize our business all over the place and have no protocol for keeping sensitive information from getting into the populace.

Really, you can see why all those generals want Rumsfeld to resign. He has nothing in place to prevent leaking, theft, abuse, fraud, waste. While soldiers go without adequate armor, others are making fortunes selling military gear to outside buyers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: Bill D
Date: 13 Apr 06 - 09:21 PM

Very nice summary, AR282....it pretty much says it all. Now if we can just get VOTERS to read and comprehend something like that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: Cobble
Date: 13 Apr 06 - 09:36 PM

Whatever you think about the war in Iraq, the fatalties have yet to reach the number from the Trade Towers. Do you remember that hit?

US Troops British Troops innocent civilians is 10.000 nearer the mark, more I think, whats it like being a mindless shit. Two wrongs dont make a right, when its really an oil grab.

            Not guest but COBBLE


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: Teribus
Date: 13 Apr 06 - 10:07 PM

GUEST,AR282 - 12 Apr 06 - 04:31 PM

"And who was it in here that kept posting articles about those stupid trailers as proof that Bush was right? Why I believe that would be Teribus."

Substantiate that claim please AR282.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: Bobert
Date: 13 Apr 06 - 10:13 PM

Yo, Cobble, 'er is it COBBLE???

Pop Quiz Time...

How many Iragis were involved in 9/11?

A. 19

B. 18

C. 17

D. 16

E. 15

F. 14

G. 13

H. 12

I. 11

J. 10

K. 9

L. 8

M. 7

N. 6

O. 5

P. 4

Q. 3

R. 2

S. 1

T. 0

Pick one....


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: Arne
Date: 14 Apr 06 - 01:12 AM

"T" for "Teribus"!   ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 14 Apr 06 - 01:21 AM

Hey! No pickin' allowed in here! You wanna fight, you go outside!


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: Arne
Date: 14 Apr 06 - 01:32 AM

Guest,G sez:

Arne, my travels tell me you are incorrect on the feelings of the general public.

Guest,G: I'm afraid that my travels (and I'm premier on a couple different airlines) tell me that you are probably just as obtuse as to what people are saying as you are seemingly obtuse to exactly what a doofus (and a liar) the preznit is.

But I don't need to travel to know that: There's polls too. Lots of 'em. All kinds of question phrasing and methodology. Here and here. Read 'em 'n weep. Or whistle. As is your wont. What I will take serious offence to is if you read about the latest casualties in the 2300+ and mounting (five the other day, I hear), and then whistle.

Cheers,


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: John P
Date: 14 Apr 06 - 09:23 AM

Since the United States has now killed more civilians in Afghanistan and Iraq -- 3 to 30 times more, depending on the estimate you read -- than were killed in the 9/11 attacks, can we now declare ourselves to be a terrorist organization or a rogue state or an axis of evil and and start a preemptive war against ourselves to make sure we don't attack ourselves.

I agree that the people of the US might get rid of him faster if we were all in the streets everyday. I would also like to see the UN censuring the US. I would like to see NATO threatening us with retalitory strikes. I would like to see France and Germany declare war against the us. I would like to see Japan and China cut off all trade. Americans aren't the only ones who can work to stop this madness.

John Peekstok


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: GUEST,G
Date: 14 Apr 06 - 09:41 AM

Impressed not by your "premier on several airlines". I would rather take you at your word that you get out a lot. What surprises me is you still stress polls. I have found, as I stated elsewhere, that they are not very trustworthy, be they Dem or Repub, left leaning or right leaning organizations.

I am sticking with my belief system, And don't get obtuse yourself - I have been to a couple services and didn't whistle there.

How do we know what the ultimate outcome will be? How many years after Viet Nam did it take for us to realize what that was all about.

Your taking "serious offense" is simply a figment of your imagination, in my humble opinion. Or, your ability to discern such information from a few posts in a forum such as this would be overwhelming to me. However, I don't know of anyone that has this ability. Why don't we just stay with sharing our observations?


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 14 Apr 06 - 09:49 AM

Don't worry - on the news tonight here was the reporter in the Afghanistan market, buying second hand US military hard drives and USB thumb drives with secret military information still on them...

The US is quite capable of shooting itself in the foot... but unfortunately far less often effectively in the head...


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Apr 06 - 10:37 AM

Please tell us the meaning of 'estroupe' that you have added to your name.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: Bobert
Date: 14 Apr 06 - 10:52 AM

Cute, GUEST...

But foolestroupe ain't killed nobody today... Or even supported anyone who's killed folks today... And tomorrow...

And exactly why was this war started, anyway???


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: Arne
Date: 14 Apr 06 - 11:20 AM

Guest,G:

How do we know what the ultimate outcome will be? How many years after Viet Nam did it take for us to realize what that was all about.

Well, many years after Vietnam, pretty much everyone accepts that it was a mistake. I'd note that history has shown pretty well that the way to deal with Communists is to let them sink on their own, or just wither up and die.

What about Iraq? Well, just like Vietnam, many knew it was a mistake pretty much from the get-go, and said so. Some other folks learned from Vietnam, so the learning curve may be a bit (but not much) shorter nowadays; Dubya's poll numbers (and the three of the top four single words used to describe him, "incompetent", "liar", and "idiot") show that people are catching on. But we have the same small coterie of old fools that never learn, don't we?

Doesn't it bother you in the least that Dubya's the biggest liar around? Seems that just a short decade ago or so, such an outrage, even concerning a perfectly private matter of no concern except to the principals, was enought to get a preznit impeached -- in the minds of Republicans, that is -- if not set them frothing at the mouth. What happened, you think?

Cheers,


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Subject: RE: BS: Another Bush Lie Exposed Today...
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 14 Apr 06 - 09:08 PM

Oh, they're talking ABOUT me, not TO me... :-) - well long as they spell my name right...

"Please tell us the meaning of 'estroupe' that you have added to your name. "

If you weren't a GUEST, you could read my mudcat profile page with a link to The Fooles Troupe web site... :-)

But perhaps it would go over your head...

Good attempt at slapstick wit, GUEST, but only half assed... :-)


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