Song Survey

Subject: BS: Song Survey
From: Gudrun Miller
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 04:54 PM

As I'm one for asking these questions-- I would be interested to know what you think are the best: rebel song, best religious song and best love and the best song about everyday life ever penned. You can nominate 2 or 3 if you wish. I may be able to turn this in to something--assistance much appreciated--

Subject: RE: BS: Song Survey
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 05:02 PM

Are you sure you want this in the BS section?

I don't have a best Rebel song.

Best religious...

"Softly and Tenderly"

Best love song

"Time in a Bottle" or "I had to say I love you in a Song" by Jim Croce are among my favorites.

Songs about everyday life?

Chelsea Morning by Joni Mitchell maybe.

Subject: RE: BS: Song Survey
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 05:55 PM

Rebel Song: Yankee Doodle
Love Song: Today
Everyday Life: Big Bad Leroy Brown

...I may think of others...

Subject: RE: BS: Song Survey
From: Amos
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 06:00 PM

The best Rebel Song is Frank Warner's rendition of the Unreconstructed Rebel. Assuming you mean U.S. Confederacy class of rebel! :D

For a religious song, I would think Abide With Me has few competitors, but that's just my opinion.

Love songs are so many it is hard to say. I am presently fond of "Say You Will".

A

Subject: RE: Song Survey
From: Midchuck
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 07:59 PM

Best rebel song:

If you mean US Civil War, "The Last Letter Home."

If you mean Irish, either "Rising of the Moon" or "Roddy McCorley." Tie.

Best Religious Song would be "Amazing Grace" if it hadn't been so overdone that I'm plain sick and tired of it. "Lone Pilgrim," most likely.

Best Love Song: "First Time Ever I Saw Your Face." Nothing else even comes close, IMO.

Peter.

Subject: RE: Song Survey
From: GUEST,Joe_F
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 08:31 PM

Rebel song: "The Good Boy"

Religious song: "The Battle Hymn of the Republic"

Love song: "The Cuckoo"

Song of everyday life: "The Housewife's Lament"

--- Joe Fineman    [e-mail]

||: The best part of a parting guest is the last part out the door. :||

Subject: RE: Song Survey
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 09:07 PM

Can we add an anti-rebel category? US and/or Irish?

Religion? - maybe the Lykewake Dirge - perhaps Dives and Lazarus.

Love song? - maybe Love has no Pride, although I have to say there was a song written by a local teenager some years ago near here - an electric song, but it really said it all about young "love", called "I wanna get into your pants".

Everyday life? How about Poverty Knocks?

Subject: RE: Song Survey
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 11:10 PM

He said: "I really want to get into your pants."
She said: "No thanks. I already have an asshole in there."

Subject: RE: Song Survey
From: Jeremiah McCaw
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 12:46 AM

best rebel song:
"Rebels are we; born to be free,
Free as the fish in the sea"
- from Woody Allan's film 'Bananas'
(sorry, had a hard time taking this category seriously)

best religious song:
"Amazing Grace" (I don't care how semi-agnostic I may be; I'll sing this one anytime, anywhere)
"How Can I Keep from Singing?"

best love song:
"The First Time Ever" by Ewan MacColl
"Renaissance" by David Bradstreet (I do like Valdy's version)

best song about everyday life:
"Birches" by Bill Morrissey

Subject: RE: Song Survey
From:
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 02:03 AM

Big fan of Jim Croce for 'Time In A Bottle' and 'Have To Say I Love You In A Song', but my favourite is Joni Mitchell, especially for the greatest line I ever heard in music of any type, from 'Free Man In Paris': 'You know I'd go back there tomorrow, but for the work I've taken on/Stoking the star-making machinery behind the popular song'.

Subject: RE: Song Survey
From: cptsnapper
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 02:18 AM

Best Love Song " A Case Of You " Joni Mitchell

Subject: RE: Song Survey
From: NH Dave
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 02:29 AM

Best Rebel Song - US - One Wore Blue and One Wore Grey, Irish - Kevin Barry.

Religious Song - How Great Thou Art.

Every Day Song - The Gambler/Know When to Hold 'em.

Dave

Subject: RE: Song Survey
From: MBSLynne
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 04:13 AM

Quite difficult all round really..there are just so many.

Best rebel song: "Flower of Scotland"

Best religious song. Hmmm.. as a pagan, I still have to admit that the church has some of the best music. Can't choose between: "Bright Morning Star" "Blessed Quietness" several others which I'll come back to when I have time

Best love song: "First time ever I saw your face" has to be one of the best.

Best every day song: "Waterloo sunset" "The life of a Country Boy" "The Jute Mill Song"

I expect I'll come back to this when I've thought more

Love Lynne

Subject: RE: Song Survey
From: Mr Fox
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 07:52 AM

Eek! LOts to chose from! I take it you mean folk only? otherwise I'll be here all night.

Best rebel song: "Down by the Glenside", "The Foggy Dew" "Rogues in a Nation"

Best religious song. "The Word of God" by Catherine Faber and for pagans "The Mistletoe Bough" by Ken Nichol

Best love song: "First time ever I saw your face" "I once Loved a Lass" "Beeswing" by Richard Thompson

Best every day song: "Early to Bed" (Not sure of the writer, it's performed by Little Johnny England on their first album), "Work Life Out to Keep Life In" by Martin Carthy, "Lotteryland" by Richard Thompson

Subject: RE: Song Survey
From: jacqui.c
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 07:58 AM

Rebel song - Flower of Scotland

Love Song - First Time Ever I Saw Your Face

Religious Song - Dear Lord and Father of Mankind

Everyday Song - Dalesman's Litany

Subject: RE: Song Survey
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 08:07 AM

Anti Rebel    The Soldier (Harvey Andrews)

Love song    A Fond Kiss   (Burns)

Reigious (folk)   Cherry Tree Carol

Every Day    Home Lads Home (Fox-Smith)

Subject: RE: Song Survey
From: GUEST,Wayne
Date: 27 Apr 06 - 01:15 PM

Reigious: Down in Yon Forest /Drowning Man - Darden Smith

Rebel: Young Ned of the Hill - The Pogues
       Don't Bring Me Down - Gordon Lightfoot

Love: Luckiest Man - Pete Morton
      Cell Block One - Tom Pacheco

Everyday: Life is Football - Robb Johnson
          Tuscon Arizona (Gazette) - Dan Fogelberg (in my opinion, the greatest song yet to be written)

Subject: RE: Song Survey
From: Amos
Date: 02 Jan 11 - 06:40 PM

"Say You Will" is by Paul Metsers
[e-mail]
www.paulmetsers.co.uk

Subject: RE: Song Survey
From: Tootler
Date: 02 Jan 11 - 07:36 PM

Rebel: "Blowing in the Wind" or maybe "Ye Jacobites by Name".

Religious: "An Evening Hymn" Words: William Fuller, Bishop of Lincoln; Music: Henry Purcell
Hear Emma Kirkby sing it

Love: "Brigg Fair" or "Jock O'Hazeldean"

Everyday Life: "Bonny at Morn"

Subject: RE: Song Survey
From: Young Buchan
Date: 03 Jan 11 - 02:32 AM

Rebel: Jim Larkin
Religious: Can't argue with Cherry Tree but as an atheist can I have Life of a Man instead?
Love: False Lover Won Back
Everyday Life: Dancing in Glenrone

Subject: RE: Song Survey
From: Young Buchan
Date: 03 Jan 11 - 02:47 AM

"Amazing Grace (I don't care how semi-agnostic I may be; I'll sing this one anytime, anywhere)"

SEMI-agnostic! What on earth is SEMI-agnostic? You believe in God but are not sure if he is Harry Cox?

Subject: RE: Song Survey
From: GUEST,Allan Con
Date: 03 Jan 11 - 04:17 AM

Folk have put "Ye Jacobites By Name" and "Flower Of Scotland|" down as rebel Songs! The original Ye Jacobites was vehemently anti-Jacobite and though Burns may have reworked that out of it in his version it still looks to me as an 'anti-rebellion' song. Flower Of Scotland is sung by nationalists and unionists alike though it obviously has nationalist sentiments. I wouldn't call it a rebel song though. It says that those days (ie of conflict) must remain in the past but we can still rise to be a nation again. Surely Williamson was talking about the democratic process. Anti-union rebels of consequence in modern Scotland simply don't exist - at least there are not enough to fill about two phone boxes.

Rebel song - Donald MacGillevry
Religious - Abide with Me
Every day song - Pennies From Heaven
Love Song - You're A Big Girl Now (Dylan)

Though my choice would probably change in 30 minutes time

Subject: RE: Song Survey
From: topical tom
Date: 03 Jan 11 - 07:09 AM

Best rebel song (Ireland) The Patriot Game
                U.S.A.)   The Rebel soldier

Best religious song       Will There Be Any Stars in my Crown?            



Best love song            The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face and Best Everyday Song             It has to Come From Your Heart

Subject: RE: Song Survey
From: topical tom
Date: 03 Jan 11 - 07:11 AM

Apologies about my last messy post-the keyboard decided to act on it's own!

Subject: RE: Song Survey
From: Tootler
Date: 03 Jan 11 - 09:10 AM

The original Ye Jacobites was vehemently anti-Jacobite and though Burns may have reworked that out of it in his version it still looks to me as an 'anti-rebellion' song.

Precisely why I nominated it. There comes a point when it becomes futile to try to sustain rebellion. I think Burns recognised that and by reworking a vehemently anti-Jacobite song in the way he did, he was making a powerful statement. It is a statement about those who advocate violence when there is more to be achieved by peaceful means.

Subject: RE: Song Survey
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 03 Jan 11 - 09:56 AM

Rebel: Irish "Foggy Dew" ["'twas down the glen..."]; or maybe "Johnson's Motor Car".

Religious ~~ atheist also, but from my school assembly days [we still had them when I started teaching, the real old sort with hymns to piano accompt!]: "Immortal invisible God only wise"; words by W Chalmers Smith 1824-1908; tune St Denio: best of those great Hymns Ancient And Mid-Victorian!

Love song: Oh ~~ "Willie More" comes to mind just now; but tomorrow it might equally be "Magdalene Green" or "Here's adieu, Sweet Lovely Nancy" or "To Know Know Know Her is to Love Love Love Her" or "The Barley and the Rye" - or - or -

Everyday ~~ "I'm Bound To Follow The Longhorn Cows"; or "On Monday I Never Go To Work"; or "If it wasn't for the 'ouses in between"...

♫〠Michael〠♫

Subject: RE: Song Survey
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 03 Jan 11 - 10:00 AM

... or, category 1, how about "Glory-o, Glory-o, to the Bold Fenian Men", then!

~M~

Subject: RE: Song Survey
From: GUEST,Allan Con
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 04:56 AM

"There comes a point when it becomes futile to try to sustain rebellion"

Maybe I'm missing something but I still don't really get how this could be a rebel song as much as anti-rebel song! Maybe I'm thinking of rebel to literally? I agree that the song talks about the futility of continuing rebellion but as far as I can see it is not about his (ie the personae in the song's) rebellion. Even though he left out the anti-Jacobite vitriol of the original and makes it more of a "lets have some common sense song" it still seems to be written from a Whig perspective. Or at the the very least from a non-Jacobite perspective. Surely the first verse makes that clear. You Jacobites by name, your faults I will proclaim, your doctrines I must blame, you will hear.

Subject: RE: Song Survey
From: Jack Campin
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 07:12 AM

Right now, I reckon the most impressively rebellious songs we've got must be in the genre of Mexican drug-dealing songs (if I knew where to find them and had enough Spanish to make sense of them). Anybody know this stuff?

Subject: RE: Song Survey
From: greg stephens
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 07:17 AM

WEll there is a Mexican drug song, Pete Rowan's "The Free Mexican Airforce is Flying Tonight"

Subject: RE: Song Survey
From: greg stephens
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 07:22 AM

Here you are Free Mexican Airforce

Subject: RE: Song Survey
From: Jack Campin
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 07:23 AM

The Mexican genre (or one of them) is "narcocorrido". It goes quite a lot further than that...

Narcocorrido

Subject: RE: Song Survey
From: GUEST,Allan Con
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 09:31 AM

"Jack Campin"

Not seen you down in Kelso for a while now Jack! Things have changed a wee bit. We have an early open-mic session in the Ace Centre (it adjoins the ice rink) from about 8pm to 10:30pm then it moves down to the Cobbles for the pus session until closing time. Every Friday as always. The Cobbles tends to be more folk orientated than the Ace but can still be a noisy environment. So there is now a quieter once a month session in the Cobbles on Monday nights too.

Subject: RE: Song Survey
From: GUEST,Allan Con
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 09:32 AM

Cobbles should read pub session :-)

Subject: RE: Song Survey
From: GUEST,Doug Saum
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 12:34 PM

Rebel- "I Ain't A'marchin' Anymore" Phil Ochs, "Universal Soldier"   Buffy St. Marie,

Love - "And I Love Her" McCartney

Religion - "In the Garden" Spirit - "Unbroken Chain" Phil Lesh, "Ripple" Robert Hunter, Jerry Garcia,

Everday Life - "Walkin' Blues"

Subject: RE: Song Survey
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 02:14 PM

Love song: either OLD LOVE by Neal & Leandra or HARD LOVE by Bob Franke.

Rebel song: THE TIMES THEY ARE A-CHANGIN' (Dylan). I suppose "cultural" revolution is the only kind of rebellion I have ever been able to identify with.

Everyday life? The first one that comes to mind is LIFE GETS TEEJUS, DON'T IT, which is a pretty good song. Maybe BRANCHING OUT by John Gorka. (It's about everyday life if you interpret it as an allegory.) David Bromberg's SOMEONE ELSE'S BLUES is a pretty good description of what everyday life is like when you're dealing with clinical depression.

Religious (I guess I'd have to call it "spiritual"): HOW CAN I KEEP FROM SINGING?

Subject: RE: Song Survey
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 05:02 PM

Religious 'The Leaves of Life'
Love 'The first time ever I saw your face'
Rebel 'Tom Joad' or possibly 'Roddy McCorley', or 'Sean South of Garryowen'
Everyday life 'I wish I was single again'

Subject: RE: Song Survey
From: GUEST,Desi C
Date: 05 Jan 11 - 11:59 AM

Best rebel song, Irish, for me is equally Kevin Barry for it's sheer emotional quality and it greatly Inspired the fight for independance, and Dominic Behan's The Patriot Game, which inspired Dylan's God On Our Side

Best love song, again two, First Time Ever I saw Your Favce, by Ewan McColl, as it has a great true story, and the Irish Song, The Rose Of Tralee, again a wonderful true story

Song of everyday life, too many to choose, but McColl's Dirty Old Town, must be a contender, also one I love to perform, sammy's Bar by Cyril Tawney