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Subject: BS: Not Pay Pal From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 31 Jul 06 - 04:29 PM Awfully tired of getting "Pay Pal" emails. My server stops those with a 'trojan.' Some of the posts may be legitimate, but I delete them all. Anyone else getting them, sometimes several in one day? (No, I don't use Pay Pal) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Not Pay Pal From: Clinton Hammond Date: 31 Jul 06 - 04:31 PM If you don't use PayPal, then none of the emails you get are legit..... IF you DO use paypal, only those messages that refer to you by your exact user-name are legit.... delete all others un-opened..... This has been standard procedure for years and years.... Why do we still need to bandy it about.... It's like starting a thread aobut shampoo instructions.... Did you know you're supposed to wet your hair, apply the shampoo, lather it, and THEN rinse??? Geeze...... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Not Pay Pal From: jeffp Date: 31 Jul 06 - 04:33 PM And still you forget........... REPEAT!!!!!!!!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Not Pay Pal From: Clinton Hammond Date: 31 Jul 06 - 04:34 PM You only have to repeat if you wish |
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Subject: RE: BS: Not Pay Pal From: jeffp Date: 31 Jul 06 - 04:50 PM But it's in the instructions, so it must be discussed. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Not Pay Pal From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 31 Jul 06 - 07:42 PM Now I need instructions on how to shampoo Clintonhammond out of Mudcat threads. (I wasn't asking if the paypal emails were legit or not but whether anyone else was being inundated by them. Perhaps I should be charitable to one whose comprehension skills are lower than those of a flatworm) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Not Pay Pal From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 31 Jul 06 - 07:55 PM Buses here have a sign, which prompts me to say... "Ensure brain is in gear when mouth is in motion" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Not Pay Pal From: Divis Sweeney Date: 31 Jul 06 - 07:57 PM Bloody tortured with emails about penis enlargement ! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Not Pay Pal From: jaze Date: 31 Jul 06 - 08:10 PM Mine would be as big as Ohio if I took up half the offers I get! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Not Pay Pal From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 31 Jul 06 - 08:39 PM X-Lib-of-Cong-ISSN: 1098-7649 Forwarded-by: Gene Philips INSTRUCTIONS: Follow these instructions EXACTLY, and in 20 to 60 days you will have received well over 50,000 inches of penis, all yours. This program has remained successful because of the inadequacy and vanity of the participants. Please continue its success by carefully adhering to the instructions. Welcome to the world of Mail Order Penis Enlargement! This business is a little different from most cosmetic surgery. Your product is not tangible and solid [sic], but rather, a service. You are in the business of extending penii. Many small of endowment are happy to pay big bucks for this service. (The money made from the penis enlargement is secondary to the income which is made from people like yourself requesting that they be included in that list.) 1) Immediately cut off your penis at the base. 2) Cut off the head of your penis, and pack it in ice for later use. 3) Take the remaining midsection of your penis, and cut it into 5 pieces of equal length. 4) Immediately mail each piece to the first 5 names listed below starting at number 1 through number 5. Send penis only please (total investment = your penis). Enclose a note with each piece stating: "Please add my name to your mailing list." (This is a legitimate service that you are requesting and you are paying with your penis for this service). 5) Remove the name that appears number 1 on the list. Move the other 9 names up one position. (Number 2 will become number 1 and number 3 will become number 2, etc.) Place your name, address and zip code in the number 10 position. 6) Post the new letter with your name in the number 10 position into 10 (Ten) separate newsgroups. 7) Within 60 days you will receive over 50,000 inches of PENIS. Keep a copy of this file for yourself so that you can use it again and again whenever you need penis enlargement. As soon as you mail out these letters you are automatically in the mail order business and people are sending you their penis to be placed on your mailing list. This list can then be rented to a reconstructive cosmetic surgeon that can be found in the Yellow Pages for additional income on a regular basis. The list will become more valuable as it grows in size. This is a service. This is perfectly legal. If you have any doubts, refer to Title 18, Sec. 1302 & 1341 of the postal lottery laws. NOTE: Make sure you retain EVERY Name and Address sent to you, either on computer or hard copy, but do not discard the names and notes they send you. This is PROOF that you are truly providing a service and should the AMA, FDA, or some other Government Agency question you, you can provide them with this proof! Remember as each post is downloaded and the instructions carefully followed, five members will be reimbursed for their participation as a Penis Enlarger with one inch of penis each. Your name will move up the list geometrically so that when your name reaches the number five position you will be receiving thousands of inches in penis. 1. Daniel J. Karnes 6394-B Tawney Bloom Mogi Donuts, MD 21045 2. Emil T. Chuck 6394-A Tawney Bloom Mogi Donuts, MD 21045 4. William Davenant 8295 Hiding Closet Rd Clarkston, MI 48348 5. Peter Ruckman 14805 Rivercrest Sterling Hts., MI 48312 6. Steven Crisp 3718 Kings Point Troy, MI 48083 7. Mark Gengler 5748 Patterson Troy, MI 48098 8. Pat Robertson 666 God's Little Homophobe Road Anti-Christ Hills, VA 48307 9. Fred Phelps 14-U Our Saviour of the Closet Lane Orchard Lake, MI 48323 10. Jesse Helms 20840 Tobacco Mercenary Street Lung Cancer Hacks., VA 48038 Dear Friend, My name is Daniel J. Karnes. In September 1988 my life was repressed and the bible thumpers were hounding me like you wouldn't believe. I was never laid and my mental disability checks had run out. The only escape I had from the pressure of failure was my Apple computer and my bible. I longed to turn my fixation into my vocation. This January 1989 my family and I went on a ten day cruise to the tropics. I bought a Double-Wide Trailer with CASH in Feburary 1989. I am currently building a Self-Worship Temple on the West Coast of Florida, with a private S/M Dungeon with room for all of my closeted friends, and a beautiful view of the bay from my women's shoes closet and wardrobe. I will never be underendowed again. Today I am equipped! I have over 400,000 inches of penis (33,333 feet and 4 inches! ) to date and will become a million-incher within 4 or 5 months. Anyone can do the same. This penis enlargement making program works perfectly every time, 100% of the time. I have NEVER failed to earn 50,000 inches or more whenever I wanted. Best of all you never have to leave home except to go to your mailbox or reconstructive surgeon. In October 1988, I received a letter in the mail telling me how I could earn 50,000 inches of penis or more whenever I wanted. I was naturally very skeptical and threw the letter on the desk next to my computer. It's funny though, when you are desparately underendowed, backed into a corner, your mind does crazy things. I spent a frustating day looking through the want ads for a wife who didn't need sexual fulfillment. The pickings were sparse at best. That night I tried to unwind by booting up my Apple computer and calling several gay bulletin boards. I read several of the message posts and then glanced at the letter next to the computer. All at once it came to me, I now had the key to my dreams. I realized that with the power of the computer I could expand and enhance this penis making formula into the most unbelievable penis enlargement generator that has ever been created. I substituted the computer bulletion boards in place of the post office and electronically did by computer what others were doing 100% by mail. Now only a few letters are mailed manually. Most of the hard work is speedily downloaded to other bulletin boards throughout the world. If you believe that someday you deserve that lucky break that you have waited for all your life, simply follow the easy instructions below. Your dreams will come true. Sincerely yours, Daniel J. Karnes -- Why doesn't Wenchell's -- Serve Mogi Donuts? About six months ago I received the enclosed post in letter form. I ignored it. I received about five more of the same letter withn the next two weeks. I ignored them also. Of course, I was tempted to follow through and dreamed of making thousands of inches, but I was convinced it was just another gimmick and could not possibly work. I was wrong! About three weeks later I saw this same letter posted on a local bulletion board in Montreal. I liked the idea of giving it a try with my computer. I didn't expect much because I figured, if other people were as skeptical as I, they wouldn't be too quick to part with their penis. But, I buy lottery tickets weekly in my province and have nothing to show for it but ticket stubs. This week I decided to look at this as my weekly lottery purchase. I addressed the envelopes and mailed out one piece of my penis in each as directed. Two weeks went by and I didn't recieve anything in the mail. The fourth week rolled around and I couldn't believe what happened! I can't say I received 50,000 inches, but it was definitely well over 35,000! For the first time in all my years, I was adequately endowed. It was great. Of course, it didn't take me long to feel inadequate again so I am using this excellent penis enlargement opportunity once again. Follow the instructions and get ready to enjoy. Please send a copy of this letter along with the enclosed letter so together we can convince people who are skeptical that it really works! Good Luck,
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Subject: RE: BS: Not Pay Pal From: mack/misophist Date: 31 Jul 06 - 09:01 PM Consider yourself flamed. How can one resist? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Not Pay Pal From: Joe Offer Date: 31 Jul 06 - 10:14 PM I have to say I've almost been fooled by some of thos "phishing" messages. Heck if the e-mail address says such-and-such@paypal.com and they use the PayPal logo and graphics and all that, wouldn't most people think it legitimate? When I access Hotmail, I sometimes get a little popup box that askes for my user name and password. Sometimes, my virus protection says there's no certficiate for this page that's asking for my information - but I can't get into my e-mail without entering the password. So I enter it, and still I wonder if it's legit or not. Sometimes the illegitimate stuff looks more credible than the legitimate, so what's a person to do? Addressing me by my user name is a good system of verification for some systems. I think the "picture key" method used by the Bank of America website. I choose a picture from a list of icons, and then that icon appears on my login page. I'm warned that if my icon isn't correct, I should not log in and I should call customer service. Seems like a pretty good system. -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Not Pay Pal From: Stilly River Sage Date: 31 Jul 06 - 10:55 PM eBay also posts a copy of each email they send you on the eBay site so if you get one you're not sure about, you can check on eBay. Does PayPal do something similar? I don't recall. I don't get legitimate PayPal email very often, just telling me they deducted this month's bill from my balance. Most of it ends up in the spam filter. Tons of it. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Not Pay Pal From: katlaughing Date: 31 Jul 06 - 11:12 PM Likewise here, SRS. When I go to Yahoo, there's always tons in the Bulk box, sent there by the smap filter. I never look at it. It's an automatic delete for me! I hardly ever use PayPal, but do get updates once in a great while. Since I don't look at my spam I don't know if I've been getting phished or not.:-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Not Pay Pal From: Folkiedave Date: 01 Aug 06 - 03:36 AM As a book dealer who purchases regularly from the USA I find Paypal useful and I have NEVER received any legitimate spam from them. AS far as penis enlargement is concerned along with the entreaties to purchase viagra they go straight in the bin. When my wife found out she went barmy. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Not Pay Pal From: GUEST,Ian Pittaway Date: 01 Aug 06 - 04:23 AM The point of the fake PayPal, eBay, Amazon, Hotmail, [insert name of bank] etc. - as explained to me by a techie friend - emails is this. You click on the link to sign in, which looks legit. It usually even has the name of the company in there. Sometimes they try and frighten you by saying there's suspicious activity on your account and they are asking you to sign in to confirm your details. I've had emails of this sort from companies I have no account with, which is a bit of a giveaway. When you click it redirects you to the fake website, set up just to get the details of people like you. Once you sign in here they instantly have at their disposal anything you care to fill in - user name, password, telephone number, address, credit card details. You know what happens next. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Not Pay Pal From: GUEST Date: 01 Aug 06 - 04:47 AM FolkieDave, why did she go barmy? Because you'd been sent them, or because you'd put them in the bin? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Not Pay Pal From: Mrs.Duck Date: 01 Aug 06 - 05:45 AM My latest problem is e mails saying 'unable to send e mail' then an attachment which I don't open. However if I have sent e mails I need to check each one in case they are genuine - usually its obvious from the text that its nothing to do with me but it all takes time and is very irritating. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Not Pay Pal From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 01 Aug 06 - 08:41 AM "Subject: RE: BS: Not Pay Pal From: Joe Offer - PM Date: 31 Jul 06 - 10:14 PM I have to say I've almost been fooled by some of thos "phishing" messages. Heck if the e-mail address says such-and-such@paypal.com and they use the PayPal logo and graphics and all that, wouldn't most people think it legitimate?" I start from the opposite end Joe. Everything I receive by E-Mail is a scam until I've checked back and confirmed it. I've been using E-Bay and Pay-Pal for years without trouble, by ensuring that I only deal with them if I have logged in to their sites. All the junk goes straight in the trash can. Going back to the subject of the thread tho', I too am bothered by the number of these crap messages I receive (5 to 10 per day), but I don't see any way to avoid them without regulating the net in a way I don't want to happen. Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Not Pay Pal From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 01 Aug 06 - 09:54 AM Having just gone through an episode of identity theft, I have this to say. If you are receiving spam and phishing messages, it means that a lot of evil people out there have a lead into your accounts and the data that's in them. Change your e-mail address and keep it quiet. I don't do much buying via Internet, but somehow thieves got hold of my e-mail address and credit card number. This happened even though the credit card itself was zipped into a side pocket of my purse. It also happened although all these merchants (sellers, credit-care company, Paypal) swear up and down my data is secure. Don't post your e-mail address on the Internet, ever. It means informing your friends of your new address, but it's worth the effort. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Not Pay Pal From: Stilly River Sage Date: 01 Aug 06 - 10:51 AM There seems to be no way to keep an account address "quiet," leeneia, that's part of the problem here. I have one I set up via Google's G-mail that I sent out to only three people, and it still started getting spam. Go figure. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Not Pay Pal From: Grab Date: 01 Aug 06 - 10:56 AM Spam doesn't mean that anyone has a lead into your email account. Knowing someone's address doesn't mean you can get into their house... But it's annoying, so the warning not to post your email address is perfectly valid. Alternatively, get yourself a free email address from Hotmail, Yahoo, Bigfoot or whoever, and use it solely as a destination for subscriptions to websites. You *know* it's going to get spam, but it'll be going somewhere that you don't care about. Card-wise though, sadly it's all too possible. But then that's nothing different from how things used to be before the Internet - card fraud still happened back then. And most of it still uses the same method too, which is someone on the inside getting paid off. Graham. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Not Pay Pal From: Clinton Hammond Date: 01 Aug 06 - 11:30 AM "whether anyone else was being inundated by them" Everybody gets spam/addware/phishing/ etc.... It's hardly even worth talking about..... "Knowing someone's address doesn't mean you can get into their house..." I don't even need your address..... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Not Pay Pal From: curmudgeon Date: 01 Aug 06 - 03:01 PM Got a PayPal phish this morning. As per usual, i forwarded to spoof@paypal.com, so that they can go after the miscreants. One can also do the same with spoof@ebay.com -- Tom |
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Subject: RE: BS: Not Pay Pal From: Joe Offer Date: 01 Aug 06 - 03:25 PM In general, whenever I log onto a site that involves money and passwords, I log directly onto the site and don't follow links from e-mails. I've never had any trouble, but I do get concerned about the credible appearance of many of the "phishing" e-mails I've received lately. -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Not Pay Pal From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 01 Aug 06 - 06:06 PM What I've noticed about those Joe, is that they almost all contain the same kind of grammar and spelling errors as the Nigerian Scam mails. Makes 'em easier to spot. You're right about links in E-Mails. Strictly a no-no. As for spam, I think they blanket bomb names and ISPs in many cases, and don't know or care about individual addresses. Phishing attacks may possibly use the same approach, as the intention is to get YOU to furnish the data they want. I keep one E-Mail address for financial dealings, with a username which is a jumble of letters and numbers, and never receive any spam on that one. Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Not Pay Pal From: Mr Red Date: 02 Aug 06 - 05:45 AM Folkie Dave - you is lucky I have had about three unwarranted messages from PayPal - encouraging me to use their services at every opportunity. I have bought prcisely 2 items Via e-bay and one of those seemed to use a system not attched to PayPal. I always make it conditional on any purchase (Buyers Agreement) that there will be no junk mail/telephone of any sort - they usually ignore it and always get a snotty letter with reference to the court case in the UK a while back and my conditions which have been broken. It does the trick on vendors - the ignorant get the message. I haven't bought again from those. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Not Pay Pal From: Dave Wynn Date: 02 Aug 06 - 06:59 AM Joe..When you say "I log directly on to their site" do actually key the HTTP:// address?. Coz thats what I do. I never follow a shortcut or a favourite or a clicky link or icons. I key the name of the address I need. This avoids the trojans that can change your favourites and desktop icons. This maybe common practice so I don't mean to teach anyone to suck eggs. I used to be a real nice naive kind of guy until I met the internet. Now I seem to be developing suspicion and paranoia. Spot the Dog |
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Subject: RE: BS: Not Pay Pal From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 02 Aug 06 - 11:39 AM No, Spot, I don't believe your tip is common knowledge. I will bear it in mind. Thanks. As for your suspicion and paranoia, suspicion is okay, but watch the paranoia. It makes your hair fall out. The Internet has certainly heightened awareness on the part of normal people how many liars, cheats and mischiefmakers are among us. Shakespeare tried to tell us when he created Iago, but most of us didn't listen. I know I didn't. |
