Tune Req: Hymn tune called 'Lloyd'

Subject: Tune Req: Hymn tune called 'Lloyd'
From: Haruo
Date: 28 Aug 06 - 03:14 AM

I just posted the text of a Christian Animal-Rights hymn, incipit "We praise Thee, Lord, for wings and beaks", on the Hymn Text forum of the Hymn Society in the United States and Canada. My source suggests "Lloyd" as a possible tune. I find no mention of a tune name "Lloyd" in the Cyber Hymnal. The Oremus Hymnal mentions it but doesn't give a source or any other information (let alone the music itself).

My fairly extensive collection of hymnals is, unfortunately, overwhelmingly American in its English-language contents; the only British English hymnal I own is the animal-rights collection Hymns for Creatures Great and Small, from which I took the text; it is a text-only collection.

So I'm wondering, hopefully, if some British Mudcatter has this tune and can post it or email it to me in some usable format (preferably PDF or MIDI, or NWC)...

Haruo

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Hymn tune called 'Lloyd'
From: GUEST,doc.tom
Date: 28 Aug 06 - 09:43 AM

Lloyd is not in many English Hymnals either! It is in the Methodist Hymn Book: additional tunes no.29 - It's a C.M. metre.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Hymn tune called 'Lloyd'
From: masato sakurai
Date: 28 Aug 06 - 12:25 PM

Hi, Haruo. Here you are.

X:1
T:LLOYD
M:C
L:1/4
K:F
C:C. Howard, 1856-1927
S:The Methodist Hymn-Book with Tunes (London, 1933), Additional Tune 29
V:1
A2AB|c3F|E2G2|F4|
V:2
F2FE|F3C|C2C2|C4|
V:3
C2CC|C3A,|G,2B,2|A,4|
V:4
F,2F,G,|A,3C,|C,2C,2|F,4|
V:1
A2Bc|d2G2|G4|
V:2
F2FF|F2F2|E4|
V:3
C2CC|B,2D2|C4|
V:4
F,2G,A,|B,2=B,2|C4|
V:1
e2dc|f3c|B2c2|A4|
V:2
G2GG|F3F|F2E2F4|
V:3
C2CC|C3C|D2C2|C4|
V:4
B,2B,B,|A,3A,|G,2C,2|F,4|
V:1
c2BG|D2E2|F4|]
V:2
_E2DD|D2C2|C4|]
V:3
F,2F,G,|B,A,G,B,|[A,4F,4]|]
V:4
A,,2B,,B,,|B,,2C,2|F,,4|]

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Hymn tune called 'Lloyd'
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 28 Aug 06 - 12:29 PM

Haruo - you can find a reference to the tune in the Hymn Tune Index. You can search for Lloyd as tune name (you need to accept cookies for the search to work I think). (Or you can seach for the tune number 8226 - that's the number). It returns the tune as follows:

53(5)4(2)1(D7)U12(435)4(2)1(D7) - U1D7(U2)1(3)3(24)3(5)5(465)4(3)2 - 4(3)5(4)6(5)4(3)43(243)5(4)3(2) - D5(7)6(U1)D7(U2)1(324)34(321)D7U1(3243) - [D7(7)6(U1)D7(U2)1(324)3(5)6(543)21]
Meter: 8.8.8.8.0      Mode: major    3 citations, earliest in 1800

By Dr. Edward Miller.

The coding is described in HTI Coding Scheme

If you press the Citations button and then the Source link from the citation you'll get all the information for the tune source and text.

Mick

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Hymn tune called 'Lloyd'
From: sian, west wales
Date: 29 Aug 06 - 04:30 AM

It's one of the hymn tunes used for "There is a Green Hill Far Away" - indeed, the one I prefer - and yet it doesn't seem to be in the Canadian Presbyterian, United Church or Mennonite hymn books. Odd. I know I sang it as a kid. It IS in various Welsh hymn books.

sian

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Hymn tune called 'Lloyd'
From: GUEST,Wyrd Sister
Date: 29 Aug 06 - 06:21 AM

also used for "While shepherds watched..." in S Yorks

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Hymn tune called 'Lloyd'
From: Haruo
Date: 29 Aug 06 - 01:26 PM

Masato and Mick, you're using two quite different alphanumeric transcriptions, neither of which I have mastered. Can you name them and point me to a page where I can decipher them? (Or a converter program like concertina.net that will make scores or midis out of them?)

Haruo

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Hymn tune called 'Lloyd'
From: MMario
Date: 29 Aug 06 - 01:30 PM

Harou - if you cut and past the post from Masato into concertina.net you can get midi, pdf, etc.

This may work - for example

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Hymn tune called 'Lloyd'
From: Haruo
Date: 29 Aug 06 - 02:25 PM

Not Found

The requested URL /tunes-temp/44f479460ebff.pdf was not found on this server.

I guess when they say "tunes-temp" they mean "tunes-temp"!

Thanks for the tip, though, MMario.

Haruo

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Hymn tune called 'Lloyd'
From: Haruo
Date: 29 Aug 06 - 02:32 PM

Thanks both of you, all of you. Anybody having the 1933 Methodist book and able to send me a photocopy of Lloyd in all its harmonized glory will be greatly appreciated...

Haruo

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Hymn tune called 'Lloyd'
From: MMario
Date: 29 Aug 06 - 02:37 PM

address?

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Hymn tune called 'Lloyd'
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 29 Aug 06 - 03:02 PM

Haruo

If you can handle postscript, I've generated the postscript version of the score (4 part) from masato's abc and I can email that to you. Otherwise, I can generate a pdf from that for you.

PM me an email address.

Mick

(If you have the Sibelius Scorch plug-in, you can see/hear the tune in Precious Gift, which includes Lloyd at score id C)

Mick

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Hymn tune called 'Lloyd'
From: Haruo
Date: 29 Aug 06 - 03:12 PM

Email me at work. The PDF would probably be best for me.

lross( at )gilmore-research.com
Haruo

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Hymn tune called 'Lloyd'
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 29 Aug 06 - 03:14 PM

File sent.

Mick

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Hymn tune called 'Lloyd'
From: masato sakurai
Date: 30 Aug 06 - 07:31 AM

Cut and paste the ABC file above into the box at CONCERTINA_net - Tune-O-Tron Converter, and press "Submit."

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Hymn tune called 'Lloyd'
From: masato sakurai
Date: 30 Aug 06 - 07:50 AM

There's a shape-note tune titled LLOYD, which you can hear at Voices of Fort Worth, Voices of Waco, Voices of Maquoketa River, Voices of Shakopee, Voices of Edwardsville, and Voices of Ider. It's a recent composition (see Lloyd 503).