BS: Frazetta's art

Subject: BS: Frazetta's art
From: The Shambles
Date: 11 Dec 06 - 05:33 PM

What do you think?

Subject: RE: BS: Frazetta's art
From: artbrooks
Date: 11 Dec 06 - 05:47 PM

More here

Subject: RE: BS: Frazetta's art
From: Peace
Date: 11 Dec 06 - 05:52 PM

LOL

Subject: RE: BS: Frazetta's art
From: GUEST,Colonel Klink
Date: 11 Dec 06 - 06:04 PM

Hogannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!

Subject: RE: BS: Frazetta's art
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Dec 06 - 10:54 PM

I think it sucks. Dreadful art. Tasteless, ugly, and gross. Unappealing in the extreme. Perfect for Heavy Metal album covers, and that really says it all. ;-)

If Shane had artistic abilities, he would BE Frank Frazetta!

Subject: RE: BS: Frazetta's art
From: Cluin
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 12:22 PM

But how do you REALLY feel about it?

Subject: RE: BS: Frazetta's art
From: Cluin
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 12:25 PM

Ever seen the work of Francis Bacon?

Not the 16th/17th century philosopher, but his descendant the 20th century painter.

Subject: RE: BS: Frazetta's art
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 02:40 PM

My favourite SF and Fantasy illustrator was Jack Gaughan. Back in the 60s he did a lot of illos for Galaxy and its sister mags and he also did a lot of classic covers for Ace paperbacks. I think that he died about 10 or 15 years ago and suspect, sadly, that he's already been forgotten.

Subject: RE: BS: Frazetta's art
From: mrdux
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 04:35 PM

gaughan died in 1985, and while gone, he's not entirely forgotten. the new england s.f. association gives out the annual gaughan awards for the best emerging sf artist.

at the bottom of this page are some of his illustrations.

michael

Subject: RE: BS: Frazetta's art
From: Elmer Fudd
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 04:43 PM

What about Francis Bacon, Cluin? Yeah--seen his work.

E.

Subject: RE: BS: Frazetta's art
From: Cluin
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 05:31 PM

Little Hawk was talking about ugly and gross. That guy made a career out of it.

Subject: RE: BS: Frazetta's art
From: Elmer Fudd
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 05:34 PM

Oh. Agreed. (But I'm sure if Bacon read these posts his feelings would be so hurt he'd cry all the way to the bank.)

Feasted your eyes on any Basquiat lately?

E.

Subject: RE: BS: Frazetta's art
From: Cluin
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 05:42 PM

I kind of like some of Basquiat's work, at least the more figurative stuff. But he, like Bacon, isn't around any more to care what we think.

Bacon had the skill to make his images really repellent.

Subject: RE: BS: Frazetta's art
From: Elmer Fudd
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 07:04 PM

Yes he did. Little Mister Sunshine.

Uh, and now for someone really repellent: how---about---

taaaaaahhhh-DAH!

Thomas Kinkade!!!!!!!!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Frazetta's art
From: Cluin
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 07:05 PM

Ha! Whattaya got against Christmas cards, Elmer?

Subject: RE: BS: Frazetta's art
From: Elmer Fudd
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 07:07 PM

Hey. I thought you'd appreciate the taahhhhhhh-DAH, at least.

Subject: RE: BS: Frazetta's art
From: Cluin
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 07:10 PM

I do. Thanks.

Subject: RE: BS: Frazetta's art
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 13 Dec 06 - 12:48 PM

Dear 'mrdux',

Thank you so much for the information and those links!

They really took me back. I think that the March 1965 issue of 'If', containing Fred Saberhagen's 'Stone Place', was the first one I bought - and I still have it. I loved 'Galaxy', 'If' and 'Worlds of Tomorrow' under Frederick Pohl's editorship. In my particular corner of the UK they weren't particularly easy to find, but I often managed to pick up back issues as imports. I think that Gaughan's illustrations were one of the factors which made those mags so exciting.

Was it really as long ago as 1985 that he died? Doesn't time fly!

Subject: RE: BS: Frazetta's art
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 14 Dec 06 - 08:01 AM

Frazetta's fantasy art is good, and he has respect and reputation in that field. A few works outside the fantasy themes show he's capable of working with other themes, and isn't, unlike a lot of them, doing the fantasy stuff just 'cause he can't do anything else.

Those who like him can drop back a generation and check out Boris Valejo, who has/had "prettier" fantasies; but since Boris started taking help from his sweetie (who has her own reputation of sorts) most of his more recent work seems to me to make even the females a bit "homoerotic." (She likes really big muscles, apparently.)

Valejo's "Portrait of Bill and Hillary" is certainly fantasy, and is "billious" if not "hillaryous" - if you can find it; but it's "disappeared itself" from the sites where I've seen it, including Velejo's.

John

Subject: RE: BS: Frazetta's art
From: Cluin
Date: 19 Dec 06 - 07:10 AM

JiK: "drop back a generation..."?

Actually Frank Frazetta is of an earlier generation than Boris Vallejo. Vallejo started as a sort of imitator of Frazetta's work.

Frazetta got his start in comics and illustrations for Playboy.

Subject: RE: BS: Frazetta's art
From: GUEST,Albrecht
Date: 19 Dec 06 - 11:10 AM

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Subject: RE: BS: Frazetta's art
From: EBarnacle
Date: 20 Dec 06 - 10:58 AM

Kinkaide gives art a bad name and is doing his best to ruin the market. His editions are so large that to call them "limited" is a misnomer. It's more like "limited to all I can sell." I won't deny that his art is popular. Perhaps a century from now, he will be considered the equivalent of Currier and Ives for kitsch. Some will certainly survive that long just because there are so many.

It is my understanding that Francis Bacon was a cleric and died childless. If I am wrong, mea culpa.

Subject: RE: BS: Frazetta's art
From: Cluin
Date: 20 Dec 06 - 11:00 AM

Not that Francis Bacon, EB. But the 20th century one.