BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?

Subject: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 04:28 AM

Have we a vet in the house? Ben, my 8-year old border collie cross is limping badly (right hand rear leg), and the vet wants to sedate him and x-ray him to check for arthritus and possible hip problems - which will cost about £100!

However she has accepted that it may be sense to adminster an anti-inflammatory and pain relief for a week and to keep him off exercise in case it is a simple strain. She has prescribed Metacam. So that was £40 for the consultation and the Metacam.

Why not Ibruprofen? It's an anti-inflammatory and a pain reliever (at least it is for humans), and since Ben weighs 28 kilos (62 pounds - and he's not a mountain of blubber, just a very large border cross) one ordinary BP200mg pill would be about the right dose - or is it dangerous or ineffective for dogs?

It would be a hell of a lot cheaper - which of course may well be why the vet wants to use Metacam and make more profit. My local vet can charge like a wounded rhino.

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 05:13 AM

I don't recommend medicating a dog yourself, and feel that Ibuprofen meant for a full sized human may do more harm than good. If you must try to help the dog yourself, please go out and buy some children's aspirin. Aspirin is also an anti inflammatory, and is based on acetasalacylic acid which is a naturally occuring compound, so is les likely to harm your pet.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 05:17 AM

I'm not a vet, but my Merck Veterinary Manual does list ibuprofen as an analgesic for dogs. Dosage 5 to 10 mg/kg, once or twice per day as needed.

Note that the section that lists "common medications" does not go into detail about possible side effects or effectiveness for a particular problem. It merely lists the drug with a "common dose." It also lists aspirin, which most veterinarians rather strongly discourage using as a home medication in dogs.

A significant question is whether it's appropriate for long term use, or is included only for short term or occasional treatment.

Metacam isn't listed in any of my refs, so I can't look at whether it's a "same class of" or something else.

John

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 05:19 AM

http://www.petplace.com/drug-library/ibuprofen-motrin-advil-etc/page1.aspx

Looks like one 200mg ibruprofen every 12 hours should be nearly spot on.

The site seems fairly authoritative.

Do we have a vet with a view? I trust my vet only to give the advice that is the most profitable for it.....

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: pixieofdoom
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 05:51 AM

This may not be helpful as I have cats rather than a dog but I absolutely trust my vet (with good reason) and she prescribes Metacam when necessary and it seems to be extremely effective. Personally I'd rather pay the extra money and be confident my pet was getting the right thing.

Really hope Ben feels better soon

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: nutty
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 05:53 AM

Richard I have just Googled "Ibuprofen for dogs" and found lots of information that you may find useful. Most sites said NO to Ibuprofen as, if given in the incorrect dose, it can prove toxic.

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 06:03 AM

Yes Nutty, I did that, and after wading through the panic-merchants and profiteers, the link I gave above stood out as a beacon of rationality and aparent reliability. Did you check it? It says 2.5 to 4 mg per pound per 12 hours, so at 62 lbs that would be 155 to 248 mg per 12 hours for Ben, so one 200mg tablet per 12 hours (or, better, half per 6) would be pretty conservative.

Incidentally, Ben has the digestion of a Labrador - anything apparently edible is drawn into his maw like light into a black hole, and nothing seems to do him any harm. This may be because he is probably part Labrador as well as part border, which may also explain the apparent hip issues.

I will give him the week of the Metacam now I have paid for it though, and we'll see.

The dogs cost me £600 for 2 operations last Xmas (tumour on back of neck for Bonnie the Great Dane, vet said about £200, bill came in at £300, needle tumour on throat for Ben, Vet said £240 bill came in at over £300) and they are NOT going to do it again!

In the summer this vet told me the cat needed £300-worth of dental treatment, but he didn't get it and he has pretty much put the lost weight back on, so that is another reason I don't trust the vet.

Is there a vet in the house?

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: nutty
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 07:07 AM

My mum had a chihuahua that live to the ripe old age of 15.
Whenever he had any aches and pains she would give him a teaspoon of brandy - which he loved. He would waddle around like a drunkard for a couple of hours, then go to sleep and wake up perfectly healthy.
Each to his own as they say.

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 07:27 AM

The general adivice I find using Google is not to give Non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs to dogs without the advice of a vet.

Wikipedia article on Metacam says:

"Meloxicam is almost unique as a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug or NSAID in veterinary medicine in as much as it is one of the few NSAIDs that is not prone to cause severe stomach ulcers in canines. It is often prescribed after surgery for canine arthritis."

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: GUEST,blowz at work
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 07:47 AM

Metacam is wonderful stuff - kept my old boy skipping around till he was fifteen and a half.

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: GUEST,vectis at work
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 08:14 AM

My old arthritic dog took half a soluble Disprin a day for five years to help ease his arthritis. He then had a whole Disprin a day for the last year of his life. No we did not disolve them in water first. We chucked them he caught and swallowed them.
The vets don't approve of this because Metacam is so much more profitable.

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: Becca72
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 08:21 AM

"Do we have a vet with a view? I trust my vet only to give the advice that is the most profitable for it....."


If this is the case, you need a new vet.

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: Bee
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 08:22 AM

Our dog was seriously arthritic from the age of seven til her death at 14. We tried the cheap route for a short time, but Metacam prescribed by our vet, whom I trust, proved the best for alleviating her pain and even seemed to restore the joints to some extent. We didn't find it that expensive in the long run. A dog's life is short, we felt it was well worth it - and we ain't rich.

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 08:30 AM

Well I'm up for £40 for a 5 day supply - appointment and drug. I can't afford £8 per day for a dog.

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: Bee
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 08:37 AM

Hmmm... it cost us $70. Canadian for six weeks worth, once she was stabilized as to dosage. Our vet shops around for cheaper sources of various medications.

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 08:38 AM

Our vet suggested glucosamine for Heidi our female grey ... 2x500mg tablets a day ... seems to work. At least she shows no sign of pain and doesn't favour her affected leg.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 08:44 AM

I should mention our vet did have her on metacam initially for about 2 weeks after having her torn ligaments fixed by surgery ... he didn't feel comfortable keeping her on it for too long ... glocosamine was his suggestion ... and she will be on this for her remaining days ... the ligaments healed, but as a result of her injury, she will be artritic for her remaining days.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: Becca72
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 08:45 AM

My sister has her elder pug on glucosamine and it's done wonders for him. He'll be 16 in February and he's really perked up since he started taking it. They have a special treat they give him every morning with the glucosamine in it. He's getting meds but he thinks he's being spoiled.

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 08:59 AM

Glucosamine and plenty of fish oils!
Don't compramise on the pain killers though, an ulcer could prove even more expensive in the long run!

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: The PA
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 09:05 AM

Be very careful if self medicating. Should something go badly wrong, and I sincerely hope it doesnt, and you need costly emergency vetinerary treatment, your insurance company will not always pay up if they find you have been treating your dog yourself.

I agree glucosamine is brilliant, we have a 34 year old pony who, up until last year, was still competing at dressage. She only stopped because he rider got too tall. I would recommend it to all middle aged/older animals (and their humans!)

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 09:26 AM

If I had insurance, I wouldn't be paying the vet bills. First flipping dogs that have ever needed much medical treatment (one of the pointers used to rip his feet up a bit, but I was better off then...)

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: The PA
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 09:59 AM

With our dogs insurance you have to pay up to the first 50 quid, (the horses are the first 100) the insurance company should then take care of the rest, but this probably differs with different companies.

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: The PA
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 10:00 AM

Sorry meant to add, my friends a senior vet nurst, I'll PM you any advice she may have.

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 10:19 AM

Wasn't glucosamine originally a veterinary drug that humans started taking for their arthritis? Now it has gone full circle back to the pooches!

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: Scoville
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 10:57 AM

Vets seems to vary on their opinions of human analgesics for dogs, but I wouldn't do it without the knowledge/supervision of a veterinarian. I've seen a lot of dogs do very well on chondroitin/glucosamine supplements and I would say they are safer than analgesics--my bosses used to prescribe them right and left and we never saw side effects or weird drug interactions. They are more effective for some pets than others, just like everything else, but most dogs seemed to get at least a little benefit and most of them did quite a bit better.

A word of warning--if you do give ibuprofen and the pain persists and your vet wants to try some other medication, tell her what and how much of it you've been giving. You absolutely do not want to double-dose analgesics, and they can interact very badly with one another and with steroids (which some vets will also try for sore dogs). People here are right about the ulcers, and occasionally dogs will go into liver failure if they don't tolerate the drugs well.

*****

I don't want everyone here to think that vets just prescribe stuff to make money. I know the tendency is to assume that anything we can have, our pets can, too, but there are some things that genuinely are safer for humans than for pets. I had my share of ass-chewings by frustrated pet owners when I worked in veterinary hospitals (one of the reasons I'm no longer a vet tech), but animal medicine has a high overhead cost (those drugs are expensive wholesale, too) and requires a lot of personnel.

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: Bee
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 01:07 PM

We tried glucosamine, on vet's suggestion, but it didn't work for her - the vet said it worked for some and not others. She also had severe summer allergies, and had to use a steroidal compound every summer. Oddly, a few weeks on those and she would begin to act more like a male dog, leg cocking instead of squatting.

I've used the same vets for fifteen years, they are excellent people who, IMO, deserve to be paid well enough to pay off their student debts, keep an up to date clinic, and buy the instruments and technology they need. I've been in their back rooms, everything is clean, the animals are well cared for and checked on constantly, a couple quiet adopted cats wander freely, the techs are obvious animal lovers. My dog had two very serious surgeries there, and the incisions were small, neat, and never had one bit of infection.

It is hard when you don't have a lot of money, but our vet has always offered to take partial payments if that was necessary.

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: Mooh
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 01:49 PM

"rrvgfbgr4erfcvx", dog, translated...

Rosie The Wonder Dog (10 year old collie/springer/coyote) had brief problems this year with her hind quarters after a bad fall caused by tripping on a large hole in the ground. For weeks she had trouble getting up on things and I found myself even lifting her into the car. She was profoundly sad about this. The vet prescribed common every day aspirin for pain and discomfort, figuring the inflammation would subside with it. A few days later Rosie was much better, though it was a few weeks before she was able to jump at all. She's all better now, and happy.

Amazing stuff, aspirin.

Peace, Mooh.

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: LilyFestre
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 02:02 PM

Hmmm. I'm from a small town with a small town vet who would give such advice for the asking. Did you call the vet and ask if such a thing is suitable to give your dog? I've always had good luck with calling and asking about a home remedy before going in...limping dogs, kitties with eyes glued shut, etc. Also, I have asked the vet's aide....she's equally as helpful.

Sometimes though, you just have to take them to the vet. I know it's expensive but think of all they give you everyday...certainly worthy of a visit to the vet.

I hope your pup feels better soon.

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: Bee
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 02:14 PM

Damn, I miss my dog. That last trip to the vet is just indescribably bad.

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 04:05 PM

Glucosamine, homeopathic Rhus tox, works v well for arthritis and muscle shocks, but NOT iprupofen. if you give him that, you'll see him age before your eyes, honest.

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 04:35 PM

"Amazing stuff, aspirin."

Dangerous stuff too, especialy for cats.

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: catspaw49
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 05:01 PM

Ya' know I wasn't going to respond here but PLEASE don't do this. For dogs (not cats) aspirin is far safer but only in small doses. Both ibuprofen and acetomenaphin can be toxic in the wrong dosage......and it is easy to give too much. I noticed above you had calculated that 200/12 hours was okay. You're an attorney, not a Doc. Let me ask you if you can see the difference between one dose at 200 every 12 hours or one dose at 100 every 6 hours? Your best bet would be 50-75 every 6. It isn't just the total or cumalative strength, it is a matter of single dose size as well.

Try the glucosamine instead. It is available at reasonable pricing here in the States through most pet outlets. I give it to our oldest Weimaraner who is seeing the effects of his years and it has helped him considerably. The Weimie club is very big on it as well.

We live on one salary here but in the past 30 days we have spent almost $1000. on the animal population in this house. We took them, we wanted them, we love them, and we owe them. Yeah, I hate to spend the bucks too, but if you're not willing to do that, don't have them.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: bobad
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 05:02 PM

My vet always recommended enteric coated aspirin for my dogs. He says aspirin is very effective as an anti-inflammatory and analgesic and is well tolerated by dogs.

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 05:37 PM

"We took them, we wanted them, we love them, and we owe them. Yeah, I hate to spend the bucks too, but if you're not willing to do that, don't have them."

Very well said spaw .... our 2 rescued greyhounds are very much a part of our family. The sincerety, appreciation and joy they have given to us in return is overwhelming.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 05:39 PM

Hmm - We have a week to go before a decision becomes necessary, when the Metacam runs out. I think I might look up aspirin a bit too - I know it has all sorts of wonderful side effects (as well as stomah ulcers) in humans.

If anything can give Ben a stomach ulcer I will be amazed.

If you look closely you will see that I did break down 200/12 to 100/6, and if you look at the link I found, you will also see that it calculates in 12s - much like the (potentially deadly) use of paracetomol for humans.

Incidentally, experience teaches I can usually double the recommended dose of analgesics in myself before I get any observable side effects - usually starting with the trots.

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: Hawker
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 05:39 PM

Ibuprofen also has the side effect of irritating the stomach and shouldbe given with or after food to help prevent damage to the lining of the stomach.
My dog had such painful hips he had difficulty walking and getting on a chair. The vet gave him metacam, and Glucosamine. This worked, but Metacam can have side effects, I was recommended a magnetic collar by a friend, and, though sceptical - it was £30 and I was spending that and more a month on metacam and glucosamine (buy your glucosamine yoursaelf, not from the vet - it's cheaper!)I bought one. I kid you not, within 15 minutes of putting on the magnetic collar, he was running around like a puppy, he ran right up the stairs - something he had not been able to do for a good while. Three years on and he is still able to get up the stairs and onto the chairs! He no longer takes the metacam or the glucosamine, and is a happy healthy dog. I'm not saying it will work for your dog, but its certainly worth a try - and its not that expensive - I bought a Bioflow collar, they offer a 90 day money back guarantee if you dont think it has worked, they will refund your money less a 15% handling charge. I am sending healing thoughts to your dog and would urge caution with administering medication yourself. I am not a vet but worked as a pharmacologist for many years, so I do know a little about the harm various drugs can do.
Regards, Lucy

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: Mooh
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 09:20 PM

Spaw & Guest...Let me clarify. The aspirin we gave Rosie was the "baby" dose, half as often as the vet suggested, as I am personally very suspicious of drugs, and Rosie had never had drugs before (other than when she was fixed). It worked.

Peace, Mooh.

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: bobad
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 09:24 PM

Mooh, with all respect, it is better to be informed rather than suspicious of drugs.

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: catspaw49
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 11:42 PM

No problem Mooh........I figured as much.

Dogs can take many of the same meds we do but the way it acts upon their systems versus ours can lead to trouble. Light dosage on aspirin has proven to be effective. The problem with other anti-inflammatories is that the quantity of the dose given may be too strong at one time for their system, especially kidneys, to handle. The problem THEN with the renal system is that it may be too late before you find out.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: Ebbie
Date: 13 Dec 06 - 12:59 AM

Isn't Mudcatter JenEllen a vet?

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: GUEST,Julia in Northumberland
Date: 13 Dec 06 - 04:40 AM

Richard:

I too have elderly collies, one a lab cross. We have a large bottle of Metacam on the shelf, not being used due to its interference with other illnesses (it makes kidney conditions worse). You can have it if its any use.

If you would like it, PM me or send an email to julia(dot)say(at)nspipes.co.uk with an address to send it to.

Hope this helps

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: Zany Mouse
Date: 13 Dec 06 - 05:01 AM

Richard: It won't cost you £8 a day as repeat prescriptions (collected WITHOUT dog in tow) are considerably cheaper.

As to the hit and miss system of just taking advice from non-vets ... well, poor Ben!

Not all vets are wonderful so if you're not happy, then change. I've had good and bad vets but would NEVER trust my gorgeous Maxi to hotch-potch, albeit well intentioned, advice. He's far too precious.

Good luck with finding good help for Ben

Rhiannon

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: Mooh
Date: 13 Dec 06 - 08:54 AM

bobad...With respect returned in kind, it is better to be informed AND suspicious of drugs, as I was. The vet thought I was overly cautious but said it would work, and it did.

Suspicion aside, I didn't search out a "natural" remedy, and now I wonder if there is one, and what might have been used prior to today's drugs. A'Googling I go...

Peace, Mooh.

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 13 Dec 06 - 06:55 PM

Thank you Julia - let's wait and see. Once I have finished the week on the metacam I have, give it a couple of days. If the limp returns there is a problem, and the question is then what it is. If it doesn't return, all well and good.

If the problem is, as I suspect, hip dysplasia (he is half lab) then (a) an x-ray at £100 will be needed to confirm and (b) he will probably need long-term something, maybe Metacam, maybe glucosamine, maybe a cheap alterantive.

If it's arthritus (a) I'm not sure what test will be needed to confirm and (b) (b) he will probably need long-term NSAID, maybe Metacam, maybe glucosamine, maybe a cheap alterantive - there is sod all you can do about arthritus except witchcraft like copper bangles.

If it's something else it may be operable at huge expense.

Damn dogs. And damn the cat too, he costs me megabucks for his regular Mercazole for his thyroid and the occasional bloood tests to cehck the dose.

I didn't want any of them! Step daughter brought us two cats while hse was between flats about 18 years ago and only one ever moved out (and not back to her). Daughter watched ScoobyDoo and grizzled for weeks until she got a Gweat Dane. Late Wife said Dane needed company and stropped until we got it a playmate. Bah.

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: number 6
Date: 13 Dec 06 - 07:48 PM

glucosamine ... can't find a cheaper remedy for the pet than that ... $8.00 cdn for 358 500mg capsules ... Hell, I spend more on set of guitar strings than that !!

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: GUEST,Julia in Northumberland
Date: 14 Dec 06 - 07:11 AM

I think you'll need to leave it more like a week for the Metacam to wear off, if yours is anything like our two.

I spoke to a vet friend last night. There is a cheaper (because generic) alternative to Metacam - the ingredient is called Carprofen (?sp), it's usually sold as Dimidril (?sp - that's what I think the guy said)
Metacam doesn't come out of patent for another couple of years.

My friend confirmed that Ibuprofen is toxic to dogs, and paracetamol is also not a good idea. For short term pain relief, use a suitably scaled down dose of soluble aspirin.
(He also said don't give aspirin to cats under any circumstances, if anyone needs the info!)

Different species, different metabolisms!

Good luck

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: GUEST,Brian
Date: 14 Dec 06 - 09:49 AM

Gee. Ben might fool you and go ahead an get an ulcer or worse despite your trust in his tough innnards.
Be very cautious!

I've had a lab eat soda pop cans from the garbage bag - no effect. Tennis ball fragments, a paper clip (observed on x-ray done for a ligament tear).

My EXCELLENT vet of almost 20 years has seen it all (has a bag of stuff retrieved from retrievers....).

My first golden retriever got ahold of one of my barbed fly fishing hooks and pushed it right through his gums between the teeth and then comes running up happily to me.
The emergency vets had to anethesize him to remove it $$$$.
My regular vet said he NEVER would be able to get something thru that amount of tissue if he tried. Dog did it, no problemo!

My 2nd golden retriever ate a washing cloth - no apparent effect and it was observed to be expelled from the nether region intact.
Very 'oral' he would take many things for a taste treat and we were working hard to dissuade him.

Then at a later point he ate a sock, a thread loosened from it and twisted his bowel, and the resection surgery killed him as his intestines became twisted, necrotic and then he was dead. A wonderful just passed one year old. Very sad.

If I got the health care from MY human doctor that my vets give my dogs, well that would be something. They give TIME, consideration, etc. Real good docs.

On a lighter side:
My vet says he asked one client to bring in a stool sample.
Client comes in with a bar stool for him.
Yuk.

Subject: RE: BS: Vet's advice please -Ibruprofen for dog?
From: Scoville
Date: 14 Dec 06 - 10:36 AM

Yeah, we had a young hound come in once that had gotten into stuff and eaten a large catfish hook. We x-rayed him and sure, enough--large, barbed, catfish hook inside the dog. The dog had too much food in its stomach to operate immediately so we planned to stay after closing to do the surgery. That evening, the kennel technicians took him out for one last poop before he went under, and out came the hook. Amazing.

Also seen:
1. Dish rags/towels/socks/underwear
2. diapers (yuck)
3. an entire box of baby wipes (God-awful surgery as they were strung out through the full length of the intestines)
4. Wicker Easter basket pieces in a cat's stomach
5. small stuffed toy
6. cat litter and a big rubber gasket
7. toy arrow with a suction cup on the end
8. Barbie doll (boy, do those look weird on an x-ray)