BS: Stupid Thread

Subject: BS: Stupid Thread
From: Beer
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 10:35 PM

I was digging in my seldom used music books and came up with a song that was made popular by the great "Hank Williams" called "I'll Never Get Out of This World Alive". Well does going into space or landing on the moon throw out his theory in song/or otherwise?
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: Cluin
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 10:43 PM

No, because he sang "I'll Never..."

And he was right.

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: Beer
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 10:52 PM

Ooooh! Right on Cluin. I missed that.

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: frogprince
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 10:55 PM

What you may not realize, Beer, is that you've gotten into a question of theology and Biblical interpretation here. The writers of the Bible, as men of their time and place, just used "world" to refer to the total cosmos in which they existed; they had no idea that there was anywhere else to go to, other than heaven or hell, and no one could go to either while physically "alive".
More recently, some fundamentalists have screwed up the whole concept. I hve heard it said that man will never reach other planets, because the Bible says "The earth is given to man"; which supposedly means, by implication, that man will never be allowed to inhabit any other planet.
Hank, in this instance, was using "world" in the older, Biblical, sense.

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 10:55 PM

Betcha he doesn't get out of it dead, either.

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 10:56 PM

Another of Hank's song came to mind when I read your post Beer ...

Why don't you mind your own business
(Mind your own business)
If you mind your own business, you'll stay busy all the time.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: Cluin
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 11:03 PM

To borrow a gem of a mixed metaphor from Jean Chretien, you've opened a Pandora's Box of Worms here, Beer.

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 11:15 PM

I hve heard it said that man will never reach other planets, because the Bible says "The earth is given to man"; which supposedly means, by implication, that man will never be allowed to inhabit any other planet.

But the earth wasn't given to all those other critters that are here, and they're all here. So man can go, but will just be somebody's puppy on another planet?

Rub my tummy. I'll bark (or purr). Just cut out those nasty experiments. ¹It took me along time to get over the last visitors.


¹ Deference to those "other believers."

John

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: Beer
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 11:15 PM

Your right Cluin. And I'm pissing myself laughing at the responses so far. And I mean this in all the positive ways. Bill, If the wife and I are fussing brother that's alright.....After what you wrote Frogprince I agree where you are coming from.
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: chazkratz
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 11:27 PM

Hank also wrote "Move over, little dog, 'cause a big dog's movin' in." And that's just as relevant to this discussion as your post, Guest number 6.

Charles

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 11:30 PM

And it's just as relevant as your post chuck !!

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Dec 06 - 12:07 AM

If God (or a store owner) said to me, "this guitar is given to you", it would not mean that no one else can have any other guitar...and it would not mean that I cannot at some point have another guitar. ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: chazkratz
Date: 13 Dec 06 - 09:37 AM

Old sixy, I guess it's kind of stupid to argue about the relevance of certain posts to a BS "Stupid Thread," but I can be stupid as the best of 'em. But my post was relevant--at least--to your post: I had precedence, you had none; I had justification, you had squat.

Besides, my quote could be interpreted as a comment on the human imperialistic conceit that we have the right to go on and fuck up other planets, even before we have finished fucking ours up...an extension of the human imperialistic conceit that we Americans have the right to go fuck up other countries even while we are doing such a good job fucking up ours. Not that I had that in mind when posting, but now that I think of it, it's quite relevant, particularly in relation to the original quote I had in mind: "Son of a gun, we have big fun on the bayou."

Charles

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Dec 06 - 12:43 PM

and I thought this was going to be about silly string

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Dec 06 - 01:43 PM

I thought it was going to be about that new condom thread.

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: GUEST,KB
Date: 13 Dec 06 - 01:48 PM

Hank also sang "There's a Tear in my Beer"

One of my all-time favorites (the original, not the mocked up duet with Jr.)

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: IWTATBM
Date: 13 Dec 06 - 01:51 PM

This thread's not stupid enough for me - I'm sticking with the 85 billion thread. Goodbye.

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: Cluin
Date: 13 Dec 06 - 07:26 PM

I had a loose thread on my jeans.

So I grabbed it and tried to break it off.

But it pulled out a little more.

So I wrapped it around my finger and gave it a quick hard pull to break it off.

But it pulled out lots more of the thread.

Then my pants fell off.

And I tripped over them.

And my penis went into a naked lady that just happened to be there. Total accident.

I was just getting up when you came into the room, honey.

Honest! That's what happened.











... stupid thread!

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: number 6
Date: 13 Dec 06 - 09:17 PM

Jeeeezuz .. that song by Hank came to mind when I read your post Cluin ...

Why don't you mind your own business
(Mind your own business)
If you mind your own business, you'll stay busy all the time.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: frogprince
Date: 13 Dec 06 - 11:10 PM

Little Hawk, you just don't have the hang of proper conservative Biblical interpretation. It's not based on fallible human logic, it's based on inspired spiritual discernment. For another instance:

The Old Testament says you should never harness an oxen and a mule as a team. That obviously means that people of different races shouldn't marry one another. But, in recent years, lots of liberal, apostate, so-called "Christians" have tried to rationalize away this God given wisdom, thereby threatening to tear apart the very fabric of civilization.... DAMNED GODLESS LIBERALS! ...

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: number 6
Date: 13 Dec 06 - 11:20 PM

What's this about mules and oxen pulling plow shares and mixed marriages?? ... and accusing LH that he doesn't have the conservative Christian jam.

All LH was yacking about was some guitar store God owned and his taking advantage of a customer who suffered from GAS.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: chazkratz
Date: 14 Dec 06 - 02:41 AM

Frogprince said:

The Old Testament says you should never harness an oxen and a mule as a team. That obviously means that people of different races shouldn't marry one another.

I kind of doubt the Old Testament said that, _oxen_ being the plural of _ox_.

I think --in its corrected form--it means people of different sexes shouldn't be harnessed together. Lord, the trouble I get into harnessed to a woman...

Charles

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: frogprince
Date: 14 Dec 06 - 02:45 PM

Does this mean an oxen and a mules shouldn't be harnessed together either? When I'm fully awake, I actually do know the singular and plural forms for the critters. And I know so many bizarre fundamentalist Biblical interpretations, with simple language turned inside out to (supposedly) support notions and prejudices, that there's no way to say which example stands out.

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: Peace
Date: 14 Dec 06 - 03:11 PM

"The Old Testament says you should never harness an oxen and a mule as a team. That obviously means that people of different races shouldn't marry one another."

How misunderstood that is. It obviously means that people of opposite SEXES shouldn't 'get together'.

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: Peace
Date: 14 Dec 06 - 03:18 PM

Sorry, chazkratz, I hadn't read your post before I posted essentially the same thing. Great minds . . . .

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: SharonA
Date: 14 Dec 06 - 04:22 PM

frogprince, chazkratz, and Peace: You guys are forgetting one important thing: mules are virtually always sterile! So isn't the Old Testament metaphor warning the virile against marrying the sterile and faling to obey God's command (to Adam and Eve) to replenish the earth?

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: SharonA
Date: 14 Dec 06 - 04:23 PM

(Sorry, that should be "failing to obey...")

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: bobad
Date: 14 Dec 06 - 04:25 PM

SharonA the ox is a castrated male bull - not too virile - I can't figure that message out.

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: SharonA
Date: 14 Dec 06 - 04:34 PM

Bobad: After I posted I looked up the Bible verse (Deuteronomy 22:10) which actually says "an ox and an ass" -- the modern translations say "an ox and a donkey" -- so based on your point about the ox, maybe I had it backwards. Okay, then, the ox is the sterile one and the donkey is the virile one, but my point remains that the verse may well be talking about the failure to produce offspring.

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: number 6
Date: 14 Dec 06 - 04:34 PM

And mules are sterile.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: SharonA
Date: 14 Dec 06 - 04:36 PM

Mules are irrelevant; frogprince misquoted the verse.

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: number 6
Date: 14 Dec 06 - 04:39 PM

It's a stupid thread ... everything is irrelevant.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: bobad
Date: 14 Dec 06 - 04:39 PM

I think it means that if you don't have balls you shouldn't try getting it on with an ass.

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: Peace
Date: 14 Dec 06 - 04:39 PM

It must have pertained to eagles and whales.

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: number 6
Date: 14 Dec 06 - 04:41 PM

No ... it pertains to "we'll never get out of this world alive"

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: SharonA
Date: 14 Dec 06 - 04:58 PM

Back to the Biblical word "ass" for a moment (okay, so I'm anal-retentive): here's a site explaining the different ways in which the word is used in the Bible, and the different words from which the English word "ass" was translated. The verse from Deuteronomy is listed under the original word "Chamor", meaning "the male ass", so obviously the authors weren't talking about a sterile mule.

Holman Bible Dictionary -- Ass

Unfortunately, I can't find the same sort of dissection of the word "ox" on that site.

Anyway, according to frogprince's earlier post of 12 Dec 06 - 10:55 PM, I guess I should be trying to look up "world" or "earth" on that site.

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: Peace
Date: 14 Dec 06 - 05:12 PM

Yeah, but didn't Moses tie his ass to a tree and walk five miles? Like, that had to hurt, no?

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: bobad
Date: 14 Dec 06 - 05:19 PM

Not as much as JC's ass did as he rode into town on it.

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: kendall
Date: 14 Dec 06 - 07:38 PM

An ass and an ox are two different species of animal. Hitched together the ox could pull much more weight than the Ass.
As far as humans go, we are all the same species, and unlike asses and oxen we can interbreed regardless of color.
If God had wanted it otherwise there would be a barrier to keep the races separate.

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: Azizi
Date: 14 Dec 06 - 08:18 PM

"As far as humans go, we are all the same species, and unlike asses and oxen we can interbreed regardless of color."

How stupid to think otherwise.

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: Azizi
Date: 14 Dec 06 - 08:21 PM

But isn't this topic too serious for a stupid thread?

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: frogprince
Date: 14 Dec 06 - 08:27 PM

"Not as much as JC's ass did as he rode into town on it."
Absolutely true story: Thirty years ago, I read the "triumphal entry" story in a little conservative church on Palm Sunday. I was advised that this was the one scripture passage that they would rather not have read from the King James; they were uncomfortable with "that word".

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: Azizi
Date: 14 Dec 06 - 08:39 PM

I guess that's called a tangent.

I'd prefer to tango.

And speaking of tango, how many people remember the fake orange juice 'Tang'?

Hated it. Two thumbs down. *

* These phrases are from Damon Wayans and David Alan Grier's
"Men on Film" episodes [see information about the series and photo #3 on http://valdefierro.com/ilc02.html

**

Have I changed the subject yet?

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: Azizi
Date: 14 Dec 06 - 09:24 PM

I meant to say that those Men On Films episodes were segments of the series "In Living Color".

**

Btw, the discussion that some people had here about mating reminds me of a tangental part of the discussion that folks were having on the DeJah Thoris thread.

Poor DeJah, nobody's posted to her thread for a while.

Do you think people thought it was too stupid a subject?

Naw.

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: GUEST,KB
Date: 15 Dec 06 - 01:34 PM

This thread started as a fine example of stupidity but things have gone sadly awry. Come over to the 85 Billion thread, we never lose sight of our mission. I don't think there has been a worthwhile post made to it yet. I'll go refresh it for you now. I'll be waiting.

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: number 6
Date: 15 Dec 06 - 04:36 PM

I hope people aren'trying to be relevant in the 85 Billion thread ... if not I just might go there.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: Cluin
Date: 19 Dec 06 - 06:51 AM

The Boogey Man is made of snot!

Be afraid, kiddies...

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: Cluin
Date: 28 Jun 07 - 01:27 AM

Well, not THAT afraid.

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 28 Jun 07 - 02:06 AM

And mules are sterile.

Although exceptions are infrequently seen, this is not strictly true. The offspring of a mule's conception are almost always "degenerate" to the point of being useless, and are invariably "destroyed" at birth by competent breeders.

Exceptions to the general tendency toward sterility are more common in hinnys than in mules, but hinnys are considered so marginally useful that few of them are bred (except by rare accident), hence little opportunity among livestock handlers and breeders to know how useful any offspring might be.

File under useless information, hence suitability for a stupid thread that would have remained dead without the SPAM refresh.

John

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: Megan L
Date: 28 Jun 07 - 02:20 AM

Hmmm definitions.

Ox - big thick stupid creature
Mule - small stubborn stupid creature

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm Am I in trouble yet ;)

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: Cluin
Date: 28 Jun 07 - 02:21 AM

Mules ain't small.

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: Megan L
Date: 28 Jun 07 - 02:25 AM

You aint never met this little mule then :p

Subject: RE: BS: Stupid Thread
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 28 Jun 07 - 07:11 AM

"Yeah, but didn't Moses tie his ass to a tree and walk five miles? Like, that had to hurt, no?"

Not Moses! I think you'll find that was a guy named Balaam (sp?), Not that it matters a damn

Don T.