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Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall

Lizzie Cornish 03 Mar 07 - 06:51 AM
Blowzabella 03 Mar 07 - 07:09 AM
GUEST, Tom Bliss 03 Mar 07 - 07:47 AM
Folkiedave 03 Mar 07 - 08:05 AM
Ruth Archer 03 Mar 07 - 09:29 AM
The Borchester Echo 03 Mar 07 - 09:50 AM
GUEST,Brummie Brian 03 Mar 07 - 09:52 AM
GUEST,Can't get there soon enough 03 Mar 07 - 09:53 AM
Ruth Archer 03 Mar 07 - 09:57 AM
Ruth Archer 03 Mar 07 - 10:00 AM
Alec 03 Mar 07 - 10:02 AM
GUEST,Keith 03 Mar 07 - 10:05 AM
GUEST,Liam 03 Mar 07 - 10:44 AM
GUEST,Shortdog 03 Mar 07 - 12:08 PM
Surreysinger 03 Mar 07 - 12:51 PM
The Borchester Echo 03 Mar 07 - 01:21 PM
GUEST,Ralphie 03 Mar 07 - 01:31 PM
DMcG 03 Mar 07 - 01:33 PM
GUEST,Terry McDonald 03 Mar 07 - 01:39 PM
Folkiedave 03 Mar 07 - 02:00 PM
Ruth Archer 03 Mar 07 - 02:07 PM
DMcG 03 Mar 07 - 02:28 PM
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Dave the Gnome 03 Mar 07 - 02:42 PM
GUEST,The Informer 03 Mar 07 - 03:18 PM
Ruth Archer 03 Mar 07 - 05:27 PM
GUEST,Uncle Albert 03 Mar 07 - 07:30 PM
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GUEST,Uncle Albert 03 Mar 07 - 10:41 PM
Ruth Archer 04 Mar 07 - 05:36 AM
GUEST,Tom Bliss 04 Mar 07 - 05:38 AM
BusyBee Paul 04 Mar 07 - 05:42 AM
GUEST,Keith 04 Mar 07 - 05:58 AM
GUEST,Tom Bliss 04 Mar 07 - 08:08 AM
The Borchester Echo 04 Mar 07 - 08:16 AM
GUEST,Tom Bliss 04 Mar 07 - 08:50 AM
Lizzie Cornish 04 Mar 07 - 09:17 AM
GUEST,Keith 04 Mar 07 - 09:18 AM
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Subject: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Lizzie Cornish
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 06:51 AM

Hi :0)

Anyone else going to see them this Easter?

Many of you may like to follow the run-up to their 3rd sell out gig at the biggest villlage hall in the country by taking up this offer from The Western Morning News:

Western Morning News and Show of Hands


Hopefully Mudcat will allow this thread to stay up here where it belongs, despite the efforts of certain members of Mudcat to turn it into yet another chaotic thread.

Suppression does not belong on here, just as it does not belong on the BBC board either. The more that people give in to it, the more those who seek to do it think they have won.

I would also like to take this opportunity to point out that I do not and will not take over other threads with 'recipes' or anything else.
Think how outraged some of you may feel if I had done that on a Nic Jones thread for instance, or any other thread that you may have started or are enjoying.

So...I'd ask the hypocrites to stay out of this thread. This is the only post I'll put in here, so you won't be able to wind me up any further I'm afraid.

The information I've posted on the link above, is for the many people who read Mudcat, who may well be interested in following up what is going to be happening in The Western Morning News, which is the major 'local' paper for all of Devon and Cornwall.

To anyone else who is going to see Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall, I very much hope you enjoy it. I know we all will.

Thanks


Lizzie :0)


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Blowzabella
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 07:09 AM

pmsl!!!!


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST, Tom Bliss
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 07:47 AM

Anyone got the video of the last AH bash? Anyone notice some over-excited prat - when the guys ask if anyone's from further afield than Sweden - shouting out, err 'Alderney.' I think that idiot should be banned from this years gig.

(Actually I can't go because I shall be in, err Alderney).


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Folkiedave
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 08:05 AM

Tom - I think you would be stepping down a dangerous route if you want to start banning idiots from Show of Hands gigs.


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 09:29 AM

You've got to feel sorry for them in that respect, Dave - surely it's not a route they've chosen for themselves!

Have I mentioned lately what excellent musicians I think they are?


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 09:50 AM

Dunno if you have but I have. Phil Beer is, anyway.
Pity about SoH.
Aren't the Watersons doing a RAH gig soon?
Now that's worth going to.


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Brummie Brian
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 09:52 AM

I'm seeing Phil & Steve twice at Easter.

Ain't I the lucky one!

Got tickets for the 'Road to the Albert Hall' show in Fareham on Good Friday.

Staying at the Fareham Easter Festival on Saturday for Kate Rusby and John Tams then hopping on a train to London for the Albert Hall show on Sunday.

Should be a great weekend.


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Can't get there soon enough
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 09:53 AM

It will be our third time of seeing SOH at RAH. This year may be the best yet. Anyone know who is on with them this time round? It only mentions 'special guests' on their site. Take no notice of detractors on here LC - SOH have risen far above petty minded comments of bitter people -


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 09:57 AM

Phil Beer is indeed. And he's nice to small children.

The Waterson's RAH gig, A Mighty River of Song, is on the 12th of May. Let's hope all the family are feeling fighting fit by then! It also includes guest appearances by just about everyone the Watersons have ever met.

http://watersoncarthy.com/images/alberthall.pdf

I got my tickets a few weeks ago - really looking forward to it.


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 10:00 AM

Oh look - Lizzie's talking to herself again!

*waves at Can't get there soon enough*

Hi, Lizzie!


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Alec
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 10:02 AM

How many are going from Blackburn,Lancashire?


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Keith
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 10:05 AM

"Anyone know who is on with them this time round? It only mentions 'special guests' on their site"

Tom Robinson let slip that he and Martyn Joseph would be appearing on stage, I presume for some sort of reprise of Faith, Folk & Anarchy. Seth Lakeman won't be, because he is topping the bill at Fareham Folk Festival that night.


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Liam
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 10:44 AM

>>The Waterson's RAH gig, A Mighty River of Song, is on the 12th of May<<

A lot of seats available on that Watersons one still too. Every seating area still seems to be available on the RAH website.

I would have thought that Bush Hall would have been a better sized venue for the likely demand for the Watersons.


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Shortdog
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 12:08 PM

Not surprised there are plenty of tickets available for Waterson Carthy at RAH. Most disappointed at a very amateurish show called Frost and Fire. The Mummers play was enough to make our beer curdle.


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Surreysinger
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 12:51 PM

"Oh look - Lizzie's talking to herself again!

*waves at Can't get there soon enough*"
Funny you should say that Ruth! I was just thinking the same thing!!

Shortdog - have to say I'm surprised at your comment re Frost and Fire. I went with two friends who are not folkies, and they were both extremely impressed by the whole evening, and even specifically mentioned the Mummers play as being great fun and well presented. Maybe the particular evening you saw was a bit down? I went to the Farnham gig, and enjoyed myself far more than I had actually expected to - in fact I would really quite have liked to have had the chance to go a second time. The whole thing fizzed with enthusiasm and good rapport with the audience... in fact when I was handing out badges and flyers with the words on at the start there were two punters there who had seen it the day before in Basingstoke, and had been so enthused that they had to try and get tickets for the Farnham presentation.... so I wasn't alone in thinking it was good!! Sadly I can't make it to the Albert Hall gig, as I shall be elsewhere in London for the Keith Summers Festival (same weekend).


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 01:21 PM

All routes lead to the King & Queen for the Keith Summers bash.
It's always the most amazing music.
Keith must be well pissed off that it's his memorial and he can't be there himself.


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 01:31 PM

Have to say that the Keith Summers memorial bash sounds more welcoming.
I presume that Mrs Route has never heard of Keith...Ah Well.


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: DMcG
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 01:33 PM

Not surprised there are plenty of tickets available for Waterson Carthy at RAH. Most disappointed at a very amateurish show called Frost and Fire. The Mummers play was enough to make our beer curdle.

I must admit I had somewhat similar feelings when I saw "Frost and Fire". Musically, it was excellent, but everything else seemed very ... well, amateurish doesn't quite get it either - I've seen many mummers' plays (and other plays) by amateurs which were excellent. F&F was under-rehearsed, certainly. Self-indulgent, maybe?

I saw it very early in the tour (Dartford); maybe that was a factor.

But I've still bought tickets for the Watersons at Albert Hall in the hope F&F was some weird abberation!


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Terry McDonald
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 01:39 PM

Saw Frost and Fire, with my non folky middle son, at Frome. We both thought it was a really good show. He bought the album the next day, and (to my surprise) the Devil's Interval album as well.


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Folkiedave
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 02:00 PM

Then that is excellent taste by your son, and I should keep him going down that route.


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 02:07 PM

I missed the first half of F&F, due to driving round Nottingham like a loon for over an hour searching for a very well hidden venue (note to self: SAT NAV!). The half I saw was smashing. The DI added a really lovely dimension.

The Watersons have a huge following nationally, and people will travel for this gig. It's much more than just the Watersons, for a start - every permutation they've ever played in seems to be lined up, so it's an all-star evening.

It's still over two months away. If it were two weeks away, I could see the folk-rock doom and gloom merchants' point. As a venue manager, I certainly wouldn't be worried at this stage.


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: DMcG
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 02:28 PM

Unless the RAH online booking system is playing silly games, it looks like it is near to sold out already. If you try the 'choose you own seat' option you can see what's available in some detail (assuming, as I say, its not trying to pretend that more have been sold than really have, to please some marketing guru!)


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: DMcG
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 02:30 PM

Oops! 'It' is of course referring to the Watersons booking, not the 'Show of Hands'.


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 02:42 PM

How many are going from Blackburn,Lancashire?

10,000? Or is that holes in..?

:D


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,The Informer
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 03:18 PM

To DMcG - You're correct. The Show of Hands show at the Royal Albert Hall is almost sold-out and I hear their show at Fareham on Good Friday is heading the same way.

To GUEST Keith - You're on the right track with your forecasts for Albert Hall guests. As you say Seth Lakeman can't be with Phil & Steve at the Albert Hall on Sunday as he's at the Fareham Easter Festival that night but as SoH are also at Fareham on the Friday who's to say Seth won't join them onstage then?


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 05:27 PM

D McG was referring to the Watersons gig, actually, which would also appear to be almost sold out.


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Uncle Albert
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 07:30 PM

Sorry to correct you Ruth but...

You have to remember it's a very strange situation at the Albert Hall as many seats are initially reserved for debenture holders.

In addition seats are sometimes released in blocks. Seats that may appear 'sold' on the 'choose your own seat' option may not have been released for sale at all yet.

Looking at the 'choose your own seat' option which is what DMcG did gives a very inaccurate impression regarding the number of seats actually sold.

A gig that may "appear to be almost sold out" could, in truth, be anything but.


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: AlexB
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 08:25 PM

I don't see how you are correcting Ruth at all. If she had said they are almost sold out, maybe. However she said "it would [also] appear to be almost sold out." Just because those seats may not have been released for sale, it doesn't alter what it looks like, just whether what it looks like is accurate.


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Uncle Albert
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 10:41 PM

Errrrrrr

I think you're confusing the confusion Alex.


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 05:36 AM

Unless you have hard evidence to the contrary, Uncle Albert - ie, you work for the RAH or Mrs Casey music - it would appear from the evidence available that the Waterson's Albert Hall gig is almost sold out.


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Tom Bliss
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 05:38 AM

My post above was open to misinterpretation - the idiot in question is called Tom (in case you thought I was being cruel to dumb animals). By the way my great great grandfather Alfred Hayes, the Impressario, was a partner in the RAH, and his seats are still in the family. They are managed by my sister as a little family business so if anyone can't get a seat, mail me on tom at slipjig do co dot uk and I'll see if they're all sold yet. (That goes for Watersons too)


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: BusyBee Paul
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 05:42 AM

Thread creep!


Well, I will be at the SoH gig at the Albert Hall, along with friends from my part of the world (Lincs). And we'd be mighty pleased if there is a Faith, Folk and Anarchy reprise!.

Deirdre


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Keith
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 05:58 AM

"...we'd be mighty pleased if there is a Faith, Folk and Anarchy reprise!".

The rumour is that Faith, Folk & Anarchy may do a full "Christmas" reunion show in December 2007. That would be great, if true.


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Tom Bliss
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 08:08 AM

It seems we do have tickets for Show of Hands. Lightly less than the normal rate if anyone's interested. tom at slipjig dot co dot uk

(nb - pro artist not tout)!


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 08:16 AM

Hey, what about the Kaiser Chiefs on 30 March and The Who on 31st?
They're sold out.
(Just trying to help Tom's sister's business, you understand . . . )


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Tom Bliss
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 08:50 AM

Thanks D - actually she can always send unsold seat back to the office, and they usually go (though RAH takes a percentage of course - which people who buy from us - friends, usually can save). The RAH reserves all seats for big money spinners like the Who. Sadly I don't myself own a seat - though all my cousins and sibings do. (I'm afraid I wasn't as QUITE as well-behaved in my youth as I might have been)!

Watersons haven't arrived yet. Seats are all stalls near the back on the right as you look from the stage.


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Lizzie Cornish
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 09:17 AM

FAITH, FOLK & ANARCHY

The Cold Heart Of England is on there....SUPERB SONG!



PS...NO-ONE is having my ticket!

:0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0)


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Keith
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 09:18 AM

I understand the hire charge for the "exclusive let" where you get all 5000 seats in the RAH is about twice the charge for the "normal" 4000. That's why most acts just book the hall the "cheap" way.

I saw The Who live last summer in a 4500 seat big top in Liverpool. Still awesomely good. Funnily enough, the new Kaiser Chiefs album is on my CD player as I type.

There are alot of good gigs at the RAH coming up. 2 nights of Noel Gallagher solo at end March (those all sold in an hour apparently)plus Ray Davies in May too. Always a superb night with Ray. Especially for Steve Knightley, Don McLean is playing either one or two nights there in the Autumn...


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 10:26 AM

I'd like to go to the Kaiser Chiefs gig, actually. I really like them - they make me laugh.

My seats for the Watersons are down on the flat bit. Have you much experience of the RAH, Tom? Are these good seats in terms of sight lines and acoustics?


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Keith
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 10:39 AM

Oh the arena area is fine. I sat four rows back from the front for the last Show of Hands RAH gig in 2001. The seats there are a bit narrow though. My chair tried to get up with me for every standing ovation, and there were about 4 of those. So this April I've gone for the stalls, where I undertand the horizontally challenged are better provided for.


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 10:41 AM

I thing we're in something like row 12. I'm hoping it's not too far from the stage...


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Keith
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 11:09 AM

This'll give you some idea of layout etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vUqeDPZZ80


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 11:15 AM

Oh, Keith - very kind. But I don't think I can bring myself to sit through it.

But a very thoughtful gesture.


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Keith
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 11:18 AM

It's OK. It's a completely unaccompanied sea shanty and its mostly Fishermens Friends you hear. You really won't need those pins I assure you.


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 11:21 AM

that sounds more the thing, Keith - I'll give it a go!

It's the 80s folk-rock thing they do that has me reaching for the pins...


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 11:28 AM

Well, very enjoyable that was - thanks, Keith!

And it gives a good feel of the venue - I reckon we must be about a third of the way back...that'll do.


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Lizzie Cornish
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 11:42 AM

Sorry Ruth...the 'guest' wasn't me. You is getting more than a little paranoid m'dear.

And of course I've been rumbled on the BBC. I went in as 'Where's Lizzie?' to start with, then changed to Elizabeth Cornwallis.... Great Big Grin smiley...I never make it too difficult...heck Elizabeth even told people to call her Lizzie and gave them a wink! ;0)

Mind you...I posted about Neil Young, The Gathering, and Songs of War..oh and I put the video on for 'Roots' for someone who was enquiring about it...All zapped.

Great to see that the BBC and their 'hunting pals' the Moaning Minnies, are so supportive of folk music and not into personal witch hunts. Kind of smacks of 'victimisation to me mind...but hey ho!

Now...who shall I be tomorrow? ;0) Excited smiley!

GREAT VIDEO KEITH!!!!!!   Oh I LOVE those Fishermens Friends!! I'd love it if they were at The Royal Albert Hall as well.....and I'm keeping everything crossed that Martyn Joseph and Tom Robinson are there as well....I've never seen Faith Folk & Anarchy so I'd feel very privileged to see them.

We're in a box..first row up..I'll wave to you Keith! :0) Wavey Smiley!

Oh..the acoustics used to be rotten wherever you sat in the hall as I remember...but that was a scarily LONG time ago. My friend's Dad had a Company box there, so we saw loads of gigs as I was growing up..for free..very lucky...Neil Diamond, Melanie, Rod Mckuen, Bert Kampfert (that was a strange evening for a teenager!!) ;0)...Shirley Bassey (magic!)

But seeing Show of Hands there and soaking up the atmosphere is going to be incredible!

I think Steve should ask his Beautiful Clare to marry him all over again too..Awwwwwwwww!


Lizzie :0)


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 11:45 AM

John the Baptist after torturing a thief
Looked up at his hero the Commander in Chief
And said "Tell me great hero, but please make it brief,
Is there a hole I can be sick in?"


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 11:55 AM

"They always say third time lucky,is that you."

Excellent - heckling that is not only grammatically poor, but makes no sense. You're not related to Scooby by any chance, are you?


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 12:02 PM

Good grief, SoH AND the MBS all in one thread.
Just as well Giok's digging that hole to be sick in.


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 12:04 PM

Have all Guests become not only illiterate but barking?


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Lizzie Cornish
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 12:05 PM

Oh nooooo...not another pain in the arss Moaning Minnie who insults people over their grammar! I'd suggest you talk to your pal The Countess about that Joanruth...We had many a long argument about that on the R2 board.

Tell me Ruth, why haven't you put your information about The Watersons in the er...thread entitled 'The Watersons At The RAH' ?
Anyone would think you're just trying to scupper, yet again, another Show of Hands thread...but I'm sure that's not the case at all....

Is it?

Great to see that the organiser of Loughborough Festival has such great respect for folk acts and for people who want to discuss particular musicians in a kind, uplifting and decent manner.

You'll notice that Show of Hands fans do NOT 'infiltrate' 'disrupt' and 'take over' the threads of any other musicians.....nor do they use their words to insult musicians either....

Are you sure you're organising the correct type of festival?


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 12:14 PM

Umm, I have discussed the Watersons on that thread. I've also discussed SoH on this thread (and said nice things). Anyone would think that you were just putting the name of my festival wherever you can in a petty, nasty and small-minded atttempt to try and discredit it, Mrs Route, adulteress and fantasist of Sidmouth.

Have you met your pretendy boyfriend yet? It's a hell of a thing to be divorcing your long-suffering husband for someone who lives 3000 miles away that you've never even met, but horses for courses, I guess.


Tellya what, if I run into poor old Mr R at Sidders this year, I hope he'll leet me buy him a pint to congratulate him getting shot of you, you nutcase.

"You'll notice that Show of Hands fans do NOT 'infiltrate' 'disrupt' and 'take over' the threads of any other musicians"

no, you infiltrate, disrupt and take ove rwhole WEBSITES with your endless repetitive witterings. You ruin dialogue and destroy communities wherever you rear your poisonous, empty head. That's why so many people despise you.


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 12:18 PM

Quote from LC in the first post of this thread:

This is the only post I'll put in here

So what happened? Short-term memory loss as a result of too many 'E's?


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Lizzie Cornish
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 12:35 PM

Hmmm...Ruth I think you're showing your festival and yourself just slightly in the wrong light again m'dear.

As I said, Show of Hands fans don't behave in the way you choose to. Hope you enjoy your concert and your festival though.

I saw The Watersons at Siddy this year and very much enjoyed them.


Sorry Countess, 'twas Faith Folk & Anarchy that brought me back. I was thrilled to hear they might be there. I'm just listening to The Flood as I type this...and I have to say, that I'm very glad to be back in here too, else I'd have missed that Fishermen's Friends video that Keith put in...


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 12:35 PM

As I said above, Guests are becoming completely barking as well as illiterate.
This is what comes of keeping children at home for so-called home education.
As well as being wholly unsocialised, they are unable to form adverbs correctly.
'So commonly', Guest.
And yes, it is hard not to despise SoH's neglect of musicality when those who have long known their past work (as opposed to LC who latched on to them approximately 5 minutes ago) are aware of how much better they have been before they stopped bothering.
As for Ruth's post of 12.14 (which I have no doubt will have vanished before I finish typing), I have kept a copy and will repost if necessary, as every word about LC's behaviour is true.


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Blowzabella
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 12:36 PM

Lizzie, I'm confused ... if someone is an event organiser - or programmes a venue, do you feel that shouldn't have the right to have an opinion about a performer - on or off duty?

As far as I'm aware, Ruth hasn't been on here pushing anything professionally. I don't think she has even really mentioned Loughborough. She is using a nom de plume. This is a past-time pursuit, so it is reasonable to assume that the posts here contain her own personal opinions which may, or may not, coincide with those she expresses professionally. It also suggests that she wished to be separate from that role, when on here. There are many reasons why this might be.

Or, do you think that event organisers should have no outlet for chat in a forum such as this?

(And you know I have stuck up for you many times Lizzie but I don't agree with you here, at all, I'm afraid.)


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Lizzie Cornish
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 12:39 PM

>>>And yes, it is hard not to despise SoH's neglect of musicality when those who have long known their past work (as opposed to LC who latched on to them approximately 5 minutes ago) are aware of how much better they have been before they stopped bothering.<<<

Ah yes..but that's only your opinion Sweetums.... :0)

Shame you're not coming, we could of shared a box together! ;0)


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Lizzie Cornish
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 12:57 PM

Hello Blowz... :0)

Hope you're well...

No, this is about something which took place on the BBC board a while back now..and believe you me...there was much pushing of a certain festival and a certain festival organiser at the time, by said festival organiser over and over. There was also a very unnecessary remark made by said festival organiser about Show of Hands. I took umbridge over it and dared to say so...and World War 3 was declared after that I'm afraid....

It wasn't about SoH particularly, but about people having some sense of what is right and wrong when they are festival organisers, purely in my opinion. I merely think there is a line you should not cross on messageboards, particularly the BBC, about insulting artists, whoever those artists may be, especially if the festival itself may at times hire those artists and make money because of them, in order for their festivals to be successful.

It's about honour and a sense of integrity I guess.

Purely my opinion though, but ever since, the insults, as you can see, have been getting far, far worse.

I refuse to go down to those levels though.

And now...I'm away back to The Royal Albert Hall and 'South Australia'

I wish those Fishermen's Friends had a Myspace page...and Blowz...that reminds me!

WHEN are The New Scorpion Band going to get one? It would be a great idea! Help to spread the word etc....I've got them on my site, just as a link, but if they had their own page...magic things would happen! Myspace is that kind of place...it's AMAZING! Tell them they SO have to get one!


Lizzie :0)


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 12:57 PM

we could of shared a box together

Don't you mean 'we could HAVE . . . '
However, in order to discover whether the company would include Mr Route or the possibly mythical Sam, it might almost be worth attending.
Though not for long.


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 01:02 PM

It's about honour and a sense of integrity I guess

That, from Mrs Route, adulteress of Sidmouth, makes Mr W Gates resemble a beggar on the streets of Calcutta.


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 01:04 PM

Umbridge Lizzie, I didn't know you were an Archers fan.
G


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 01:04 PM

Thank you, Blowzabella. I appreciate you expressing your feelings about this.

The thing I've never been able to understand is that Lizzie "outs" people all the time - it's a power thing, and she has often in the past used this as a weapon of intimidation.Yet she hides behind a fictitious name herself.

When people started treating her in-kind, and letting slip hints about her real identity and personal life, she went mental and cried "foul" to the moderators.

So why is it okay for her to do it to other people, but not for them to do it back to her? She hasn't even got a professional life to be discredited.


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 01:06 PM

You mean she's only an amateur?
G


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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 01:07 PM

For the record, I have never "pushed" my work on any other message board any more than i have here on Mudcat. So you can judge for yourself how appropriate Mrs Route's constant references to it are.


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