Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall

Subject: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Lizzie Cornish
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 06:51 AM

Hi :0)

Anyone else going to see them this Easter?

Many of you may like to follow the run-up to their 3rd sell out gig at the biggest villlage hall in the country by taking up this offer from The Western Morning News:

Western Morning News and Show of Hands


Hopefully Mudcat will allow this thread to stay up here where it belongs, despite the efforts of certain members of Mudcat to turn it into yet another chaotic thread.

Suppression does not belong on here, just as it does not belong on the BBC board either. The more that people give in to it, the more those who seek to do it think they have won.

I would also like to take this opportunity to point out that I do not and will not take over other threads with 'recipes' or anything else.
Think how outraged some of you may feel if I had done that on a Nic Jones thread for instance, or any other thread that you may have started or are enjoying.

So...I'd ask the hypocrites to stay out of this thread. This is the only post I'll put in here, so you won't be able to wind me up any further I'm afraid.

The information I've posted on the link above, is for the many people who read Mudcat, who may well be interested in following up what is going to be happening in The Western Morning News, which is the major 'local' paper for all of Devon and Cornwall.

To anyone else who is going to see Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall, I very much hope you enjoy it. I know we all will.

Thanks


Lizzie :0)

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Blowzabella
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 07:09 AM

pmsl!!!!

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST, Tom Bliss
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 07:47 AM

Anyone got the video of the last AH bash? Anyone notice some over-excited prat - when the guys ask if anyone's from further afield than Sweden - shouting out, err 'Alderney.' I think that idiot should be banned from this years gig.

(Actually I can't go because I shall be in, err Alderney).

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Folkiedave
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 08:05 AM

Tom - I think you would be stepping down a dangerous route if you want to start banning idiots from Show of Hands gigs.

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 09:29 AM

You've got to feel sorry for them in that respect, Dave - surely it's not a route they've chosen for themselves!

Have I mentioned lately what excellent musicians I think they are?

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 09:50 AM

Dunno if you have but I have. Phil Beer is, anyway.
Pity about SoH.
Aren't the Watersons doing a RAH gig soon?
Now that's worth going to.

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Brummie Brian
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 09:52 AM

I'm seeing Phil & Steve twice at Easter.

Ain't I the lucky one!

Got tickets for the 'Road to the Albert Hall' show in Fareham on Good Friday.

Staying at the Fareham Easter Festival on Saturday for Kate Rusby and John Tams then hopping on a train to London for the Albert Hall show on Sunday.

Should be a great weekend.

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Can't get there soon enough
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 09:53 AM

It will be our third time of seeing SOH at RAH. This year may be the best yet. Anyone know who is on with them this time round? It only mentions 'special guests' on their site. Take no notice of detractors on here LC - SOH have risen far above petty minded comments of bitter people -

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 09:57 AM

Phil Beer is indeed. And he's nice to small children.

The Waterson's RAH gig, A Mighty River of Song, is on the 12th of May. Let's hope all the family are feeling fighting fit by then! It also includes guest appearances by just about everyone the Watersons have ever met.

http://watersoncarthy.com/images/alberthall.pdf

I got my tickets a few weeks ago - really looking forward to it.

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 10:00 AM

Oh look - Lizzie's talking to herself again!

*waves at Can't get there soon enough*

Hi, Lizzie!

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Alec
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 10:02 AM

How many are going from Blackburn,Lancashire?

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Keith
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 10:05 AM

"Anyone know who is on with them this time round? It only mentions 'special guests' on their site"

Tom Robinson let slip that he and Martyn Joseph would be appearing on stage, I presume for some sort of reprise of Faith, Folk & Anarchy. Seth Lakeman won't be, because he is topping the bill at Fareham Folk Festival that night.

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Liam
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 10:44 AM

>>The Waterson's RAH gig, A Mighty River of Song, is on the 12th of May<<

A lot of seats available on that Watersons one still too. Every seating area still seems to be available on the RAH website.

I would have thought that Bush Hall would have been a better sized venue for the likely demand for the Watersons.

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Shortdog
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 12:08 PM

Not surprised there are plenty of tickets available for Waterson Carthy at RAH. Most disappointed at a very amateurish show called Frost and Fire. The Mummers play was enough to make our beer curdle.

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Surreysinger
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 12:51 PM

"Oh look - Lizzie's talking to herself again!

*waves at Can't get there soon enough*"
Funny you should say that Ruth! I was just thinking the same thing!!

Shortdog - have to say I'm surprised at your comment re Frost and Fire. I went with two friends who are not folkies, and they were both extremely impressed by the whole evening, and even specifically mentioned the Mummers play as being great fun and well presented. Maybe the particular evening you saw was a bit down? I went to the Farnham gig, and enjoyed myself far more than I had actually expected to - in fact I would really quite have liked to have had the chance to go a second time. The whole thing fizzed with enthusiasm and good rapport with the audience... in fact when I was handing out badges and flyers with the words on at the start there were two punters there who had seen it the day before in Basingstoke, and had been so enthused that they had to try and get tickets for the Farnham presentation.... so I wasn't alone in thinking it was good!! Sadly I can't make it to the Albert Hall gig, as I shall be elsewhere in London for the Keith Summers Festival (same weekend).

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 01:21 PM

All routes lead to the King & Queen for the Keith Summers bash.
It's always the most amazing music.
Keith must be well pissed off that it's his memorial and he can't be there himself.

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 01:31 PM

Have to say that the Keith Summers memorial bash sounds more welcoming.
I presume that Mrs Route has never heard of Keith...Ah Well.

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: DMcG
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 01:33 PM

Not surprised there are plenty of tickets available for Waterson Carthy at RAH. Most disappointed at a very amateurish show called Frost and Fire. The Mummers play was enough to make our beer curdle.

I must admit I had somewhat similar feelings when I saw "Frost and Fire". Musically, it was excellent, but everything else seemed very ... well, amateurish doesn't quite get it either - I've seen many mummers' plays (and other plays) by amateurs which were excellent. F&F was under-rehearsed, certainly. Self-indulgent, maybe?

I saw it very early in the tour (Dartford); maybe that was a factor.

But I've still bought tickets for the Watersons at Albert Hall in the hope F&F was some weird abberation!

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Terry McDonald
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 01:39 PM

Saw Frost and Fire, with my non folky middle son, at Frome. We both thought it was a really good show. He bought the album the next day, and (to my surprise) the Devil's Interval album as well.

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Folkiedave
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 02:00 PM

Then that is excellent taste by your son, and I should keep him going down that route.

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 02:07 PM

I missed the first half of F&F, due to driving round Nottingham like a loon for over an hour searching for a very well hidden venue (note to self: SAT NAV!). The half I saw was smashing. The DI added a really lovely dimension.

The Watersons have a huge following nationally, and people will travel for this gig. It's much more than just the Watersons, for a start - every permutation they've ever played in seems to be lined up, so it's an all-star evening.

It's still over two months away. If it were two weeks away, I could see the folk-rock doom and gloom merchants' point. As a venue manager, I certainly wouldn't be worried at this stage.

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: DMcG
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 02:28 PM

Unless the RAH online booking system is playing silly games, it looks like it is near to sold out already. If you try the 'choose you own seat' option you can see what's available in some detail (assuming, as I say, its not trying to pretend that more have been sold than really have, to please some marketing guru!)

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: DMcG
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 02:30 PM

Oops! 'It' is of course referring to the Watersons booking, not the 'Show of Hands'.

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 02:42 PM

How many are going from Blackburn,Lancashire?

10,000? Or is that holes in..?

:D

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,The Informer
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 03:18 PM

To DMcG - You're correct. The Show of Hands show at the Royal Albert Hall is almost sold-out and I hear their show at Fareham on Good Friday is heading the same way.

To GUEST Keith - You're on the right track with your forecasts for Albert Hall guests. As you say Seth Lakeman can't be with Phil & Steve at the Albert Hall on Sunday as he's at the Fareham Easter Festival that night but as SoH are also at Fareham on the Friday who's to say Seth won't join them onstage then?

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 05:27 PM

D McG was referring to the Watersons gig, actually, which would also appear to be almost sold out.

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Uncle Albert
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 07:30 PM

Sorry to correct you Ruth but...

You have to remember it's a very strange situation at the Albert Hall as many seats are initially reserved for debenture holders.

In addition seats are sometimes released in blocks. Seats that may appear 'sold' on the 'choose your own seat' option may not have been released for sale at all yet.

Looking at the 'choose your own seat' option which is what DMcG did gives a very inaccurate impression regarding the number of seats actually sold.

A gig that may "appear to be almost sold out" could, in truth, be anything but.

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: AlexB
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 08:25 PM

I don't see how you are correcting Ruth at all. If she had said they are almost sold out, maybe. However she said "it would [also] appear to be almost sold out." Just because those seats may not have been released for sale, it doesn't alter what it looks like, just whether what it looks like is accurate.

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Uncle Albert
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 10:41 PM

Errrrrrr

I think you're confusing the confusion Alex.

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 05:36 AM

Unless you have hard evidence to the contrary, Uncle Albert - ie, you work for the RAH or Mrs Casey music - it would appear from the evidence available that the Waterson's Albert Hall gig is almost sold out.

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Tom Bliss
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 05:38 AM

My post above was open to misinterpretation - the idiot in question is called Tom (in case you thought I was being cruel to dumb animals). By the way my great great grandfather Alfred Hayes, the Impressario, was a partner in the RAH, and his seats are still in the family. They are managed by my sister as a little family business so if anyone can't get a seat, mail me on tom at slipjig do co dot uk and I'll see if they're all sold yet. (That goes for Watersons too)

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: BusyBee Paul
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 05:42 AM

Thread creep!


Well, I will be at the SoH gig at the Albert Hall, along with friends from my part of the world (Lincs). And we'd be mighty pleased if there is a Faith, Folk and Anarchy reprise!.

Deirdre

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Keith
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 05:58 AM

"...we'd be mighty pleased if there is a Faith, Folk and Anarchy reprise!".

The rumour is that Faith, Folk & Anarchy may do a full "Christmas" reunion show in December 2007. That would be great, if true.

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Tom Bliss
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 08:08 AM

It seems we do have tickets for Show of Hands. Lightly less than the normal rate if anyone's interested. tom at slipjig dot co dot uk

(nb - pro artist not tout)!

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 08:16 AM

Hey, what about the Kaiser Chiefs on 30 March and The Who on 31st?
They're sold out.
(Just trying to help Tom's sister's business, you understand . . . )

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Tom Bliss
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 08:50 AM

Thanks D - actually she can always send unsold seat back to the office, and they usually go (though RAH takes a percentage of course - which people who buy from us - friends, usually can save). The RAH reserves all seats for big money spinners like the Who. Sadly I don't myself own a seat - though all my cousins and sibings do. (I'm afraid I wasn't as QUITE as well-behaved in my youth as I might have been)!

Watersons haven't arrived yet. Seats are all stalls near the back on the right as you look from the stage.

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Lizzie Cornish
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 09:17 AM

FAITH, FOLK & ANARCHY

The Cold Heart Of England is on there....SUPERB SONG!



PS...NO-ONE is having my ticket!

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Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Keith
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 09:18 AM

I understand the hire charge for the "exclusive let" where you get all 5000 seats in the RAH is about twice the charge for the "normal" 4000. That's why most acts just book the hall the "cheap" way.

I saw The Who live last summer in a 4500 seat big top in Liverpool. Still awesomely good. Funnily enough, the new Kaiser Chiefs album is on my CD player as I type.

There are alot of good gigs at the RAH coming up. 2 nights of Noel Gallagher solo at end March (those all sold in an hour apparently)plus Ray Davies in May too. Always a superb night with Ray. Especially for Steve Knightley, Don McLean is playing either one or two nights there in the Autumn...

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 10:26 AM

I'd like to go to the Kaiser Chiefs gig, actually. I really like them - they make me laugh.

My seats for the Watersons are down on the flat bit. Have you much experience of the RAH, Tom? Are these good seats in terms of sight lines and acoustics?

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Keith
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 10:39 AM

Oh the arena area is fine. I sat four rows back from the front for the last Show of Hands RAH gig in 2001. The seats there are a bit narrow though. My chair tried to get up with me for every standing ovation, and there were about 4 of those. So this April I've gone for the stalls, where I undertand the horizontally challenged are better provided for.

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 10:41 AM

I thing we're in something like row 12. I'm hoping it's not too far from the stage...

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Keith
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 11:09 AM

This'll give you some idea of layout etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vUqeDPZZ80

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 11:15 AM

Oh, Keith - very kind. But I don't think I can bring myself to sit through it.

But a very thoughtful gesture.

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Keith
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 11:18 AM

It's OK. It's a completely unaccompanied sea shanty and its mostly Fishermens Friends you hear. You really won't need those pins I assure you.

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 11:21 AM

that sounds more the thing, Keith - I'll give it a go!

It's the 80s folk-rock thing they do that has me reaching for the pins...

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 11:28 AM

Well, very enjoyable that was - thanks, Keith!

And it gives a good feel of the venue - I reckon we must be about a third of the way back...that'll do.

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Lizzie Cornish
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 11:42 AM

Sorry Ruth...the 'guest' wasn't me. You is getting more than a little paranoid m'dear.

And of course I've been rumbled on the BBC. I went in as 'Where's Lizzie?' to start with, then changed to Elizabeth Cornwallis.... Great Big Grin smiley...I never make it too difficult...heck Elizabeth even told people to call her Lizzie and gave them a wink! ;0)

Mind you...I posted about Neil Young, The Gathering, and Songs of War..oh and I put the video on for 'Roots' for someone who was enquiring about it...All zapped.

Great to see that the BBC and their 'hunting pals' the Moaning Minnies, are so supportive of folk music and not into personal witch hunts. Kind of smacks of 'victimisation to me mind...but hey ho!

Now...who shall I be tomorrow? ;0) Excited smiley!

GREAT VIDEO KEITH!!!!!!   Oh I LOVE those Fishermens Friends!! I'd love it if they were at The Royal Albert Hall as well.....and I'm keeping everything crossed that Martyn Joseph and Tom Robinson are there as well....I've never seen Faith Folk & Anarchy so I'd feel very privileged to see them.

We're in a box..first row up..I'll wave to you Keith! :0) Wavey Smiley!

Oh..the acoustics used to be rotten wherever you sat in the hall as I remember...but that was a scarily LONG time ago. My friend's Dad had a Company box there, so we saw loads of gigs as I was growing up..for free..very lucky...Neil Diamond, Melanie, Rod Mckuen, Bert Kampfert (that was a strange evening for a teenager!!) ;0)...Shirley Bassey (magic!)

But seeing Show of Hands there and soaking up the atmosphere is going to be incredible!

I think Steve should ask his Beautiful Clare to marry him all over again too..Awwwwwwwww!


Lizzie :0)

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 11:45 AM

John the Baptist after torturing a thief
Looked up at his hero the Commander in Chief
And said "Tell me great hero, but please make it brief,
Is there a hole I can be sick in?"

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 11:55 AM

"They always say third time lucky,is that you."

Excellent - heckling that is not only grammatically poor, but makes no sense. You're not related to Scooby by any chance, are you?

Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 12:02 PM

Good grief, SoH AND the MBS all in one thread.
Just as well Giok's digging that hole to be sick in.