Knockholt 2007

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 06:09 PM

Hi Pete - you're on the wrong thread.

But thanks very much for the tee-shirt for my birthday!

Subject: RE: September Knockholt 2007
From: GUEST,Pete the Hat.
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 04:09 PM

Really good September 07 Knockholt,Well done to all Singers/players/cooks.Great stuff.

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: GUEST,Pete the hat to Richard Bridge
Date: 11 Aug 07 - 09:26 AM

Subject: Richard Bridge
From: GUEST,Pete the Hat.
Date: 11 Aug 07 - 09:25 AM

Richard I went to Camden Market again this week and the T. shirt you asked me to get you were in stock at last.£9.99P. I picked you up 1 in Black.but it is not.XXL.(Sold out) So I got you XL?

Re the size.

if you think XL is no good for you then I am sure I can pass The T shirt on to another Folk Mob club member has they are a popular shirt.

If you want me to hang on to it for you untill September Knockholt thats not a problem.I can think of no other way of getting it to you?

I am pleased to say that the Hidious Pink ones were not in stock.I am equally surprised ,they had sold out.

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: GUEST,Pete the Hat
Date: 07 Aug 07 - 12:48 PM

I got the Apple Mac because its great for Music it comes with a double Garage Band CD which is far better then anything I have ever found on Windows. Build up your own Loops and away you go.Every instument under the sun every type of music you can imagine. I burned of a copy of something I created this afternoon in country bluegrass i then run it into Itunes and burned it off and the sound is excellent.

Thanks for the above advice. I stick to burning off me own music.

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 07 Aug 07 - 03:36 AM

Yes, it's an infringement of copyright (UK), although following a recent review of the law of copyright the government is considering creating a "private use" or "format shifting" exemption - but even if it does it won't cover making copies for friends.

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: GUEST,Pete the hat.
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 08:51 PM

What are the laws for burning off retail CDs on too blank cds Re,Music and passing them on to friends for free?
I have been told this infringes copy write laws and other laws and is illegal.I do not wish to break the law but have a built in programe, toast, on the Apple Mac computer I have just perchased? Im some what baffled?

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: Girl Friday
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 07:59 PM

Mumblin' Len says "Pink is just the colour for camping - dearie!"

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: Girl Friday
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 07:56 PM

No-ooooo not pink dear - might get the sheep going. They went enough last September if you get my drift.

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 04:54 PM

Most kind. One in bright pink might be amusing too, the analogy being hardly circumspect.....

I am bigger than XL (in tee shirts) - XXL. Many thanks...

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: GUEST,Pete the Hat .R.Bridge.
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 04:11 PM

Richard You asked me at Knockholt if I would pick you up a T shirt with logo
                        Musician,
                   Looking for Groupies

I recently went to Camden market and discovered that these shirts are at present in short supply but will be back in circulation in the next couple of weeks hopefully in time for Knockholt 2.Sept.

The only color at present available is in bright pink for godsake,s so I left Camden empty handed.I shall return to camden again in a couple of weeks and if I find the above shirt in any decent colour in your size I will pick you one up an bring it to Knockholt in Sept. I have had a number of orders for this T Shirt,so I have not forgotten.

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 20 Jul 07 - 03:08 PM

Thanks Pete - the bloke who asked me to join a band playing "Travelling Wilbury's style" music has been quiet, but we'll see....

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: GUEST,Pete the hat. to R.B.
Date: 20 Jul 07 - 01:38 PM

Richard Bridge. You asked at Knockholt about the Travelling Wilburys.To which my ears pricked up. I gave you a couple of verses of Tweeter and the Monkey Man. And you said "That sounds good?
I noticed on satalite channel 10 today an advertisment that The Travelling Wilburys have now rereleased there 1st and 2nd Albams has a double CD.
This is fantastic because after there 1st release back in the 80s after a couple of years, one could only get the 1st albam has a American import. The 1st albam is much better then the 2nd. I shall rush out and buy A.S.A.P. For those who have not heard The Wilburys it is a great Line up and the music on the 1st albam is classic. I need to replace my original Wilbury CD because I have worn it down to wafer thin solely because its a great Albam.

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: GUEST,Pete the hat
Date: 20 Jul 07 - 01:15 PM

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: Girl Friday
Date: 18 Jul 07 - 12:06 PM

Mmmm! Looking forward to seeing them- more meat for the sheep and cranefly stew.

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: GUEST,David Attenbourgh
Date: 14 Jul 07 - 10:30 PM

There is a nonsense rumour,dating back donkeys years and I heard it mentioned this year at Knockholt that

1)Daddy longlegs are very poisionous spiders but there fangs are to small to bite humans,Really.

2)If you eat them then you will become very ill."Thanks for that Doctor.

3)That they have a nasty sting? ,RUBBISH.

There are two variaties of DADDY LONG LEGS.
The 1st is The Daddy long legs Mk 1(Harvest man)Round body 8.legs no spinners no web. (Veggie)Lives in long grass under logs.

The Daddy long legs MK 2.
Commonly known has

The Short Legged Daddy long legs(True

This is a spider with all the above and eats other insects and is found in cellers. toxiologists say there is no evidence re there venom is harmful to humans.Neither species stings.
So its all nonsense old wifes tales. etc.

I came across one poor lass at Knockholt who having heard this codswallop asked me to stand out side the porta loo while she had a whatever.Like I had now,t better to do? I told her not to be so daft and get on with it.

There,s another rumour that the Knockholt Sheep are so hungry they eat the MK1 Species in abundance,These Sheep after a while start to grow legs out the side of there bodies? More Folk Tales?

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: Dipsodeb
Date: 14 Jul 07 - 08:26 PM

There may be a private punch in someones tent! not mentioning anyones name! but they are very generous and may well share ;-)

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 14 Jul 07 - 07:26 PM

Ray, heating boils the alcohol off. What about ice lollies in stead?

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: GUEST,Girl Friday without cookie
Date: 14 Jul 07 - 03:36 PM

Would that be Red Sheep at Night - Peter's Delight ?

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: GUEST,Ray Meers.
Date: 14 Jul 07 - 03:23 PM

No more knockholt punch? No more slammers Saints preserve us.I will have to make a alcoholic stew( in one of me ovens.How about" Red Sheep that a lamb joint cooked in neat Vodka?

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: GUEST,woodsie
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 02:07 PM

Looking forward to September - hopefully some of the "traveling folk" singers/players will be joining us. As Richard said let's not go overboard about a few people who misbehaved on Saturday night. What about Friday night, was that not a super singaround? What about Wednesday and Thursday's beautiful weather what about Dave's sausages - I wouldn't miss it for all the tea in tescos!!!

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 08:38 AM

Let's not go overboard about this, eh? I think some of the biggest pissers brought their own (one at least I saw with litre bottles of cider) and by the end of Friday I could either play guitar or stand but not both at once, so it wasn't all down to invaders or juvies. The sinners I saw were the same bunch with whom I nearly got into a punch-up 3 or 4 years ago, and a certain young man (I think all know to whom I refer).

Knockholt without Debs south London leg-opener punch? Shame!

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: GUEST,Ray Meers. pth
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 05:51 PM

The open fire cooking at Knockholt is really catching on with great results like the Hog Roast.Sweet tin ovens,Crocks and fish tins.The Thursday night meal based on Eastean cruisine.To watch DK cook his huge sausage (WHICH WAS INDATE AND DID NOT BURN.) was remarkable.
Thanks to Caspar the dog who ran off with my sausages has soon has me back was turned.
Excellent Music great talent.Great fun.Roll on September.

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: Dipsodeb
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 05:24 PM

It's ok Pete it's all in hand. The offending people both lots have been banned and will not be at Knockholt in September.

The committe met last week and made this decision and also the decision that in future we will only make a nominal contribution to a bar in the form of a barrel of bitter and 1 of lager or some such beer. There will be no spirits provided! No more Knockholt Punch :-(

It's a shame so few have spoilt it for so many and made these decsions neccesary.

Debs

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: GUEST,PETE THE HAT.
Date: 09 Jul 07 - 04:32 PM

The Saturday night was somewhat dissapointing due to unnessesary
loudness and disrespect caused by non folk mob members who were invited.They were not all to blame ,One folk mob member who was pissed all day nearly fell on my guests guitar because he was so damned drunk he couldnt stand up.If he had smashed it there would have been hell to pay.
This behavior is not Knockholt if they wanna behave like that sod off to Glastonbury or Reading.Well done to Jim Radford who took control of the circle despite having people mauling and hanging all over him and interupting him during song. This kind of nonsense could really getout of hand and i suggest that concern should be shown for the future reguarding the above?

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 05 Jul 07 - 01:23 PM

Are you OK Rob - I didn't realise you had had a slightly excessively incendiary incident at Aylesford...?

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: GUEST,the prancing pyro
Date: 05 Jul 07 - 01:17 PM

YOU'LL NEVER BE A FISHERMAN (KEV) AND I SHALL NEVER BE A FOLKY
LOL
knockholt was great good laugh ever though vicky and i were only there for one night glad you liked the fire stuff keep an eye out for me at broadstairs
cheers rob

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: GUEST,woodsie
Date: 05 Jul 07 - 11:20 AM

We enjoyed your singing Kevin and hope you can make it again in September. Meanwhile Dave Kenningham has a few photos Dave Kenninghams Knockholt snaps I think there's one of you in there somewhere Kevin.

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: Kev The Clogs
Date: 02 Jul 07 - 08:55 PM

Hi there.

A little late, but, then I am new to this Mudcat Thread thing!!

Just a few words to say how fantastic I thought Knockholt was!! It's the first year that I've been to it. Val has been trying to get me to turn up for the last two years!! Just a great atmosphere with some great, like minded people :-)

There was some great talent there:- singers; guitarists etc etc. What a way to spend a long weekend. I really enjoyed the chance of singing whilst standing by a log fire and looking at the stars!! The Harmony workshop was great and I am using what I was shown already.

As non-folkies, Rob the fire juggler and his lass, Vicky, said that they really enjoyed it and that they now saw us fokies in a different light (whatever that means). They asked me to say thanks for making them feel welcome (They also came to our event in Aylesford last weekend - perhaps I can turn them into folkies after all??!!). Thanks for making me welcome as well!

Haven't got a clue who anyones is re their Mudcat name, so many thanks to whoever organises the weekend. Keep up the good work - great!!

I usually remember faces (not names), but if you see me during the year at a festival - do come up and say hello :-)

Happy Festival going peeeps

Kev :-)

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: Girl Friday
Date: 28 Jun 07 - 04:13 PM

We may not know who the offensive women were, but, as it's the second time they turned up, have a very good idea who invited them, having overheard a telephone call, similar to the one made last year by the same person. Thanks for all your efforts once again. Here's to the next one.

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: Dilligaf
Date: 25 Jun 07 - 06:35 PM

Thank you all, I had a great Knockholt I am now dried out inside and out. The noisy "ladies" where I believe from the hospital,The most amusing thing about them was their trying to sing Ring a ring a rosy from a book totally missing out the courus but one of them trying to sing refrain at the end of the second verse! as that was what was printed in the book.I,ll second Richards thank you to Jim for his taking command.
Love to you all see you at Lindas

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 25 Jun 07 - 04:25 PM

Well put, Debs.

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: Dipsodeb
Date: 25 Jun 07 - 04:22 PM

Unfortunately this year was somewhat spoilt for quite a few people including myself and Pat who is the Chair of the Folk Mob by the irresponsible behaviour of a small minority.

I wouldn't like to see young people excluded from Knockholt but I do think that they are the responsibility of the adult that they are with and that they should monitor what they are doing/drinking! It is not the responsibility of the Folk Mob organisers who are there to have fun at something that's taken them a year to organise.

The noisy women that Linda refferred to have been barred from future events We don't even know who they are this is the second time they have turned up and caused problems I remember RB having a row with them a couple of years ago because of their behaviour. Also 1 certain young man has been given serious warnings. This is what happens when events have a free bar and people are incapable of knowing when to stop. We can all get merry as Richard said and not cause offence. I think that the people involved meant no harm they were just drunk, loud and obnoxious.

TDL I think the issue of a free bar and more toilets will be discussed at the next meeting I'm sure that it is for all the committe to decide on what happens next.

As one of the organisers I would like to apologise for any offence caused. I hope that Septembers Knockholt will be better as it a quieter event in any case.

~Debs~

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: GUEST,The Barden of England at work
Date: 25 Jun 07 - 10:47 AM

I had a fun time. Thanks to the FOLKMOB who really do a sterling job in what can be adverse conditions (in more ways than one). Jamming with Tony and Woodsie was a highlight for me - thanks guys. But then again so was the whole weekend; the singers, most of the company, and being a 'caravanner' the weather didn't spoil my sleeping arrangements. Essex Girl's beer was excellent as was the Larkins at 'The Tally Ho'- I look forward to more for September. As for those who don't know how to hold their drink - they didn't bother me either, but perhaps being really noisy round their tents early next day may do the trick:-).
Well done all
John Barden

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: Essex Girl
Date: 25 Jun 07 - 08:49 AM

TDFL, there were very few freeloaders this year on the Saturday, due to the weather. The bunch of women who caused the interruptions were p***ed before they arrived, the other drunks had been there for most of the weekend!!

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: GUEST,woodsie
Date: 25 Jun 07 - 08:27 AM

In addition to wht I have already posted, I must say that I had an excellent time Wednesday - Friday & saturday afternoon. Thanks for great music from John Barden, Richard Bridge, Tony (guitar) George (mandolin, Kevin (singer),Capella, Jim Radford, and all the others who contibuted. The harmony workshop was good. The beer in the Tally Ho was Excellent - Larkins 10/10 IPA 9/10 Black Sheep 9/10 That's from somebody who normally drinks lager!

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: GUEST,woodsie
Date: 25 Jun 07 - 05:17 AM

Saturday... Well I usually go home on Saturday to avoid the chaos. I wish I had done this time!

Wednesday to Friday had a super time with great people.

I agree with Richard the problem was not with the teenagers but with a few adults that can't hold their drink, don't have any interest in folk music & don't have any respect for other performers. These people have nothing to do with folkmob they are I am told, friends of friends.

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 24 Jun 07 - 08:37 PM

PPS, one of the primary offenders on the alcoholic behaviour front is not technically under age to drink, and mostly the spliffies behave OK, and I wouldn't bother getting anally retentive about underage smokers. A couple of other idiots could be improved by brain transplants preferably without anaesthetic. Plenty of people got/get ratarsed without being offensive - Friday was lovely (weather permitting) and it would be a shame to lose that special Knockholt magic, and also a shame to drive away young people who do get an exposure to folk music (well, I did hear some) at Knockers by getting prissy at them.

I should also have given a major thumbs up to Jim for rescuing the Sat nite sing by stepping in with a firm hand on the stick and a grasp of the lyrical structure of some songs.... (see, I was listening even if I had disappeared to the vardo to get dry and warm).

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 24 Jun 07 - 08:10 PM

PS, if you are in need I expect to have the gold Volvo 765 estate back working Mon/Tues if you need a loan - be warned she does about 17 to the gallon and the heater matrix leaks....

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 24 Jun 07 - 08:08 PM

I've told you before about those suspenders....

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: melodeonboy
Date: 24 Jun 07 - 06:15 PM

No melodeonboy, indeed. My suspension went on the way home from work on Friday; well, actually the suspension on my car; my suspension is as good as ever! "'cos I'm built for comfort, I ain't built for speed, but I got everything that a good girl need" (That's enough B.B. King lyrics - Ed.).

I had to get towed back to Pikeyville and then spend Saturday getting the bloody thing repaired.

I shall be coming to Essex Girl's bash by train on Sunday, so surely nothing can go wrong??!!!

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: Girl Friday
Date: 24 Jun 07 - 03:58 PM

Have had discourse with Mick Foorde re bogs and youth/adult offenders. (Can't be specific as to who is guilty party(ies).Certainly there was underage drinking, smoking, alcohol abuse. Have agreed with him 4 loos next summer, three in September, and no free bar, as this is mostly the reason that many freeloaders turn up on Saturday. Otherwise,a great effort, and much enjoyed.

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 24 Jun 07 - 11:08 AM

More rain than sun :(

Youth + cider = bad idea.

Non-working Grottybotties, bad plan. Second consecutive year. Time to shout at the man who supplies them. State of at least one of them possibly related to someone's excess of alcohol over sense.

Bar excellent, comps to Linda and Debs. Such a shame one of the boxes of cider fell off.

Harmony workshop excellent, comps to Capella.

Food excellent, thank you Sue and assembled other cooks.

Guitar by Tony excellent.

Max respect to the young people who called themselves a folk-punk band. Not really enough bum notes for that. They were pretty good. I'd have called them acid-folk I think.

No melodeonboy. His shirts might have brightened up where the sun was not shining....

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: Dipsodeb
Date: 20 Jun 07 - 05:41 AM

Well we're off in about an hour or so. The weather seems to be ok for today.
The bars fully loaded and ready to go ;-) Yipee my first festy this year.
See ya there if not, you've missed out on what promises to be a brilliant weekend.

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: vectis
Date: 19 Jun 07 - 11:19 AM

Unfortunately my early hopes of getting there this year have floundered on the rocks of Dad's brain tumour.
Maybe next year?
Have a fabulous time everybody
Luvnugs
Mary

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: GUEST,mexican
Date: 19 Jun 07 - 05:33 AM

There's alway the Tally Ho if it rains too much. Or people can shelter under the brim of my sombrero!

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 19 Jun 07 - 05:11 AM

Bum, yes rain and some sun forecast for both London and Sevenoaks.

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: GUEST,Weatherman
Date: 19 Jun 07 - 05:02 AM

Lots of rain forecast for South West and up north (it's grim there) let's hope that the sun shines on the folkmob.

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: GUEST,Woodsie
Date: 18 Jun 07 - 08:05 PM

A pity the great Kenneth will not be there til Thurs

Subject: RE: Knockholt 2007
From: GUEST,Dave Kenningham
Date: 18 Jun 07 - 06:34 PM

I'm just changing the guitar strings! Looking forward to the sessions in the Marquee and the TH. Only 2 days to go!!!!!!!!!!.