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Dave Van Ronk & Utah Phillips

08 May 13 - 10:02 AM (#3513012)
Subject: Dave Van Ronk & Utah Phillips
From: voyager

Mudcat -

The final Dave Van Ronk concert (captured on Smithsonian CD) -
'And the Tin Pan Bended, and the Story Ended'

features a photo (pg 15) of Dave and Utah 'clowning around'. This begs
the question whether there was an song-swapping, political organizing, or other collaboration between the two artists.

I was at the final concert (Oct 22, 2011) & now must find the CD.

voyager


08 May 13 - 01:03 PM (#3513058)
Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk & Utah Phillips
From: dick greenhaus

The CD is readily available (from CAMSCO, as well as other lesser sources)


09 May 13 - 10:27 AM (#3513382)
Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk & Utah Phillips
From: GUEST

I was once in a folk festival workshop with Dave and Utah so yes, they have swapped songs on at least that occasion and, I would guess, many more. They were certainly friends, maybe not close friends, but they knew each other and there seemed to be genuine affection between them.

As for political organizing, I doubt it. Dave was a Trotskyite and Utah was an IWW anarchist ("an anarchist is anyone who doesn't need a 'cop' to tell them what to do").


09 May 13 - 10:39 AM (#3513387)
Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk & Utah Phillips
From: Mark Ross

Dave was a member of the IWW at various times. Being a Trotskyite is no bar to membership in the IWW.

Mark Ross


09 May 13 - 12:17 PM (#3513430)
Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk & Utah Phillips
From: dick greenhaus

DAve was a staunch libertarin who mellowed in later years to beome a Stalinist.


10 May 13 - 07:51 PM (#3513729)
Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk & Utah Phillips
From: Mark Ross

I really can't see Dave as a Stalinist. A Trot, yes, but a Stalinist?

Mark Ross


10 May 13 - 08:49 PM (#3513748)
Subject: RE: Dave Van Ronk & Utah Phillips
From: dick greenhaus

That's what he told me.