pride of petrovore

Subject: pride of petrovore
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Mar 01 - 01:06 AM

Subject: RE: pride of petrovore
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 16 Mar 01 - 01:12 AM

Phil the Fluter's Ball

Subject: RE: pride of petrovore
From: Noreen
Date: 16 Mar 01 - 01:13 AM

Yes, GUEST, what about her?

Clue--- she's in the database...

Subject: RE: pride of petrovore
From: Noreen
Date: 16 Mar 01 - 01:14 AM

Murray- I'll raise you: The Mountains of Mourne.

Subject: RE: pride of petrovore
From: Midchuck
Date: 16 Mar 01 - 06:55 AM

Is there a point to this?

Subject: RE: pride of petrovore
From: SINSULL
Date: 16 Mar 01 - 08:46 AM

If you are looking for lyrics, go to the data base. If you would like a recording - MS.Chuck does it on a Woodchuck's revenge album - buy them both and you'll find it. Ian and Sylvia recorded it in the 60s. If you are confused, join the crowd. It can be away of life around here.

Subject: RE: pride of petrovore
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 16 Mar 01 - 10:18 AM

Some search tips for "GUEST":

Where place names (especially imaginary ones, as in this case) are concerned, spellings often vary.  A search for pride of petrovore through the "Digitrad and Forum Search" box on the main Forum page would find you one set of lyrics in a previous discussion of the song, but a search for pride of would get you a lot more hits, including the lyric file in the Digital Tradition database.  With a little patience, you would also find another set under its more usual (?) title of Eileen Og.  In addition, if you were to use the "Digitrad Lyrics Search", looking for pride of petrovore would get you nowhere, but pride of petr* (the * being what is called a "wildcard") would find the DT file.  Some practice in the use of search engines is all you need, and it's really worth making the effort.  Further useful information may be found in the FAQ thread at the top of the Thread list.

Malcolm

Subject: RE: pride of petrovore
From: SINSULL
Date: 16 Mar 01 - 10:51 AM

Thanks Malcolm. I had no idea what a "wild card" was. Kept thinking deuces, aces, and one-eyed jacks from my childhood.

Subject: RE: pride of petrovore
From: GUEST,JTT
Date: 16 Mar 01 - 12:31 PM

McGrath the Cattle Jobber

Subject: RE: pride of petrovore
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 16 Mar 01 - 01:42 PM

Subject: RE: pride of petrovore
From: JedMarum
Date: 16 Mar 01 - 04:16 PM

Subject: RE: pride of petrovore
From: JedMarum
Date: 16 Mar 01 - 04:42 PM

the flower of ardmagullian and the pride of petrovore ...

with a toot on the flute and a twiddle on the fiddle ...

Subject: RE: pride of petrovore
From: alison
Date: 19 Mar 01 - 12:07 AM

I've a nice painted house and a cow or two at grass....

Subject: RE: pride of petrovore
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 19 Mar 01 - 06:39 PM

Eileen Oge by Percy French - I couldn't find it in the DT either, but for the words and a midi (and lots of other good stuiff about Percy French and others try here

I always like songs about my family.

Subject: RE: pride of petrovore
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 19 Mar 01 - 08:18 PM

In the DT:

Pride of Petrovar

In the Forum:

Eileen Oge  (from a Dubliners record).
Pride Of Petrovar
Midi:  Eileen Og

Probably more references, too, but that ought to do for now.

Malcolm

Subject: RE: pride of petrovore
From: GUEST,Roll&Go-C
Date: 20 Mar 01 - 08:58 AM

I can still hear Richard Dyer-Bennet's version of this song echoing in my head. I believe the Smithsonian is re-releasing his superb recordings as CD's. For those of you who have never listened to this urban troubadour, I urge you to give himt a listen. You may be startled by his high tenor voice but we all have a lot to learn from his impeccable renditions of traditional songs.

Subject: RE: pride of petrovore
From: GUEST,Roll&Go-C
Date: 20 Mar 01 - 08:58 AM

I can still hear Richard Dyer-Bennet's version of this song echoing in my head. I believe the Smithsonian is re-releasing his superb recordings as CD's. For those of you who have never listened to this urban troubadour, I urge you to give himt a listen. You may be startled by his high tenor voice but we all have a lot to learn from his impeccable renditions of traditional songs.

Subject: RE: pride of petrovore
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 20 Mar 01 - 09:15 PM

"It's always in the DT" is a pretty safe rule. I suppose it didn't turn up when I looked because it's got Eileen Orr instead of Oge, and because it's got McGraw where Percy French had him as McGrath. And Petrovar instead of Petravore.

Thanks for the links Malcolm - one of them (the second in the Forum - Pride of Petrovar) ended with this intriguing snippet:

found this site while trying to find lyrics to "eilleen og."i'm not sure if this is true and would welcome any input. my aunt from co. cavan told me yrs. ago that the pedravor in percy french's song referred to my gr. grandfather, peter mcgovern, also known as pedravor or "peter of the road." he was from glangevlin i think, so i'm wondering if this is true and did anyone else ever hear this? he lived about 1860's i think. maryann

But noone seems to have followed it up, and tghere's no othr posts by maryann the handkle she used for that one anyway. I'd always taken "Petravore" to be a place name, and wondered where it might be - but maybe it is a person all along, the name of the poor lad singing who's had his heart broken.

Has anyone got any ideas about this?

Subject: RE: pride of petrovore
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 21 Mar 01 - 02:54 PM

Refresh - I've got my curiosity roused now.

Subject: RE: pride of petrovore
From: GUEST,esmond
Date: 21 Mar 01 - 05:17 PM

Brendan O'Dowda's version was an integral (and good) part of my childhood. He did a whole album of Percy French songs in the sixties some time including the wonderful 'Are you right there Michael, are you right?'. I saw him singing Eileen Oge on St Patricks Night in the Free Trade Hall, Manchester circa 1967. Thanks for the memory.

Subject: RE: pride of petrovore
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 23 Mar 01 - 04:11 PM

Ah but you couldn't beat The Count's version. (Count John McCormack that is).

Any further thoughts on whether Petravore is a place or a person?

Subject: RE: pride of petrovore
From: MMario
Date: 23 Mar 01 - 04:22 PM

Anyone have the tune for Pride of Petrovar - it is one of our missing tunes for the DT.

Subject: RE: pride of petrovore
From: Noreen
Date: 23 Mar 01 - 04:45 PM

MMario, there is a midi here Eileen Oge/Pride of Petravore from the site McGrath linked to above. Will this do?

Noreen