Guest 8:38
Yes, the Iraqis crave change.

That's the point I've been trying to make.

From above:
You may disagree with the original invasion of Iraq, many people do, but what is happening there now is not a struggle between Iraqis and the US.
Millions of decent people there are trying to build a democracy - read some of the iraqi bloggers - and AQ is trying, at all costs to stop them. It's muslims who are dying and they are being killed by fanatics. What people here are saying is that we abandon these good people to the murderers.

But you make it seem that the two sides are equally right, equally wrong. I have to disagree. It's democracy or the fascism of the jihadists. I don't believe that democracy is outdated. Read the blogs from Iraqis, especially the female ones, they are DESPERATE that democracy succeeds in Iraq. We can help them or leave them to the murdering bastards who will tread on them as they always have done.

AQ doesn't want to punish us for our mistakes, they want to destroy us for what we've got right. Would it be clearer for people here if the jihadists wore brown shirts and jackboots.