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GUEST,Homeless (somewhere else) BS: Cyberspace Friendships (127* d) RE: BS: Cyberspace Friendships 20 Mar 00


I've just read thru this (fairly long) thread and noticed a few things I'd like to comment on.

I noticed the 'cliquiness' of the Mudcat within the first couple days of lurking, but upon closer observation I've seen that the people that comprise the cliques are usually people that have the same interests. I.e. when you ask a question or make a post about a specific topic, you usually see the same names answer as did in the last thread on that topic. It's more of knowledge-area question than an actual you-don't-belong-in-our-group kind of thing in my opinion. The same goes for the BS threads - you see a lot of the same names there.

I tend to agree with thought that the personality expressed on Mudcat (not necessarily anywhere else on=line) is a reflection of the person's real personality. I know I for one am that way. I usually don't have much to say, I don't chat on the phone or BS usually. But when I have something to say, I figure it out, say it, and be done with it. My posts tend to be that way too (at least IMO). I don't post unless I have something constructive to add to the thread.

Just my opinion, but I theorize that one of the reasons that some people can be more open on-line is that many of the "filters" that we live with and affect our daily communications are done away with here. Appearance was mention earlier in regards to dealing with people. There are also things like social class that aren't apparent either. In this online world of only words, that lacks so many of the visual cues that we subconsciouly process, I can approach and ask a question without people cowering in fear because I just dismounted a Harley and am covered in tattoos. I can also put forth my opinions and conjectures and have them not rejected immediately. Going the other way, I would probably be to intimidated by someone like Rick Fielding to approach him with a question in person. I would feel that he was too much of a "master" at his art to want to bother him. Other than Rick, I've not gotten enough of an impression of anyone's skills to be uncomfortable asking a question of a specific person.

To address the "friends saying how much they like each other" issue... This is another time where it seems that cyber-lives mimic the offline life. Like Shambles, this, to me, is an annoyance. But it annoys me in the physical world too. I know many people that (need to) validate each other, continually. (One of the reasons I'm in the midst of a divorce is because my wife is a validator, and I'm not.)

To say that spending many hours on-line, specifically at Mudcat, is the symptom of a condition for which one needs counseling is a bit strong. Spending hours here should be viewed as a symptom-not as dis-ease in itself. The reason for the symptom needs to be analyzed, and only then should it be determined if help is needed.
Granted, one should have balance in one's life, but there is not always the resource to find persons with common interests in one's geographic area. I know of 1 other person in this town who is into folk music, and due to a new baby, he's currently unavailable for much social interaction. Besides which, tThe time I spend on-line reading various ideas on a wide variety of topics is much more educational that any college class I've gone to.
What we build here, especially among the 'cliques', ARE personal relationships. Not the same as we would in a face-to-face situation, but not all of those are the same either. I used to dance a couple times a week and always saw the same people. There was one lady in particular who I enjoyed having as a partner. I thought that we had a lot in common and enjoyed each other's presence, but after spending a couple days together found we didn't much care for each other's off-the-dancefloor personalities. So even physical, limited relationships can be misleading at times.
And building relationships, cyber or not, IMO is much preferred to spending hours behind a Nintendo or television.

Amos - I've never met Spaw, but I'd bet he does act that way - I work in an office of 14 guys, 8+ of which are that way.

Spaw - if you ever want to meet a few guys that would fit in with your tastes in humor, and give you a run for the money on quick come-backs, feel free to drop by.

Michael K - 33k




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