Uncle DaveO, your joke above (re the fighter and the transport aircraft) is reminiscent of one which was doing the rounds when the United States Air Force had adopted the single-engined F16 and the United States Navy and the US Marines had adopted the twin-engined F18. A USAF pilot and a USN / USMC (delete to choice) pilot were on a transit flight. One asked the other, "Can your plane do this?" and for several minutes, the two performed a series of manoeuvres. Finally, the F18 pilot said, "OK. Now match this." Nothing appeared to happen, the F18 continued to fly straight and level. The F16 pilot said, "What did you do?" "I just shut down one engine" replied the other.
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