Hi Jon

You mention "If you believed theft was a sin, would you be sitting in judgement by stating your belief? Would you be sitting in judgement by not wanting be an accomplice to theft? " and this is a fair point. I see what you are now getting at.

I have problem with some sins personally. The point I was trying to put across is that according to the bible and church we are all sinners. I personally do not transcribe to the idea in total. I do not think a new born baby can be a sinner simply by being born, as an instance. I also believe being homosexual is not a sin.

I am told by Christian friends though that all sin is sin and I have had a great deal of discussion on topics like murder and stealing a loaf are both equal sins in the eyes of God. So when I say all sin is sin I was not quoting my own belief on that. I personally cannot see how each are in any way equal and deserve the same punsihment or condemnation. But then there am I judging of sorts. I do take your point. I do not deny also I am judgemental in many instances. It is part of the human condition

What I will not do is blame Jesus for being responsible for what I think nor what other people have written about him and his wishes after his ascension. I am not actually Christian myself but I have no problem with Christ's teachings generally.

Complicated? I am. I am not always right. I am fallible. I know I have not always done the right thing too. But that is between my God and I. I judge all the time. We all make assessments every day on people's activities and intent around us. We make mistakes. To err is human, to forgive divine.

Thank you for your peacable example. It's certainly a valid point as much as any I have made from my side of this fence

best wishes

mp