Keith, please feel free to take as many posts and as long as you need to respond to my points.

I would prefer that you take your time and deal with each of the points rather than - as has been your wont so far, in this thread and in others - ignoring questions asked, moving goalposts and generally being disingenuous in selecting what you will or will not address. Oh, and for the avoidance of doubt, the specific points I would like you to address are set out. Like Lox and others, I do not and will not accept that they should be reiterated simply because you want to subvert the argument and claim that others will not respond to your requests, Requests which are unreasonable and tactically transparent.

Real life is not like that. If you adopt a position, you need to respond to the specific concerns which are raised. It is inappropriate and disrespectful to constantly ask for a recasting of questions. That is not a legitimate debating ploy and, whilst it may be reasonable to request a re. statement once, to do so continually actually undermines your position.

On the subject of NI, the simple act of taking an opposing view to you means that I have a "twisted agenda"???? Ainsi soit-il, but it is disappointing that you look to play the man rather than play the ball. However, I suppose you are consistent in that respect. FWIW, my position on both NI and Muslims in Britain is informed not solely by Google and/ or selective use of newspaper sources. In both cases I have spent a long time in situ. As a consequence I can tell you that not everything comes nicely packaged in black and white, that there are a myriad of factors which influence real life, that not everything you read in newspapers is either accurate or appropriately reported.

The infuriating thing about your position is that you freely acknowledge, on one level, that you have no real knowledge of the subject under discussion, yet you build a wall around a construct derived from newspaper cuttings and Google. You then repel all boarders by simply refusing to engage in any intellectual way.

I would much rather that you share your own views - forget Straw et al .