Here, can you smell something? Smells a bit like bullshit to me.

Religion has no music. It has words, granted. Charles Wesley was born 3 miles from where I type and the place is subject to daily pilgrimages. Fair play. He had an effect on many, even me. After all, it was his turgid mantras that dominated school assemblies, the nearest that children of rational parents got.

Bach didn't write religious music. He wrote music and gave it religious titles due to his strong faith. The music was of course abstract, same as any other music. In fact, his use of cadence gave a more detailed perspective of the infinite universe than any science can allow us to grasp.

Ron may well read this thread but what it says and what he takes from it are two very different things. A rather typical straw grasping approach, commonly seen to support superstition rather than reflect faith.