"But if you imagine that that fact obviates entirely the fact that hostility to that state can frequently be used as a useful but pretty well transparent veil for antisemitism, then you are not bringing to the matter the full use of your undoubted intelligence ~~~ and one can only sigh and wonder why!"

We know very well that there are those who try to hide antisemitism behind the veil of criticism of Israel's politicians, but it is disingenuous on your part to pretend that Bobad and K A of H are not countering every single criticism with that argument, and constantly trying (unsuccessfully) to manoeuvre us into using the term Jew or Jewish and thereby giving credence to their accusations.

Do you see them as they obviously see themselves, as the only non antisemitic posters on this forum, or would you disassociate yourself from their obvious hard wired "Israel, right or wrong" attitude?