What pisses me off about what gives here is that the petition was specific, and you could take it or leave it as you chose. But no, some argumentative so-and-so (and my first draft said what I really mean by that) has to drag it out via a totally unrelated simile to make a point which has no foundation in reality as a result. If Correspondant X is a right nutter, does that mean that Correspondant Y is also one, simply because they post here? No, because the halfway step that's been skipped is the false imputation that all posters must be right nutters. Because a farmer becomes an occasional pain in the butt does that mean that all humans are permanent pains in the butt? No - but what does that say about the person arguing so?
As I say, you could take it or leave it. The proposition was not intended to become the cause of debate, but simply for information, you should have made your minds up long since on the basis of better facts than have been presented here and debating the point now, simply because you've flogged the latest warhorse to death on another thread, is closing the stable door after the said warhorse has departed.
I therefore propose to the Moderators that this thread not be CLOSED, not because it is a subject which should not be debated, but because the people engaging in it are not debating objectvely according to the disciplines of rational debate.