welcome to the real world spb, but the british perfected water boarding on irish prisoners illegally detained during the seventies in northern ireland, and then their experts in torture taught the americans how to do it. not to mention the convictions for troture of british regiments in iraq near basra. the british have always used torture. in kenya over a hundred thousand illegally detained and beaten and starved, one autheor says a half million.

the anglo powers have always used torture. they have usually had compliant media to help with a cover up, but they have always used torture.