"Perhaps you might wish to ask the mods to close this discussion, "
Nigel has a point - but not the one he is trying to make I think
Every discussion we attempt to have on proper subjects are now being hi-jacked - largely by two not particularly intelligent extremists who are somewhat overburdened by their own problems and insist on inflicting them on the rest of us
Imagine taking seriously people who are deeply inflicted with their own racism and cultural hatred when they accuse the Labour Party of the same thing - yet we do so - every time
Keith's extremist Islamophobie is writ large in his notorious quote, yet we allow him to overwhelm thread after thread by taking him seriously and responding to him
Iains is an ill-mannered bully who has used this thread to promote a leading hate campaigner whose activities go back at least as far as the Brievik murders
Yet we feel it necessary to defend Labour from his attacks as if what he says is important
Why should we take accusations of extremism from twd of the most extreme posters to this thread seriously - yet we do, time after time after time.....
It's not even as if they say what they have to say well - they have no well-thought-out or original arguments... just media garbage repeated

By entering into discussion with these people we allow them to make our threads extensions of their hate campaigns and those in the media and on the streets, instigated by Tommy Robinson and his ilk .

Now Nigel wants us to close the thread - why wouldn't he - we might get around to discussing the farcical behaviour of his party at the present time - their destructive incompetence, their clownish in-fighting, their racist leading politicians and their own accusations of cultural hatred that they have always refused to deal with.

This is a perfectly good subject - we either get on with discussing it or we continue to allow it to be wrecked by the same two people who have wrecked topic after topic by simply behaving like two fractious brats running around the room and making nuisance of themselves until someone pays them the attention they seek
We either get on with it or we let them wreck another thread - simple as that
Jim Carroll