thanks Don, I think youre right, I know Ive been too available recently (and to be honest I think she likes the idea of old boyfriends kind of hovering around her, she has an ex from years back whos probably still in love with her and phones her up almost daily) I did notice a change in her when I didnt see her for a few months last year. I am backing off for a while, and shes taking a holiday to Ireland with two girlfriends and Ill be taking my own to fiddle tunes. Anyway Im not planning to spend the time feeling sorry for myself.