DougR, You seem to be a little embarrassed that the thread was started and has now been refreshed. Don't be. It has stirred up some pretty good discussion and I hope will have very positive effects, for me anyway. I ALWAYS have a "packing up the equipment" pint at the end of the night which according to some of these posts, is not the best of ideas. I am tired at the end of the night and that one pint might just be enough.....who knows? I plan on starting a new packing up tradition at my next gig, perhaps a coffee? A water? And then a beer while I'm unpacking, after the van is parked for the night.

Thanks Doug, PAH