He was a self seeking murderer - and to bring a musical theme to our discussion I recall in the sixties, listening to country Joe McDonald singing a song that began "Come on all of you big strong men, Uncle Sam needs your help again." I believe that it refered to a jam Uncle Sam had got himself involved in in a little known tourist spot known as Vietnam.

How many people did that kill? I will ask you to reply to what I had written in my earlier post.

At some point their are people who have to die for the greatr good of the many.

Your country at the moment is killing many innocent people in the hope of killing the one whom they hold responsible for a horrendous crime.

It that so much different from my view.

I am a pacifist because I believe that Winston Churchill was right when said that "Jaw jaw is better than war war". Given your inability to advance an arguement coupled with your country's self centred foreign policies I should perhaps explains that it means the it better to reach a settlement to a problem by discussion, reasoning, and argument than kill people.

Live in peace