To my mind, anyone who blames everything on a Labour govenment, or for that matter a Tory government is being naive in the extreme.

Lets be honest, for a moment. Governing a country isn't easy. There are countless and conflicting calls as to how best spend a limited pot of money. A government cannot win with everyone. Ever.

To simply say; "everything is Tony Blair's fault" shows a total lack of insight. For Labour to say that everything that's wrong is the Tories fault is equally stupid.

Pavene, you say that it has nothing to do with taxes. In so far as John's original point regarding hospital waiting lists etc is concerned, then I'd respectfully say that it has.

France, Germany etc. spend a far greater amount on health than we do, and guess what, their services are better.

I'm sticking by my original post. Here in the UK we expect everything to be wonderful whilst never having to dig in our own pockets to pay for it.

To my mind, that is the fundamental problem

Paul