Gray D: that is *just* the thing I am trying to get at...well one of the things. Why *is* that?! Beyond obvious answers, is there anything deeper?

Jeri: Yeah, belts work, sorta...but, well, you have the opposite thing (and I bet that sucks just as much!), it is so hard to explain why the belt thing doesn't always do the trick, even though logically it should. I'll try to explain: The butt fits, but then the waist, well, it usually fits in the front pretty well and the sides, too, but in the back, right at the small of my back, it just GAPES! Several inches of denim just in that spot, right above my jiggly butt. So I put a belt on and then I have these bundles of denim poking me in the back - very uncomfortable. It isn't like the waist is big all the way around so that the bundles of denim spread out; it is just in that one spot. And it looks darn ridiculous, let me tell you! And wear a shirt that is tucked in, or god forbid, one that rides a bit high to show off my stomach a bit: no way, not with that unsightly gathering of denim above my backside!

I have a pretty small waist and it's pretty flat for the most part, but I was a heptathalete in college so I have round buns and bigger than average thighs from all the jumping and hurdling and running I did. That combination just DOES NOT work when looking for jeans.

I would almost prefer to have no butt and have the waist fit...isn't that funny? Like having straight hair but wanting curly? Maybe we all just want what we can't have?

I dunno.

Back to the jiggles....I still haven't read anything from anyone with presumptions of why most of us find relative jiggling ok, even sexy...