Just called Connie and she had just spoken with Karen. Blood count still too low. He has had 12 units and they think that if it was going to seal over it would have and he is still losing blood. They are going to operate in the morning at 8:30 in the hope that they can find the problem quickly and fix it. Connie is writing to mick and he will post a more complete description of what has gone on. You all know by now that surgery for Pat is not a happy thought. However, he has dodged a good many bullets and he just may have some more of his nine lives as a mudcat left. I am sure that he can use some heavy duty positive thinking, prayer and light. Connie or Karen will call me as soon as he is out of surgery and I will have my fingers over the keys to let you all know how our 'spaw is doing. May God be merciful and give both Pat and Karen strength and peace. God be with us all. Love to all.....clarence