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Thread #166644   Message #4220963
Posted By: GUEST,Phil d'Conch
15-Apr-25 - 09:14 PM
Thread Name: Ruth Rubin - recordings on ORIOLE
Subject: RE: Ruth Rubin - recordings on ORIOLE
Coming from: Origins/lyrics: Hey Zhankoye.

Does anybody have a physical/street address for Oriole, NY?

“In the middle of November ('44) Ruth Rubin arranged for Asch to record several of her Yiddish folk songs, most of which she had learned as a child or later as a collector in the Yiddish-speaking community of Montreal. She and her husband intended to distribute the resulting album privately on their own label (Oriole); they arranged to pay Asch a fee in exchange for which he would record the album and make the necessary arrangements for its pressing and production. Although Mrs. Rubin was primarily an a cappella singer, she was convinced by someone in this instance to record the material with a backup chorus (a decision she later regretted). She and her husband knew little of Asch except that he was the son of the famous Yiddish writer….

...Six sides resulted from the session, the most famous of which was probably “Zhankoye,” a song that came out of Russia in the 1920s during the period of collectivization....

Another conflict that resulted from Ruth Rubin's recording session with Asch had more immediate consequences for both of them. After Asch had pressed and packaged the album, the Rubins came to 117 West Forty-sixth Street from time to time to pick up copies as needed. On one such occasion they noticed that he had packaged a large number of the albums on his own Asch-Stinson label rather than on their private label. The album, in fact, continued to appear in Asch catalogues as Jewish Folk Songs Sung by Ruth Rubin and Chorus and was even marketed through Asch's subsequent label, Disc Records, in 1946 after Asch Records had dissolved. Asch had not, of course, paid for the right to use Rubin's material, nor was he paying her royalties. The whole matter resulted in a lawsuit that Asch eventually settled with a sum of several hundred dollars, at a time when he could ill afford it.”
[Ruth Rubin interview with author, Making People's Music, Moe Asch and Folkways Records, Goldsmith, 1998]

Note: The suit was still pending when Asch & Stinson Trading finally parted was for good. Former partners Harris, Prosky &co. agreed to pay a third of the final settlement.