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ADD:Down on Me-Vera Ward Hall /Janis Joplin(Lomax)
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Subject: ADD: DOWN ON ME From: Dicho (Frank Staplin) Date: 10 Nov 01 - 10:03 PM DOWN ON ME CHORUS Down on me, down on me, Look like everybody in the whole wide world Down on me. If I could, I surely would Stand on the rock where Moses stood, Look like everybody in the whole wide world Down on me. CHORUS Oh, Mary, Martha, Luke and John, All God's prophets dead and gone, Look like everybody in the whole wide world Down on me. CHORUS When I get to Heaven, goin' to talk and tell, How I shunned the gates of Hell, Look like everybody in the whole wide world Down on me. CHORUS *Oh, I ain't bin to Heaven but I bin told, Streets are pearly an' the gates are gold, Looks like everybody in the whole wide world Down on me. CHORUS When I get to Heaven, goin' to jump and shout, Nobody there to turn me out, etc. CHORUS Go down angel, in the north, All God's children goin' to be lost, etc. CHORUS Go down angel, in the south, All God's angels goin' to jump and shout, etc. CHORUS When I done travelin' here below, *Warfare's over an' to Heaven I'll go, etc. CHORUS Sung by Vera Hall, Livingston, Alabama. *Additions from Sims Tartt and group, Boyd, Alabama. @religion @spiritual |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DOWN ON ME From: Dicho (Frank Staplin) Date: 10 Nov 01 - 10:04 PM Down On Me from John and Ruby Lomax 1939 Southern States Recording Trip. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DOWN ON ME From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 10 Nov 01 - 11:31 PM Most of these same verses are in Keep Your Hand on the Plow, Hold On.. Jerry Rasmussen |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DOWN ON ME From: masato sakurai Date: 11 Nov 01 - 01:06 AM Probably Janis Joplin's powerful rendition is the best known:
DOWN ON ME
Down on me.
Nothin' in this world is so hard to find,
If you see a hand that's held out toward you,
I'm leavin' here forever.
Another field recording (sung by Mary Pickney and Janie Hunter) is on Been in the Storm So Long: A Collection of Spirituals, Folk Tales and Children's Games from Johns Island, SC (Smithsonian Folkways 40031); the transcription of words & music is in Sing for Freedom (p. 235). Other sound recordings are by the Golden Harps (on V.A., Soul of Chicago)and Edna G. Cooke. Variants are also in Work, American Negro Songs (p. 115); Solomon, Honey in the Rock (Mercer University Press, p. 112); and Peters, Lyrics of the Afro-American Spiritual (p. 10).
The stanza "on the rock where Moses stood" is also in OH, MARY DON'T YOU WEEP; LININ' TRACK; ON THE ROCK WHERE MOSES STOOD (aka CRYING HOLY) by the Carter Family (CLICK HERE); and others. ~Masato
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Subject: ADD: DOWN ON ME (from Work) From: Dicho (Frank Staplin) Date: 11 Nov 01 - 06:52 PM DOWN ON ME Down on me, Down on me, Looks like everybody in the whole round world's Down on me. Talk about me, much as you please, I'll talk about you when I get on my knees Looks like everybody in the whole round world's Down on me. Sometimes I'm up, sometimes I'm down, Sometimes I'm almost to the ground, Looks like everybody in the whole wide world's Down on me. Heaven's so high, I'm so low, Don't know if I'll ever get to Heaven or no. Looks like everybody in the whole round world's Down on me. John W. Work, American Negro Songs and Spirituals, p. 115. The song in Work, cited by Masato, has a different attitude; "I'll talk about you when I get on my knees." The lines "Sometimes I'm up ..." are better known from another song. @religion @spiritual @gospel |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DOWN ON ME From: Burke Date: 12 Nov 01 - 04:11 PM Catalog Information for I here. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DOWN ON ME From: Dicho (Frank Staplin) Date: 10 Dec 01 - 07:32 PM Down On Me- additional verse: Never seed the like since I been born People keeps er runnin' En de train done gone. Honey In The Rock, The Ruby Pickins Tartt Collection, 1991, Olivia and Jack Solomon, p. 112. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DOWN ON ME From: Stewie Date: 10 Dec 01 - 08:41 PM There is an appealing 1930 recording of 'Down on Me', (vocal, guitar and tambourine) by obscure gospel group, Eddie Head and His Family, on the wonderful compilation CD: 'American Primitive Vol 1: Raw Pre-war Gospel' Revenant 206, the late John Fahey's label. The sound quality is a bit ropey, but this remains one the great gospel compilations on CD. A follow-up may be in doubt now that Fahey is no longer with us. If you don't have it, this compilation should be grabbed now before it disappears. --Stewie. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DOWN ON ME From: Stewie Date: 10 Dec 01 - 09:18 PM I had a go at transcribing Eddie Head's version, but must admit defeat. It shares the 'Rock where Moses' stanza, which is repeated later as the final stanza, and 'I Ain't been to heaven' stanza with that posted above by Dicho. There are 3 indecipherable (to me) stanzas, one involving 'nowhere to lie my head', and the following 2:
Jordan River is chilly and cold
Down on me ...
Went to the cemetery the other day
Down on me ... --Stewie.
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Subject: Lyr Add: DOWN ON ME (Reed) From: masato sakurai Date: 10 Dec 01 - 09:25 PM Another field recording.
DOWN ON ME
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SOURCE: Various Artists, Negro Religious Songs and Services (Rounder CD 1514). The "down on me" stanza was also used in "French Blues," performed by Frank Evans, recorded by John A. Lomax at Parchman Penitentiary, 1936 (on Various Artists, Deep River of Song: Mississippi Saints & Sinners, Rounder CD 11661-1824-2). ~Masato |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DOWN ON ME From: Stewie Date: 11 Dec 01 - 06:45 PM Here is the transcription of Mrs Pickney's version referred to by Masato above:
DOWN ON ME --Stewie.
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Subject: RE: Origins: Janis J's 'Down On Me' from 1939 Lomax?? From: MickyMan Date: 28 May 21 - 08:12 PM Whoops ...... Should have searched this up first ..... Mudcat to the rescue. I looked up "Down On Me", and although there isn't a song listed in the "Lyrics And Knowledge", there is actually a thread that searches up several other early versions.
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: DOWN ON ME From: MickyMan Date: 28 May 21 - 08:18 PM Janis is listed as the writer, but the refrain sounds very similar to a very old Vera Ward Hall (1939 Lomax recording) that is currently available from the Library of Congress website. Perhaps she just heard it somewhere and then made up verses for it. Not taking anything away from her ..... It's just cool to see how this stuff connects through time, especially within these aural traditions. Does anybody else have any info about this obvious connection? Is there another "Down On Me" from the past that Janis may have come across? Mudcat to the rescue! Found this thread with more than a few versions! LofC Recording Link: Down On Me - Livingston, Alabama, May 27, 1939 https://www.loc.gov/item/lomaxbib000403/ Here's a link to the Janet Joplin/Big brother And The Holding Company 1967 version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd_dyFlSBCQ |
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Subject: RE: Origins: Janis J's 'Down On Me' from 1939 Lomax?? From: GUEST,# Date: 28 May 21 - 09:23 PM Doc Reed singing the song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DSYeod2fJ4 |
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