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GUEST,Chief Chaos	07 Oct 05 - 11:49 AM
Bill D	07 Oct 05 - 12:10 PM
Bobert	07 Oct 05 - 09:01 PM
dick greenhaus	07 Oct 05 - 09:34 PM
Q (Frank Staplin)	07 Oct 05 - 09:43 PM
Bobert	07 Oct 05 - 10:09 PM
nutty	07 Oct 05 - 10:29 PM
M.Ted	08 Oct 05 - 01:27 AM

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Subject: RE: BS: Really... Why Rebuild N.O.'s???...
From: GUEST,Chief Chaos
Date: 07 Oct 05 - 11:49 AM

You don't need to consider traffic when deciding to condemn D.C.!

Unfortunately its 50-50 on good areas and bad.

But if they don't get a handle on global warning the outer edges will be underwater soon anyway. Where we are the basement area flooded out and shut down business for a couple of days. Alexandria regularly has the Potomac River in it's lower section.

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Subject: RE: BS: Really... Why Rebuild N.O.'s???...
From: Bill D
Date: 07 Oct 05 - 12:10 PM

Global warming at least will only raise the levels by an inch or so every few years, and careful decisions can be made in 'most' threatened areas - whether to protect or abandon. Alexandria might need only some creative protection...but I won't hold my breath that they'll plan that far ahead. (New York City 'might' end up as several islands in a couple hundred years.)

New Orleans is a VERY special case...it started low, the land is subsiding, the sea is rising, the storms are getting worse and more frequent...and the government(s) charged with figuring out what to do is getting.....well....ummmmm

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Subject: RE: BS: Really... Why Rebuild N.O.'s???...
From: Bobert
Date: 07 Oct 05 - 09:01 PM

Actually, I'm likin' Q's ideas better and better...

Let the rich folk have the 9th Ward... Yeah. let 'um build their McMansions and gated communities and their golf courses and, and, and whatever it is that make rich folks happy...

But tlet 'um pay fir it too...

Oh, they are worried that their Mc Manasion will one day be swept out to sea? Tough! Let ''em take up a big ol' collection to do what their president has rwefused to do over the last 5 years: Spend some froggin' money to fix the levees!!! But don't ask me to pay that bill. Hey, the working and poor in this country are allready payin' way too many tax bucks to the rich... Yeah, let them have the 9th ward... No tax breaks and no warrenties...

As fir the peasants they need to run the city?

Firget it!!! Pay these folks a decent wage so they don't have to be peasants!!! $5 an hour is more criminal than slavery!!! Yeah, I'm standin' behind that!!! No, I ain't sayin' there was any redeemin' part of slavery so if yer gonna throw this up in my face some time down the road, quote this entire paragraph, tahnk you...

Now as fir rebuildin', if that is what folks want... All blocks shouls be build on barges so when the rains come the city floats...Block at a time... Firget stilts... BNarges, gol dangit... Hey, one could design entire city blocks where no one , other than the negineers would know that the blocks could actually float and be held in place by big ass bnungie cords unner 'um... That way, the only real damage would be from wind... not water...

Bobert

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Subject: RE: BS: Really... Why Rebuild N.O.'s???...
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 07 Oct 05 - 09:34 PM

The quwstion isn't WHY. Or even HOW. It's WHO's gonna pay for it.

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Subject: RE: BS: Really... Why Rebuild N.O.'s???...
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 07 Oct 05 - 09:43 PM

Barges? Might be a good idea. If you don't like your neighbors because they sing shantys all the time, just float away and nudge into another spot.

Apropos Catspaw and Bill D, I see where some sky pilots said N. O.'s Ninth was punished by God because of its sinnin' ways.

The Navigation Canal, as was posted elsewhere, part of the Navigable Waters of the United States as covered in Title 33, is run by the Army Corps of Engineers, Department of Transportation and the Coast Guard. They, plus some pork-barreling Louisiana congressmen, decided a new lock at $700 million and counting, and a new drawbridge for $500 million or so, were more important than upgrading the levees along the waterway. This money could have gone a long way toward upgrading these levees. The federales don't seem to want to talk about this and what happened to the immediately adjacent Ninth.

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Subject: RE: BS: Really... Why Rebuild N.O.'s???...
From: Bobert
Date: 07 Oct 05 - 10:09 PM

Now yer talkin', Q...

Don't like the folks acroos the street? Jus' go talk to yer neighbors and move the entire block somewhere else where the folks sing on key... Actually, if each house was built on a barge, you wouldn't need any neighbors support... Just move...

Ahhhh, Dick, reread what I proposed...

Bobert

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Subject: RE: BS: Really... Why Rebuild N.O.'s???...
From: nutty
Date: 07 Oct 05 - 10:29 PM

Joking apart .... watching CNN tonight. They were discussing the problems caused by the 9th Ward and how a solution might be never to rebuild there because the land, which was previously wetlands, is still under water and about 90% of the present housing is marked for demolition.

Problems arose when considering the re-allocation of housing to the 106,000 blacks and other races that lived there before Katrina.

Because it was a predominently black area any decision not to rebuild was likely to be viewed as racist.

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Subject: RE: BS: Really... Why Rebuild N.O.'s???...
From: M.Ted
Date: 08 Oct 05 - 01:27 AM

New York is already several islands, Bill,( even if you don't count the Statue of Liberty)--so it's later than we think;-) In my previous post, I was just pointing out that you can't pick-up a city and move it without making a big mess--and, if there is one thing that history shows us, no matter how bad things seem, a little creative intervention can make them worse--

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