Subject: Elixir Guitar Strings From: 53 Date: 01 Jul 01 - 03:56 PM Hi Catters, Our Big Baby Guitars (by Taylor) came with Elixer strings. They are great. The life of them is longer than other phosphor bronze strings we have used and now that we have had to buy new ones, we see why. The US list price is above $25. Has anyone else tried them? How do you like them? And what price do YOU have to pay for them? Glenda and Bob |
Subject: RE: BS: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Murray MacLeod Date: 01 Jul 01 - 04:17 PM The problem with Elixir (for me at any rate) is that they never actually sound new. They do keep their tone a long time, but that tone is not to my taste. Still, everyone to his own. D#Addario make a string similar to Elixir, which Martin Simpson was using last time I saw him. He swears by them. Can't remember what they are called, but I remember they cost more than I would have paid. Murray |
Subject: RE: BS: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Richard Bridge Date: 01 Jul 01 - 04:35 PM Wasn't there a thread on this a few months back? I tried Elixir's as a result, and I like them. I like them a lot. But my guitar is very bright. Not everyone does. The new D'Addario is i think filled with teflon over the core but inside the winding whereas Elixir's ahve the teflon on the top. |
Subject: RE: BS: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Clinton Hammond Date: 01 Jul 01 - 05:05 PM I've tried 'em... not bad... I never liked the sound of brand new strings in the first place... The problem was, I tried them at a time when I was breaking a lot of strings, so at almost 40 bucks a pack, they were deffinatly NOT worth it... Maybe I'll try them again, now that I've fixed that problem, but it's gonna have to be really impressive to get me away from good old Martin Light Gauge... |
Subject: RE: BS: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Bluebelle Date: 01 Jul 01 - 06:18 PM The D'Addario strings, to which you refer, are called Nanowebs. GHS has also come out with a coated string, called EXP's, and considered to be several cuts above, both the Elixirs and D'Addario Nanowebs. Coated strings seem to work best for those whose hands sweat profusely or whose acidity is high. In addition, pickers who play several hours a day say they last longer than uncoated strings. I've tried Elixirs twice and I absolutely do not like them. My personal preference for strings is Martin SP Phosphor Bronze. A flatpicker friend equates Elixirs to strings with a condom.
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Subject: RE: BS: Elixir Guitar Strings From: mooman Date: 01 Jul 01 - 06:53 PM Since I tried Elixir strings I will use no other on my fingerpicking guitar and mandolin as both instruments are bright already. I like the sound of the Elixirs on these instruments and they last for ages (more than one year on my fingerpicking guitar which is used for at least an hour daily, except for changing the top two unwound strings, with no really discernable loss in tone). This is just as wll as they are very pricey here in Belgium. On my other guitar which I use mainly for rhythm playing and jazz, the Elixirs just do not sound right and I stick with D'Addario phosphor bronze on this. There have been acouple of threads on this topic. Here is one and here is another. Regards mooman |
Subject: RE: BS: Elixir Guitar Strings From: davidg Date: 01 Jul 01 - 07:15 PM I once let some kid in a music store talk me into buying a set of Elixirs. I brought them home, put them on my guitar and hated them. They produce, at least on my guitar, a thin, metallic piercing kind of sound. No bottom end. I suppose they're fine if you want to sound like the Byrds ca. 1966. I'll stick with the phosphor bronze D'Addarios. |
Subject: RE: BS: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Little Hawk Date: 01 Jul 01 - 07:47 PM I love the Elixirs and will use nothing else at this point, but it's a matter of taste. Just like with guitars. - LH |
Subject: RE: BS: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Bugsy Date: 01 Jul 01 - 09:32 PM I've put them on my Maton and they sound great. Mind you the Maton has a big sound anyway. I've had them on for about 2 month now so they have more than paid for themselves (I usually change them every 3 weeks or so. For mine, they're well worth the money. CHeers Bugsy |
Subject: RE: BS: Elixir Guitar Strings From: 53 Date: 01 Jul 01 - 09:33 PM Thank you, Mooman, for the links to the other TWO posts on Elixer strings. I have read every comment and enjoyed them. Sorry, Catspaw, looks like I might have done the same thing others do at times, and started a thread without doing my research. But I can learn and am glad to find out when I err. So... next time I will remember to do the research. I sure am glad the 'Catters are a forgiving lot. Glenda |
Subject: RE: BS: Elixir Guitar Strings From: catspaw49 Date: 01 Jul 01 - 09:45 PM That's OK Glenda.....happens to everyone occasionally and as long as someone comes along and links them as the Mooman did, it's sometimes a good idea. When you refresh a thread with, say 65 posts on it, some people will figure the discusiion hass gone on without them and no one will read their post anyway. So a fresh thread can be beneficial at times......Here it has brought up the other makers getting into the coated string market. I'm trying a set next string change myself, just hadn't got around to trying them and I'm in a string rut since I've been using the same thing for years. Spaw |
Subject: RE: BS: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Pseudolus Date: 02 Jul 01 - 12:08 AM I love the Elixer strings mostly because of their longevity... I usually change my strings (or should) every two to three weeks. With Elixers, I usually go at least two months or more before they need to be changed. In my area there's a music store that has them for $14.95 per set. I was able to talk them into selling me 10 sets for $100.00 which makes the savings huge considering how long they last. I agree they don't start as bright as other strings but how long does that "brand new strings" sound last anyway? For me not even a whole gig.... jmho..... Frank |
Subject: RE: BS: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Murray MacLeod Date: 02 Jul 01 - 12:41 AM Frank, you are right, the "new" sound doesn't last a whole gig. That is why Martin Simpson changes his strings not only prior to each and every gig, but also during the intermission. And may I say that he used to do this even before he got the D'Addario endorsement deal. Murray |
Subject: RE: BS: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Mike Byers Date: 02 Jul 01 - 07:55 AM www.elderly.com has Elixirs at a reasonable price. I like them pretty well, but during a conversation with El McMeen yesterday, El said he thought the Nanoweb's were brighter. I haven't tried these yet, but based on his recommendation I will. |
Subject: RE: BS: Elixir Guitar Strings From: bigchuck Date: 02 Jul 01 - 08:06 AM Elixer's new strings are called nanowebs, D'Addario's are EXPs. I just tried a set of nanowebs on my new Martin (000-15S) and liked the sound a lot, but broke two strings in the first week (mediums too). I've now got a set of EXPs on, which sound good too. Hopefully they'll last longer. A number of folks on the Flatpick-L have reported breakage problems with Nanowebs also. Sandy |
Subject: RE: BS: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Whistleworks Date: 02 Jul 01 - 08:25 AM Hi everyone, I did a CD earlier this year which featured Celtic fingerstyle monster El McMeen. He uses Elixer strings exclusively. I thought his guitar (a Tippen) sounded magnificent to this whistle player's tin ear. Then, last week, El released a new CD called The Lea Rig. I am personally convinced that the Elixer strings, combined with the masterful playing of this great guy, resulted in a CD which I still have yet to remove from both my home and car CD players. If the strings had anything to do with this (I have definitely got a "tin" ear; maybe from playing too much tin whistle..??) then I'm going to get him at truckload of these. Just my $0.02. Have a wonderful week, one and all. Bob Pegritz |
Subject: RE: BS: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Whistle Stop Date: 02 Jul 01 - 09:06 AM I've had mixed experiences with the Elixirs. They do hold their tone, but it starts out slightly "muddier" than the uncoated strings I typically use. At about $15.00 a set, they are significantly more expensive than the mail-order strings I generally buy (phosphor bronze mediums, comparable to D'Addario EJ-17's, cost around $2.00 a set when I buy them in bulk). I've had two problems with the Elixirs. First is their quality control -- I have gotten more than one set where the coating on one or more strings was applied too heavily, totally killing the tone. Also, I have broken my share of these, partly because I use a lot of altered tunings, but I think they're a little more prone to breakage than my usual strings. Again, at $15 a set, these kind of problems are unacceptable. I don't use them any more, although I'll occasionally pick up a set for recording (reduced finger noise). |
Subject: RE: BS: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Bluebelle Date: 02 Jul 01 - 09:26 AM Oops, my mistake. Thanks Bigchuck for the clarification! I guess if I liked coated strings or used them, I'd know better who was making them. |
Subject: RE: BS: Elixir Guitar Strings From: marty D Date: 02 Jul 01 - 01:55 PM There sure seems to be a wide difference in price on Elixers. 40 dollars down to 14 something. Are they cheaper in the big cities? I'd try something out at the lesser price, but 40 bucks? Not a chance. marty |
Subject: RE: BS: Elixir Guitar Strings From: UB Ed Date: 02 Jul 01 - 02:00 PM Elixirs may last longer, but I think either the Dean Markley extra lights (.11) or D'Addario intially sound better. Ed |
Subject: RE: BS: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Phil Cooper Date: 02 Jul 01 - 03:25 PM I hadn't tried Elixers before, but just got a Santa Cruz OM/PW which came with a set. I like the lower finger noise, but kind of miss the phosphor bronze twang, rattle that can sometimes occur. I haven't had the heart to take the elixer's off and put on a regular set of Martin marquis. I believe I have a set of light guages on the new guitar, and think the high E is a bit too light for my taste (slips off the finger board if I'm not careful). |
Subject: RE: BS: Elixir Guitar Strings From: GUEST,MARTIN MANIAC Date: 03 Jul 01 - 01:11 AM FOR THE COST, I KNOW THERE ARE PLENTY OF EXCELLENT STRINGS OUT THERE FOR LESS MONEY. i GET MARTIN SP'S FOR 6 BUCKS AND CAN'T BEAT THE SOUND. THEY LAST QUITE A WHILE, KEPP THEIR TONE, AND HARDLY EVER BREAK, AND I POUND OUT BLUEGRASS FOR A COUPLE HOURS A WEEK. |
Subject: RE: BS: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Midchuck Date: 03 Jul 01 - 09:22 AM The original Elixrs sound good, but have a "slimy" feel that bothers me. I tried one set of EXPs and found them to be very good strings overall - just not enough better than plain-vanilla D'addario PBs to justify 2 1/2 times the price. I haven't tried the Nanowebs, but I hear a lot of talk about excessive breakage. I suspect I'll go on buying the regular D'Addario PBs as cheap as I can, and change them when they seem to need it. Just my take. Peter. |
Subject: RE: BS: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Pontiac Joe Date: 03 Jul 01 - 09:32 AM I love Elixirs I turned them on to others with the same results. Not sure where you live but $40.00 is outragous I live near Reading Pa. and the cheapest I've seen them was $ 11.99,ZESWITZ $13.00,PENN AVENUE MUSIC $14.99 FREDS WWW.FREDSMUSIC.COM you can buy them in bulk.
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Subject: RE: BS: Elixir Guitar Strings From: LR Mole Date: 03 Jul 01 - 10:23 AM I boil mine in Wildroot Creme oil and put condoms on my fingers. No, I don't. I'm fond of Earthwoods (which I think are Ernie Ball) but probably because I like the package, or something equally silly. |
Subject: RE: BS: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Fstpicker Date: 04 Jul 01 - 01:17 AM I used to use regular Elixirs. Now I use the Elixir Nanowebs and love 'em. I haven't had any breakage problem and I've played 'em for 6 weeks every day, sometimes several hours. They don't lose their coating near as much as reg. Elixirs. Tried the D'Addario EXP...pretty good but not as much bottom end depth on my dread. Try JustStrings.com for a good low price on them. |
Subject: RE: BS: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Kaleea Date: 05 Jul 01 - 01:03 AM I have used martin Marquis on my good old 1964 Gibson for 20 or so years, but heard so much about the Elixirs, I thought I would try them. I put them on, fingerpicked a couple of tunes, and a couple of days later, went to a big bluegrass jam. I got out my guitar and on the first strum broke my fourth string. Odd, I thought, I can't remember when I broke a fourth string. A couple of tunes later, I broke my sixth string. Odd, I thought, I don't ever remember breaking my sixth string in the 30-odd years I have been picking (and boy, have they been odd!). A few tunes later, the third string broke. I gave up and replaced the other three strings as well--along with the rest of the Martin Marquis package I had opened--and never looked back. The price of the Elixirs? $17.95 + tax. The cost of the Martin Marquis? $3.50 from a bargain catalog. I have deduced that the higher the cost of the strings, the higher the ratio of the breakage factor. |
Subject: RE: BS: Elixir Guitar Strings From: rush Date: 05 Jul 01 - 04:21 PM I own 2 Taylor Guitars both Dreadnoughts , a 410 & an 810. I think the 410 sounds great with Elixir Guitar Strings ( Have not checked out the Nanowebs yet ), however this 410 sounded great in the studio with D'Addairio Phosphur/Bronze medium guage as well. I will admit that Elixir strings do last a few weeks longer and maintain fairly good brightness. Now on my 810 ( which has much more bottom ,then the 410 because of the Rosewood back and sides ) , the Elixir strings sound OK , however, I need to put D'Adddario's back on this guitar ( and Martin Marquis's and John Pearce Strings ) to do a true comparison. In the States ,you can purchase on -line or via phone from JustStrings.com . The Price of Elixirs about $11.50 per set . This does not include shipping. I'm really learning that your guitar and your own subjective ear will let you know what strings are really the best !! Mike Strobel |
Subject: RE: BS: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Louie Roy Date: 05 Jul 01 - 11:41 PM The elixer Guitar string here in Oregon costs $ 13.99 and there is no tax here,but at $ 40.00 you are being ripped off.In fact I guess you could call it robbery without a gun.Louie Roy |
Subject: RE: BS: Elixir Guitar Strings From: GUEST,djh Date: 06 Jul 01 - 10:19 AM I love the elixers. I don't know if anyone else has this problem but bronze strings turn my finger tips green and black, elixers don't and they last much longer. I pay $18 for a set at local music store in NY burbs. It is worth it, I am sick of walking round with green fingers. Anyone know why some folks' fingers respond to bronze like that? |
Subject: RE: BS: Elixir Guitar Strings From: mooman Date: 06 Jul 01 - 10:48 AM Guest djh, That will be the problem some people have alluded to already, i.e. some of us are more prone to acidic sweat from our hands and fingers. This can react with the copper and other metals in bronze producing the corrosion products of the colours you describe which are then transferred to your fingers and sometimes hands, e.g. I get more of this type of staining on the heel of my rings hand when resting it just behind the bridge when playing mandolin or mandola. The same corrosion reaction can also dramatically reduce string life. I like the Elixirs on two of my main instruments both for these reasons and because they sound excellent as well. As I mentioned above, for me the higher price is more than offset by the length of time they last. Best regards mooman
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Subject: RE: BS: Elixir Guitar Strings From: GUEST,Reynardine Date: 06 Jul 01 - 08:10 PM I bought a Taylor Big Baby about a month and a half ago, which came with Elixirs. I don't like that bright tone, but after a while they rounded off a little. Something odd I've noticed; the coating seems to fray around the soundhole, and has become impregnated with what I can only hope is finger-oil/grease/dirt. It's green, as usual. PS I used to use Gibson Bronze (ultra)light on my old guitar, a cheap dreadnought, but they always broke. One set lasted less that 24 hours. I switched to medium J-200s but with the high action could barely finger an F. PPS Like djh, the J-200s used to turn my fingertips green, which has yet to happen with the Elixirs. |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: GUEST,Jayne Lloyd Guitar Teacher Date: 13 Jul 11 - 01:52 PM I use Elixir strings - they are a bit 'thuddy' sounding but they don't deteriorate from that point until the coating either peels away (nanoweb) or they become hairy (polyweb). I buy them in bulk and pay around £10 a set - they last two to three months with me playing them around 5 - 7 hours daily (so approximately 300 hours). D'addarios appear to be very shoddily annealed in the production winding and process and, coated or not, they are extremely brittle and cannot cope with the 'hammering' I have to give them - they last 3 -5 days, usually with the 'G' and the 'D' snapping in the first few hours. I buy Exlxir 12's and supplement the D nd G strings with slightly heavier guages. I've used 13's for DADGAD and other tunings - the 13's work well on a low 'F' tuning I use a lot. I loved Martin SP's but now only use them in studio - my playing has changed and I squeak when I use them. All the electric have Ernie Balls - Elixirs are no good for them. Verdict: For my style of playing and the amount of hours I play Elixir's are the only alternative I've tried the others and they don't cut it for me. Jayne xxx |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: GUEST,999 Date: 13 Jul 11 - 02:04 PM I use them on the Larrivee and they last. A bit of Fastfret from time to time and it beats paying for a new set of strings every week. |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: DonMeixner Date: 13 Jul 11 - 03:46 PM I like the way they feel. I can slide around on them which I can't do with any other brand. They sound ok. I have used the Martin Bronze Lights since 1972 and I prefer the sound of them.... or maybe its the price I prefer. I find that strings is strings and all the rest is marketing. D |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: GUEST Date: 14 Jul 11 - 07:54 AM They're the cannine's testicles. Got them on all three Martins and swear by them. Expensive yes, but why have a real quality instrument without spending a bit on the wires? Personal taste at the end of day (how unusual). |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Brian May Date: 14 Jul 11 - 12:05 PM Guest above was me, perhaps my cookie at work has been snaffled. |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: John MacKenzie Date: 14 Jul 11 - 02:39 PM I can't find any string to beat Newtones. I tried Elixir, found them too 'slippy' |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Brian May Date: 14 Jul 11 - 05:01 PM Yep, I liked Newtones too, but must admit (for me) the Elixirs have it. I had a couple of Newtones that actually unravelled from the ball end - I've never seen that before. I've got a set of Newtone DADGAD strings knocking around if anyone wants them. PM me if you you're interested (UK only). I'll be sticking with Elixirs between now and death |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Louie Roy Date: 14 Jul 11 - 10:09 PM I've used the elixirs light gauge on both of my guitars the acoustic and the electric and in my opinion there isn't a better string on the market today however this again is up to the opinion of all other guitar players |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: GUEST Date: 15 Jul 11 - 06:53 AM Great for 6 and 12 string guitars If they |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: GUEST,999 Date: 15 Jul 11 - 12:16 PM One drawback to Elixirs is that they do not have the 'brightness' of many other strings. The coating likely accounts for that. However, I'm from a time when strings were about $3.00 a set. Today . . . Of course, I'm also from a time when jujubes were four for a penny (Canadian penny). |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: skarpi Date: 15 Jul 11 - 05:21 PM Elixirs strings are ok , but cost lung and liver here in iceland about 80$ so I don´t use them , I use spectrum or daddario |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Zen Date: 15 Jul 11 - 06:54 PM I used to use them on one guitar and liked them but now prefer Cleartones which have a thinner coating. I use flatwounds on my other (archtop) guitar. |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: GUEST,999 Date: 15 Jul 11 - 07:00 PM How long will the Cleartones last for, Zen. |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Mark Ross Date: 15 Jul 11 - 08:03 PM To 999; $3 a set? The Folklore Center sets were a buck and a half I seem to remember. Mark Ross |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: John MacKenzie Date: 16 Jul 11 - 04:25 AM That's appropriate Mark. It's halfway between a Loonie and a Toonie. |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: John MacKenzie Date: 16 Jul 11 - 04:56 AM Skarpi, what gauge you use, I may have some Elixirs spare. |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Zen Date: 16 Jul 11 - 05:57 AM Guest,999... the Cleartones seem to be more or less equivalent to Elixirs in longevity. |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: skarpi Date: 16 Jul 11 - 08:42 AM I use 0,11 on my 6 string but 0,10 on my 12 string |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Musket Date: 16 Jul 11 - 09:16 AM I started using them when I bought my Rainsong, as a new set came with the guitar, (plus the ones on from the factory were unused.) Since then, I have found them excellent on every guitar other than a Jim Harley dreadnought I use occasionally. For that, they are too bright. Also, as this is the only acoustic I use a plectrum on, I like a heavier string. Elixir seem to shine better on the lighter strings, or is it just me? The longevity is one aspect, but I also find they squeak less when sliding up and down the frets. Some feel the squeak is part of the music, I don't. Hence I love them. I buy quite a few strings and although they last a long time, I still get through a few sets a month all told and have found a supplier on Amazon seems to give best price / delivery. |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: GUEST,999 Date: 17 Jul 11 - 08:03 AM Mark, your memory's better 'n mine. But those were the days of Marlboro being $.35 a pack when ice still covered much of North America . . . . Zen, many thanks. I'll give them a try. Appreciate the input. |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: GUEST,shayleen Date: 07 Nov 13 - 06:56 AM I agree with Murray over Elixir though etring preference is a personal thing. I use La Bella and /Gibson strings. Elixirs in the Uk cost around 16 pounds a set for the nenowebs :-) |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Betsy Date: 07 Nov 13 - 07:23 PM I've got a couple of Martins - wouldn't dream of buying Martin Strings as I think they go dead too quickly. Tried Elixir they're OK but don't have the crispness of D'Addario 11 > 52 Phosphor bronze which suit me in all departments of sound ,price and longevity. Horses for courses I suppose - what suits one may not suit others , but the price is also fairly restrictive so the manufacturers may need to think again. I am reminded of an old mate of mine who used to used to sell Christmas trees during THAT particular season. When asked by older women (Mams and Grandmas) why he charges slightly more for his trees ,he replied "They've been specially treated to avoid the needles falling off". What do you treat them with asked the old ladies ," Ah " came the reply " It's a special chemical which is not dangerous in the household setting - and it's called H 2 O ". Notwithstanding water , I feel that Elixir might be a fad that is being totally overpriced / marketing. I won't be buying anymore |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Will Fly Date: 08 Nov 13 - 03:57 AM I've said this on other threads regarding Elixir strings, but I'll repeat it here. I have hands that kill conventional phosphor bronze strings stone dead in a day - just skin acidity. Elixir Nanowebs last me 6-8 weeks, depending on the current playing level; even when starting to shred the coating down over the soundhole area, they still sound reasonable. So, on pure economics alone - from my perspective - even if Elixirs are double the price of other strings (and the price in the UK has been affected by rising postage costs), I'm still getting better value from them than other makes. I've also tried D'Addario and they didn't last me either. If you don't have the acidic skin problem, or you're happy with dead strings - which many guitarists prefer - then that equation might not work for you. But it does for me. |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: GUEST,Shayleen Date: 08 Feb 16 - 09:04 AM Elixir strings are good. I preter d'addario exp. Dr sunbeam are quiite good and work well on rosewood/sitka guitars like the martin d35 :-) |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Brian Peters Date: 08 Feb 16 - 10:11 AM I've used Elixir for years now (same reason as Will Fly)and been very happy with them, but in an attempt to cut costs I recently bought a pack of three sets off Ebay for something resembling a cut price. The first set went dead after one gig. The second set nearly as bad. Not sure whether they are fakes - the packaging looks authentic enough. Be warned. |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Will Fly Date: 08 Feb 16 - 10:43 AM That's odd, Brian - I've also bought a 3-pack set, from one of the usual Amazon suppliers, and so far the first set is holding up nicely. They were no cheaper after postage, though. The pack was the .012-.053 Phosphor Bronze Nanoweb type. For my smaller 0 model guitar, I use the .011-.052 set - also Nanoweb, but just Bronze, not Phosphor Bronze. The Tenor guitar takes the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th string from a standard .010 Phosphor Bronze Nanowen set - but I use any old .009 as a first, as the .010 top string from the set is on the edge of snapping if overtightened. (Tenor tuning is CGDA). It's always possible that quality control varies, even with the best of firms. There was a period some years ago when the 3rd and 4th Elixirs from the .012 set were snapping very quickly. I and several other players formally complained to Elixir's European office - and they seemed to improve, but probably coincidentally! |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Brian Peters Date: 08 Feb 16 - 11:00 AM I just did a search, Will, and it seems I'm not the first: Counterfeit Elixir strings Just to stress, they were bought from Ebay, not Amazon. I've never had a bad set before. |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Will Fly Date: 08 Feb 16 - 11:44 AM Thanks for that info, Brian - appreciated, and I'll keep a watch out in future. |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Mike Strobel Date: 22 Jul 20 - 12:57 PM Ah, guitar strings..............I've used Elixir strings ( both medium and lights ) for 20 plus years. They sound great ( in my opinion ) on 2 Taylor guitars , 716 CE and 410 and 1 Eastman Accoustic guitar I own. Currently , over the past 2 to 3 years I buy ELIXIR strings in 3 or 4 packs from Amazon for around $40--$43.00 in USA currency. |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: GUEST,Sol Date: 25 Mar 21 - 07:15 PM I bought a set of Elixirs of EBay(and yes,I know). Anyway, the top E string just wouldn't tune up. Whenever it reached the right pitch it stretched and went way out of tune.(Much more than the expected bedding-in stretch). After around a dozen re-tunes over several minutes, it snapped at the machine-head post. I have emailed Elixir Customer Service four or five times since the start of the year for comment however, apart from two auto-replies of "We'll be in touch" I've had no reponse whatsoever. Even allowing for Covid, this is a pretty poor show re. customer relations. Has anybody else had the cold shoulder treatment from Elixir? I've been using their strings regularly for the past 10 years or so, but no more - finito. |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Backwoodsman Date: 26 Mar 21 - 02:47 AM ”I bought a set of Elixirs of EBay” There’s your answer. eBay is notorious for counterfeit guitar strings. Caveat Emptor. Don’t be a skinflint, buy your strings direct from a reputable dealer, help keep a genuine business up and running, and have certainty that what you buy is the Real Deal. |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: GUEST,Nick Dow Date: 26 Mar 21 - 03:42 AM I was caught out that way, when my daughter bought some for me. I contacted the company and they had been broken in to, and packaging stolen. The boxes were changed some years ago after the break in, and have a new logo or what ever it's called that changes in the light. Is it Hologram ? Please excuse this old fart. |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: GUEST,Sol Date: 27 Mar 21 - 08:55 AM Thank you Backwoodsman & Nick for your comments. The Latin lesson was very welcome too - everyday's a schoolday. :-) |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: gillymor Date: 27 Mar 21 - 09:32 AM I tried Elixirs on an acoustic guitar some time back and didn't really care for the sound or the feel. I went through 3 sets over the course of about a year and was happier when I went back to Daddario phos. bronze. I had never done anything to my guitar necks apart for rubbing on some Fret Ease now and then and cleaning them with a Scunge until a few years ago a friend introduced me to Duck's Ax Wax which I apply to the neck and strings whenever I change them. It eliminates squeak, gives the neck and strings a silky feel and definitely prolongs string life. Just my experience. |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Fred Date: 29 Jul 25 - 12:14 PM Was told today that Elixir take ANY strings and just add their coating. If that's true, how can buyers be sure of the quality? What do you think of this? It came from a source who should know. But, surely, they're having a laugh? -F |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: GUEST,Ray Date: 29 Jul 25 - 05:08 PM Sounds like an urban myth from somebody who doesn’t like them. I’ve always found them OK. If they were really bad, nobody would buy them. How exactly would your source know? |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: GUEST,DonMeixner Date: 29 Jul 25 - 05:59 PM I like Elixir Nanoweb strings just fine. But I like Martin Bronze Lite 80/20's too. Don |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Fred Date: 29 Jul 25 - 06:55 PM Ray & Don The source is a major string supplier in the UK. However, I'm not sure that the comments were meant to be taken seriously, as they stock and sell Elixir. I've bought Elixir in the past and, in fact, I'm expecting a set in the mail tomorrow. I don't recall having a problem with 'em. -F |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Backwoodsman Date: 30 Jul 25 - 12:53 AM My understanding (and I’m not sure where I got it from - tired old grey cells) is that Elixir’s strings come from Mapes Strings in Tennessee, the largest producer of instrument strings in the US, and the supplier of wire to a number of other string-makers. Can’t guarantee that this is fact, but I’m pretty certain I read it somewhere, some time ago. |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Backwoodsman Date: 30 Jul 25 - 02:38 AM Should have said “one of the largest suppliers…” |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Fred Date: 30 Jul 25 - 06:39 AM BWM - That is My understanding, too. If Elixir just grabbed any from anywhere and added their coating, there'd be a quality issue and that would reflect badly on sales, as Ray there said -F |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: wendyg Date: 30 Jul 25 - 09:23 AM I have tried them and liked them very much. But they don't add value for me over ordinary phosphor bronze because my hands don't sweat that much and that's not why my strings wear. My strings suffer because I retune a lot, and the Elixirs don't have any technical defense against that. wg |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Fred Date: 30 Jul 25 - 11:42 AM Wendyg - When you say "retune", do you mean you use standard and alternate tunings, or is it that your strings slip out of tune? -F |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: GUEST,Ray Date: 30 Jul 25 - 12:29 PM I assume you mean “alternative” Fred. Alternate tuning would be something like EAEAEA or BEBEBE! I tend to use them on guitars that don’t get played very often and they last for ever - or at least until they go hairy. I never used them but they stopped selling mandolin sets a couple of years ago. I get the impression that the coating is some form of Goretex which would make them part Scottish! |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: GUEST,gillymor Date: 30 Jul 25 - 12:37 PM Whatever happened to Nashville Straights, they came uncoiled in 3' packages and were the best and longest lasting I ever used. |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Fred Date: 30 Jul 25 - 02:11 PM Ray - I DID mean alternative tuning and thought I'd put that lol. And yes, it is Goretex coating. Gilly - Heard of Nashville Straights but don't believe I've ever seen any. -F |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: GUEST,gillymor Date: 30 Jul 25 - 04:03 PM They weren't on the market long, Fred. You can still get straight strings in bulk but I don't change strings often enough to make it practical. I haven't heard that Elixir rumor but it seems like folks have been forever saying that all strings come from the same manufacturer, I don't know anything about that. Down the page I gave Elixirs a negative review but when I tried them they had just come on the market, things may have changed since. I did get some D'adarrio XTs for Xmas and I didn't like them as much as their standard Phos. Brnz. |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Fred Date: 30 Jul 25 - 05:19 PM Gilly - I tried D'Addario XT and, like you, didn't like 'em. Their XS I liked, though. DR Sunbeam is another I got on well with. -F |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: GUEST,Ray Date: 30 Jul 25 - 05:28 PM Nashville Straights sounded great on my D18 but, from memory, they were slightly more expensive than d’Addario. I suspect that the extra cost was to pay for the ridiculous packaging! |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Sol Date: 30 Jul 25 - 06:19 PM I bought a set of Elixir's several years ago on Ebay. (Yes, yes, I know!). The first string kept on stretching until it snapped during installation. I wrote to Elixir and included the broken string. They sent me a new set of strings + a key ring + two 'Elixir' stickers for my case. I wrote back asking them if they tested the string to see if it was a fake however, they never replied. FWIW, I haven't bought Elixirs on ebay since. |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: wendyg Date: 31 Jul 25 - 05:41 AM Fred, I mean changing tunings. As per here: https://www.pelicancrossing.net/tunings.htm. wg |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Fred Date: 31 Jul 25 - 12:07 PM Ray - You once asked me to comment on the Peterson Strobo-Clip HD. I've always found it excellent. As well as its incredible 0.1 Cent accuracy, it has "sweetener" tuning modes. It's an expensive bit of kit - and, of course, if you have a well-trained ear, some would argue that you don't need it. That said, as a clip-on, it's hard to beat, and I have 3! -F |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: GUEST,Ray Date: 31 Jul 25 - 05:37 PM Thanks Fred, as I’ve probably said before, I have one of the earlier Stroboclips but I’ve never really got on with it. It’s not a patch on the big blue Peterson but I don’t have a guitar case pocket big enough to hold it and it’s fitted rubber boot. I’ve been looking for a Polytune clip on for a while now but I’ve yet to find one. None of the few music shops we have left have them and anywhere on line semms to quote delivery dates a couple of months hence. Thankfully I’m not desparate. |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Backwoodsman Date: 01 Aug 25 - 03:16 AM TC Electronics Unitune Clip - chromatic, very accurate, nice bright display. The only drawback is that the clip doesn’t swivel, but I’ve found that in practice it’s no big deal. https://www.andertons.co.uk/tc-electronic-unitune-clip/ I have both the original Peterson StroboClip and the StroboClip HD - both are a fiddly, expensive PITA, they are way too sensitive to use in any situation where there’s external noise (like, for instance, a session, or a club in a pub) and I never use either of them. AFAIC the TCE Unitune beats both into fits. Of course that’s IMHO, and YMMV. |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: GUEST,Ray Date: 01 Aug 25 - 03:48 AM Never tried the Unitune - I want the Polytune ‘cos I already have one. |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Backwoodsman Date: 01 Aug 25 - 05:14 AM Ray, I also have a PolyTune Clip but it doesn’t do anything I need that I don’t get from the Unitune. Apart from the PolyTune Clip’s ‘one strum’ thing (that doesn’t work and is crap), they’re no different, and the Unitune is cheaper. Anderton’s have the PolyTune Clip |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Fred Date: 01 Aug 25 - 07:50 AM All I use a clip-on for is to get one string up to pitch, preferably the G. Once that's done, I rely on my ear. No matter what tuner you use, you'll need to fine tune by ear to some degree. To help me tap tune my banjo head, I use the red Snark. Why? Cos of its sensitivity. No other tuner (I know of) will register the note heard behind the tap, but the red Snark does it very well. Cheers -F |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Fred Date: 01 Aug 25 - 08:51 AM Ray - To read up about the Peterson Strobo-Clip HD (and the ones BWM mentions above) try SixStringAcoustic.Com. it has a lot of interesting stuff. -F |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Backwoodsman Date: 01 Aug 25 - 11:57 AM I find the so-called ‘sweeteners’ of the Peterson tuners pretty useless - I’ve tried the ‘ACU’ sweetener (a.k.a. the ‘James Taylor’ tuning) on my guitars, and it sounded out of tune, likewise I tried the ‘mandolin’ sweetener on my Fylde mandolin, and it was pretty ‘sour’. I gave up on their ‘sweeteners’ and just used the ‘EQU’ (Equal Temperament) setting, which sounds the most in tune of the lot. Re: tuning by ear…I frequently tune by ear at home - I’ve been doing it since 1961, so I’ve had a fair bit of practice! ;-) But that’s really not practical for gigs, sessions, clubs in pubs, etc., and I prefer the TCE PolyTune/Unitune over the Petersons because they’re simpler, more stable, and have a better, brighter display. But we all have our own preferences, and all are perfectly valid - my ears and eyes aren’t your ears and eyes, and it’s quite rightly a case of ‘whatever floats yer boat’. |
Subject: RE: Elixir Guitar Strings From: Fred Date: 01 Aug 25 - 06:40 PM BWM - BTW, what happened with that McNally - all sorted now? Got a few Midlands Luthiers & techs, should you need 'em. -F |
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