BS: Dogs in pubs

Subject: RE: BS: New dawg in the house…
From: Raggytash
Date: 13 Sep 24 - 12:45 PM

I am puzzled by dog ownership.

In Ireland I seldom see a dog in a bar, it's quite unusual where I live.

However, in England, it seems the whole world and it's dog, take the dog to the pub and it is considered quite normal to do so, even when they are badly behaved.

I wonder why there is such a marked contrast between the two countries.

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This post was moved from the thread mentioned by DtG in the next message. ---mudelf

Subject: BS: Dogs in pubs
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Sep 24 - 03:20 AM

In another thread, the following comment was made and I think it deserves a discussion all of its own

"I am puzzled by dog ownership.

In Ireland I seldom see a dog in a bar, it's quite unusual where I live.

However, in England, it seems the whole world and it's dog, take the dog to the pub and it is considered quite normal to do so, even when they are badly behaved.

I wonder why there is such a marked contrast between the two countries"

I would add the even in England it is quite regional. Where I used to live in the suburbs of Manchester I did not see many dogs in pubs but where I am now in semi-rural Yorkshire there are many. In fact a lot of pubs have bowls of water for dogs and keep treats on the bar for them.

I can't say I have ever noticed many dogs in European or American bars but I am not too well travelled.

Subject: RE: BS: New dawg in the house…
From: The Sandman
Date: 14 Sep 24 - 04:15 AM

I have seen dogs in bars in the part of ireland i live in.
none have learned to order a pint,yet,
they are a potential hazard, but so far they have all been well behaved

Subject: RE: BS: Dogs in pubs
From: The Sandman
Date: 14 Sep 24 - 04:15 AM

i frequently see dogs in bars in ireland.

Subject: RE: BS: Dogs in pubs
From: Raggytash
Date: 14 Sep 24 - 07:58 AM

I know this is only one example but I'll mention it because I know Dave has been in the bar and I suspect Dick MAY also have been in the bar which is the front bar of the Black Horse in Whitby.

It is a tiny room with seating about 20 people, on one occasion I was in there were 18 people and 20, yes 20, dogs.

Subject: RE: BS: Dogs in pubs
From: gillymor
Date: 14 Sep 24 - 08:20 AM

I've never seen a dog in a bar, with the exception of a service dog or two. I love dogs, though I haven't had one since I moved into a condo, but I don't think it's fair, or healthy, to subject patrons to doggie hair and dander and to the little puddles and land mines that they're sure to leave behind.

Subject: RE: BS: Dogs in pubs
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Sep 24 - 08:33 AM

Bloody Hell. Raggy! That is a lot of dogs for the size of place.

The White Lion in Swinton, where you were a week or two back, used to have a few doggie patrons when I first started going but I have not seen any in there for years. It was the first pub I had a legal pint in - although I had been going in about 2 years before I was 18 - much to the landlords chargrin :-D

The White Lion at Kildwick - Just up the road from where I am now - always has a few dogs in even though it serves food as well. It's funny to see them waiting under the table for their owners to drop something :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Dogs in pubs
From: The Sandman
Date: 14 Sep 24 - 09:22 AM

I have been in that bar, no dogs that i remember, and i must echo Daves comments about the number of dogs for the size

Subject: RE: BS: Dogs in pubs
From: Thompson
Date: 14 Sep 24 - 09:32 AM

Animal neglect and cruelty is a problem in Ireland, though there are many loving dog owners.

Subject: RE: BS: Dogs in pubs
From: keberoxu
Date: 14 Sep 24 - 10:09 AM

The following dog-in-pub story comes from one of my music teachers.

My teacher was studying in Holland.
On one day, I don't know which day,
they were remembering the second World War.
One minute of silence was to be observed in the early evening.
When that one minute arrived, my teacher, with many others,
was in a local pub. Someone had their dog with them.

Sixty seconds of silence is a long time, if you sit through it.
So all the humans in the pub dutifully sat in silence.
Maybe forty seconds into that minute,
a poor dog began growling with anxiety under the table.
Couldn't help itself, poor thing, and didn't know what was happening.

Subject: RE: BS: Dogs in pubs
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Sep 24 - 11:52 AM

Awwww, poor thing must have thought it had gone deaf!

Subject: RE: BS: Dogs in pubs
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 14 Sep 24 - 02:44 PM

This is the first part of my post on the other thread. It didn't get moved here because there were also good wishes to BWM. I am reposting the relevant part here.

... the whole world and it's dog, take the dog to the pub ...

Not the whole world!

I have had dogs for most of the last 40 years. My current dog is a one year old golden retriever. I have never been comfortable taking my dogs into pubs, cafes or shops. I might consider taking my dog into a pub garden if I can find a table around the edge and would always keep it lying down on the lead. I go into a pub to relax but I find I can't relax if I am spending my time worrying that my dog is bothering other people. As far as I am concerned, my dog and other people's food and drink don't mix. The funny thing is, other people's dogs don't bother me at all

Guide dogs and other assistance dogs are a special case and should always be accommodated.

DC

Subject: RE: BS: Dogs in pubs
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 15 Sep 24 - 03:35 AM

One of my retirement ambitions was to have a dog that farts in the pub. I never achieved it :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Dogs in pubs
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 15 Sep 24 - 03:43 AM

I’ve had one that farts at home. And now I’ve got another… :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Dogs in pubs
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 15 Sep 24 - 03:50 AM

DC - I’ve always taken my old Border Terrier into pubs and cafés where dogs are allowed. He was always quiet, he always lay down under our table, and other customers often remarked as we left that they hadn’t realised we had a dog with us.

Mrs Backwoodswoman and I weren’t able to have children, and we regard our dog as our family. He was far, far better-behaved than many of the children whose parents brought them into those pubs and cafés, and he didn’t throw food around and leave the place looking like an explosion in a food factory the way some of them did. ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Dogs in pubs
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 15 Sep 24 - 04:13 AM

In my own area there has been a noticeable increase over the past three or four years in eateries and drinkeries which allow dogs on to their premises.

I haven’t been to Ireland (remiss of me, I know, but hey-ho) so I can’t comment on practices there, but here in England I think that, over recent years, many pub-landlords/managers and café proprietors have realised that, by not allowing dogs into their establishments, they have been wilfully turning away a significant revenue-stream. And I’m sure that Covid lockdowns resulted in many more people owning pets, especially dogs, so that revenue-stream has increased significantly.

Subject: RE: BS: Dogs in pubs
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 15 Sep 24 - 05:34 AM

"One of my retirement ambitions was to have a dog that farts in the pub."

Sounds my sort of cabaret...

Subject: RE: BS: Dogs in pubs
From: Geoff Wallis
Date: 15 Sep 24 - 01:02 PM

I'd be much happier about dogs in pubs if one of them ever bought a round.

Subject: RE: BS: Dogs in pubs
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 15 Sep 24 - 01:20 PM

”I'd be much happier about dogs in pubs if one of them ever bought a round.”

I’m perfectly happy as long as their owners buy a round…

Subject: RE: BS: Dogs in pubs
From: Neil D
Date: 18 Sep 24 - 04:30 AM

All dogs fart. That's why it's so easy to blame our farts on Rover.

Subject: RE: BS: Dogs in pubs
From: The Sandman
Date: 18 Sep 24 - 04:39 AM

some pubs have Hot Dogs

Subject: RE: BS: Dogs in pubs
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 18 Sep 24 - 10:55 AM

DTG, please clarify:
One of my retirement ambitions was to have a dog that farts in the pub. I never achieved it :-)
What didn't you achieve?
1, getting such a dog
2, farting in the pub.

Subject: RE: BS: Dogs in pubs
From: The Sandman
Date: 18 Sep 24 - 04:12 PM

As I understand it, encouraging dogs to fart in a pub, is cruelty to animals.

Subject: RE: BS: Dogs in pubs
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 18 Sep 24 - 04:53 PM

Nah, it's cruelty to drinkers.

I never got a dog, Nigel, so it could never fart in a pub. As to whether I have farted in the pub, that's a whole new thread:-D

Subject: RE: BS: Dogs in pubs
From: The Sandman
Date: 18 Sep 24 - 05:15 PM

too much information