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Tune Req: Widdlecombe Fair DigiTrad: BEGGARS TO GOD DONNYBROOK FAIR TOM PIERCE (TAM PEARSE) WIDDECOMBE FAIR Related threads: (origins) Origins: Widecombe Fair / Widdecombe Fair (28) REQ: Old Uncle Tom Cobbleigh and all... (4) Lyr Req: Widdicome Fair - Peter Who? (40) Lyr Add: Widdecombe Fair (Show of Hands) (34) Ballad Tom Pierce (28) (DTStudy) DTStudy Donnybrook Fair / Widdecombe Fair (23) Chords Req: Widdecombe Fair (9) |
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Subject: Tune Req: Widdlecombe Fair From: Gray D Date: 01 Nov 03 - 08:14 AM Mention of this tune on the Beeb 2 folk board and a possible site to hear it has sparked my interest. Diane Easby says you can hear it at the DR. Faustus site but I couldn't find it. Wassa URL? Gray D |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Widdlecombe Fair From: Gray D Date: 01 Nov 03 - 08:15 AM And NO! ITS NOT "Widdecombe Fair"! Gray D |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Widdlecombe Fair From: The Borchester Echo Date: 01 Nov 03 - 10:20 AM Hello Gray Now you've discovered my alter ego! You're quite right, they've taken the MP3 off the site. Shame, 'cos it's a really, really good tune. I recommend you email their webmaster aka Rob Harbron at their site http://www.drfaustus.co.uk I'd email you the MP3 but my internet has crashed and I'm doing this on my mobile. For the benefit of the rest of you that can get to London, Dr Faustus are co-billed on the Jim Moray Smoke and Mirrors concert at the ICA next Monday, November 3. Cheers Diane |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Widdlecombe Fair From: Joe Offer Date: 01 Nov 03 - 02:29 PM I've linked this thread with the ones on "Widdecombe Fair" so people might notice there's a difference. Can anybody post the lyrics of "Widdlecombe Fair," or at least give us more information about the song? Is it a recent composition? Who recorded it? Note mention of "Widdlecombe" in this thread. -Joe Offer- I don't know if this is the requested song, but it's an interesting variation of "Widdecombe Fair." WIDDLECOMBE FAIR
Recorded by the singer, Tom Brown his home in Worksop, Nottinghamshire, mid-1980's Source: volume 7 of the CD collection Voice of the People, "First I'm Going to Sing You a Ditty." |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Widdlecombe Fair From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 01 Nov 03 - 03:39 PM The BBC Radio 2 discussion seemed to refer to two distinct songs: a modern one written by Steve Knightley of "Show of Hands" (of which I know nothing), and another, the subject of this thread, recorded by "Dr Faustus", which I imagine is an arrangement of a traditional song belonging to the Coudingham Fair group (see DT Study thread above. The Donnybrook Fair of that thread is not the common song or dance tune, but a localised example of the unrelated song about beggars, found in Essex, as it happens. That didn't stop a lot of people insisting on posting information about the other, completely unrelated, songs of that title, though). At a guess, the song in question here would be either the set Joe has just posted words for, or else Harry Cox's Widdliecombe Fair. Perhaps Diane will tell us more. Just in case anyone might misunderstand, Tom Brown's song isn't a version of Widecombe Fair but a member of the Coudingham Fair group. It's very close textually to the Harry Cox set; I wonder if it might have been learned from him? |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Widdlecombe Fair From: Fran Date: 02 Nov 03 - 06:40 AM Here is the Lyrics for the Steve Knightley version: It was early dawn when we met out on a hillside on our way to Widdecombe Fair To drink ourselves dry make a big noise there Six Devon lads with a young boy Whose mother has said "Promise now You'll watch for him He's never slept out of home before And you know to well there'll be trouble in store I gave her my word and we crossed the moor It was growing dark when we stopped at the inn When we saw her Fair-Faced in the candle Such a fine sight with her long black hair Young Billy stared and she stared right back But the landlord said she's spoken for He said leave me here alone I'll meet you tomorrow on your way back home at the cross roads At noon on the Whiddon Down Road You go and I'll stay You boys go and I'll stay I said take my watch and chain we all hit the road again Four miles to the fairground we had a fine time there Next day we waited in the rain at the crossroads But the boy never came I said you go ahead I returned to the inn But the landlord said the last thing seen was a boy and a girl Out on the moor that was all he knew I called and I cried God knows I tried Until the long night came His mother flew at me she called me names Scratched my face said I was too blame And asked would she ever see her sweet sweet son again Well a year went by without one sign Back at the inn to see what I'd find And the wind whistled cold on the moor that night I thought I saw a couple in the pale moonlight The landlord said it's you again And from his pocket hung down my watch and chain Tom I sat down on a stone and I cried knowing full well that the young lad died Tom Tom lend me your grey mare I want to go back to Widdecombe fair With Bill, Jan, Peter and Dan, Harry and Pete On the moors we'll meet All along down along out along lee All along down along out along lee |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Widdlecombe Fair From: GUEST Date: 03 Nov 03 - 03:46 AM Au sommet |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Widdlecombe Fair From: The Borchester Echo Date: 03 Nov 03 - 10:53 AM Yes, Malcolm, the Widdlecombe Fair that Dr Faustus do is the version posted by Joe, with an additional verse: cobbler/wax/balls of wax. It isn't recorded yet, at least not on CD. As far as I am aware, they got it from Voice of the People but I can ask them tonight. |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Widdlecombe Fair From: Schantieman Date: 03 Nov 03 - 12:00 PM I learned this (Joe's version) years and years ago from Johnny Collins (I think) singing it on the radio. I'd forgotten all about it - have to re-learn it and start singing it again. Thanks!! Steve |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Widdlecombe Fair From: The Borchester Echo Date: 04 Nov 03 - 11:31 AM Tim van Eyken has confirmed that the source of the Dr Faustus version of Widdlecombe Fair was indeed Voice of the People. Schantieman, do start singing it again. It's a great song and a great tune especially with the Dr Faustus instrumental arrangement, and great fun. |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Widdlecombe Fair From: AllisonA(Animaterra) Date: 04 Nov 03 - 04:42 PM Little Johnny England does this too. |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Widdlecombe Fair From: GUEST,Steve Date: 05 Nov 03 - 07:26 AM Which? |
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