Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: GUEST Date: 22 Jul 13 - 06:26 AM Ballyshannon Lane |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: mg Date: 21 Jul 13 - 09:18 PM Kerryman..if I make it to Ireland this fall which I hope to either in late September or mid November..can I meet you and your wife in the Tom Crean Inn in Annascoul..I think he might be a distant relative of mine. |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: GUEST,Sean Fear Date: 21 Jul 13 - 07:51 PM Already been named but gotta go with Óró sé do Bheatha Abhaile Penned by Pearse using the tune form an old wedding song which welcomed a bride and groom to their new life together. He used it to welcome Irish men and women home from all over the world to fight for Ireland |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: Dead Horse Date: 21 Jul 13 - 07:00 PM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW31yYLSmoc Nuff said. |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: GUEST Date: 21 Jul 13 - 06:35 PM The Foggy Dew by luke kelly has to be the best rebel song ever!! or even him singing the risin of the moon, another few im suprised that wasnt mentioned was join the british army, padraic pearse, rock on rockall, god save ireland and let the people sing. great songs but i really love luke singing the foggy dew it really is perfection |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: maple_leaf_boy Date: 01 Feb 11 - 08:09 PM By the Wolfe Tones: "Some Say The Devil Is Dead", "Go On Home British Soldiers", "and "You'll Never Beat The Irish". |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: GUEST,Kerryman Date: 01 Feb 11 - 06:29 PM For me it would have to be the Dying Rebel. I was sat in the South Pole Inn, former home of, Tom Crean one of the greatest heroes Ireland produced, last year playing a few songs on my guitar when an old guy in his mid eighties, sang the song and the passion, sentiment and sadness that came across in his voice had me realising that although he can't have been present, it must have had a direct effect on him personally because tears were descending his cheeks as he sang. Maybe a family member had suffered in the rising but whatever it was his grief was personal apart from that he showed whilst singing the song I'd never heard the song before but learned to play it and it has become a favourite song of mine. I vote The Dying Rebel and thank an old man for introducing me to a beautiful song sang with meaning. |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: Tattie Bogle Date: 17 Apr 10 - 08:25 PM Four Green Fields - mentioned at least 3 times already (Gnu read previous posts!) -very symbolic and wistful. Otherwise "The Foggy Dew". The antidote? "The Orange and the Green". |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: GUEST Date: 17 Apr 10 - 07:56 PM I love that tale of when The Dubliners were playing in America in the 70's people were shouting,'Play us a rebel song !' ad in finitum and Luke Kelly replied,'I'm sorry, we don't know any songs in vietnamese!'..think about it.... |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: GUEST Date: 17 Apr 10 - 01:05 PM Toss-up between 'The Foggy Dew' and 'Down by the Glenside' (Unless 'The Man fron God Knows Where' counts as a rebel song).
Thanks. -Joe Offer- |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: GUEST Date: 17 Apr 10 - 12:47 PM Definitely Joe McDonnell. Surprised that was only suggested once. And I quite enjoy Fields of Athenry. Although I listen to the song in a very different mood (Dropkick Murphy) Black 'n Tans and Go on Home British Soldiers are favorites too of course. James Ferrin |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: gnu Date: 04 Oct 09 - 03:47 PM I dunno if this was posted before... Four Green Fields? |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: Old Vermin Date: 04 Oct 09 - 03:34 PM Locally 'Fields of Athenry' gets done to death. |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: Murpholly Date: 04 Oct 09 - 10:38 AM Just discovered this thread and could add several to the lists, perhaps Adhadoe, Arbour Hill and for humour as well Young Willie Joe McFadden. However, am trying to trace words and music to The Pride of Sweet Clogheen. Does anyone out there know of this or have the words. |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies) Date: 04 Oct 09 - 08:12 AM I think it's wise to attempt to tread carefully with potentially highly sensitive material in songs. As a 2nd generation English descendant of Irish family who had first hand experience of the troubles, I started a thread a while back asking for advice when considering the pro's and con's of exploring Rebel Songs myself: Irish Rebel Songs as Social Document. Some of the helpful and thoughtful responses from posters on that thread, might be pertinent here. |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: Tim Leaning Date: 04 Oct 09 - 07:14 AM There are loads of great tunes and Lovely lyrics How about the songs sung at fund raisers for the IRA? Sam Missiles in the sky and the rest? Of course we of the oppressing nation may not approve... |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: Stringsinger Date: 03 Oct 09 - 07:17 PM Tommy Sands' "There Were Roses" and "Music of Healing". |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: robomatic Date: 02 Oct 09 - 11:34 PM Alaska Mike: You wrote exactly what I was thinking |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: Amergin Date: 02 Oct 09 - 10:06 PM A couple I really like are Sniper's Promise, Kinky Boots, and Joe McDonnell..... |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: GUEST,O'Boyle88 Date: 02 Oct 09 - 09:49 PM Undoubtedly "Farewell To Bellaghy". |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: Big Tim Date: 14 Aug 09 - 03:34 AM 'Back Home in Derry' was written by Bobby Sands. |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: Dave the Gnome Date: 14 Aug 09 - 01:06 AM I'd go for 'Delaney's Donkey'. It makes me rebel against the Irish anyway... :D (eG) |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: mark gregory Date: 14 Aug 09 - 12:05 AM For me it's hard to go past Back Home in Derry listen to Christy Moore (did he write the tune?) on youtube at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g1uY1GI20k |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: GUEST,MtheGM Date: 13 Aug 09 - 08:30 AM My suggestion a week ago of Johnson's Motor Car was denounced by someone as unworthy as its content was immoral and subversive. I rejoined by naming some of the admired and wholly respectable singers who had not found it so and had performed it. This part of the correspondence appears to have been removed from the thread. Might I enquire why? |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: Lighter Date: 09 Aug 09 - 01:02 PM Gotta be "O'Donnell Aboo." A friend of mine used to think it had a howling werewolf in it. (It's really only a "war wolf.") |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: Stringsinger Date: 09 Aug 09 - 11:00 AM ireland needs a new kind of rebel. Tommy Sands wrote two beautiful songs that to me represent what should happen in Irish patriotic circles............................ "There Were Roses" and "The Music of Healing" Frank |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: Jim Carroll Date: 07 Aug 09 - 02:58 AM O'Hara, Hughes,McCreesh and Sands. Jim Carroll |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: GUEST,MtheGM Date: 06 Aug 09 - 10:09 PM Can't believe that nobody has ever suggested "Johnson's Motor Car"! |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: Rog Peek Date: 06 Aug 09 - 06:55 PM My wife had an Aunt, Sr. Joseph, known to the family as Auntie Nun. She was born and brought up in Co. Cork. and her favourite was of course "The Boys from the County Cork". She lived to celebrate her diamond jubilee God rest her soul. My own favourite is probably "Erin's Lovely Lee". Rog |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: GUEST,HelenJ. Date: 06 Aug 09 - 04:30 PM Bold Fenian Men |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: GUEST Date: 06 Aug 09 - 02:31 PM MIND TIS 5 YEARS LATE LMAO |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: GUEST Date: 06 Aug 09 - 02:29 PM i prefer Declan Hunt singin Foggy Dew an Ronnie Drew singin Oro Se De Bheatha Bhaile |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: smpc Date: 06 Aug 09 - 07:30 AM emmmmm ive a couple. . . . celtic symphony, boys of the old brigade, james connolly, GRACE,kevin barry, the foggy dew, men behind the wire, black and tans depends on what mood you want people to be in |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: GUEST,Nikki Pravda Date: 05 Jan 04 - 07:49 AM The song "The Day We Went to Omagh" qualifies but, for reasons that I can`t explain, it isn`t sung much anymore. "The Birminghan Six" has a lot going for it but I prefer the Renault 4. As for that GUEST,Obie WHAT IS HE LIKE??? |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: Seamus Kennedy Date: 05 Jan 04 - 01:15 AM How about our very own Chordstrangler's "Only Our Rivers Run Free?" Seamus |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: ard mhacha Date: 04 Jan 04 - 02:53 PM That Mauser bullet also got stuck in his craw, either way it wasn`t nice. |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: Fiolar Date: 04 Jan 04 - 07:57 AM Funny no one has mentioned one of the most beautiful ballads of all, namely, "Shanagolden." |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: ard mhacha Date: 04 Jan 04 - 07:28 AM "And a big mauser bullet got stuck in his jaw, and he died of lead poison, in Erin go bragh". I can`t imagine me getting away with a clean bill of health, had I been singing that song in Sandy Row Rangers supporters club. I`m afraid every rebel song is political. |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: Rapparee Date: 03 Jan 04 - 09:55 PM The Battle of Ben Burg is good; it's a Tommy Makem. As for Protestant and Catholic Irish rebels: Roger Casement, Wolfe Tone, Munro, Henry Joy McCracken, Robert Emmett -- all Protestant, and just a very few names indeed out of many. I heard a song about it; I have it somewhere. "So here's to all those brave Protestant men/Who gave their lives to free our land./All the people sang their praises then/Those brave United Irishmen." Geez, the old mind's goin' when you can remember the chorus and not the title or group! |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: ard mhacha Date: 03 Jan 04 - 03:45 PM Did he score for the Hoops today?. |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: Big Tim Date: 03 Jan 04 - 03:32 PM PS: what do do think yourself iRiShBaBe? |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: Big Tim Date: 03 Jan 04 - 03:26 PM "Barley" was on my second list. Ard, this thread is about the best EVER: not about listing every one you can think of! I've now got well over 300 and I only listed about 40 or so. "Twenty Men from Dublin Town" is ok, nothing special. "House of Orange" is about many things (all of which I agree with) but one thing it isn't is a "rebel" song. This is a thread about songs, not politics or history. |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: ard mhacha Date: 03 Jan 04 - 03:05 PM Twenty men from Dublin Town, by Arthur Griffith, may have escaped the net, this is nearly always played by The Artane Boys Band before every big game at Croke Park. |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: gnu Date: 03 Jan 04 - 02:02 PM By the list(s) above, it's impossible to choose. I'll just throw in another that I don't think was mentioned above... The Wind That Shakes the Barley... that makes me think on Ireland dearly... |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: ard mhacha Date: 03 Jan 04 - 01:48 PM CB, I don`t know who gave you the idea that all heroes of the Irish struggle were Catholics, I can assure you, that every Protestant hero of the 1798 rebellion were and still are, commemorated to this day. I have never heard anything to the contrary in any part of Ireland. Ard Mhacha. |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: Coyote Breath Date: 03 Jan 04 - 11:53 AM Well I like Henry Joy. Mainly because it places the listener square up against the libel that all heroes of the Irish struggle for independence are catholic and etc. but too because my mother's people (on grand father's side) were "Ulster men" and from the Glens of Antrim (specifically from Moyle, which was her maiden name) and were all very strongly for the achievment of an united Ireland, whether by constitutional consent or rebellion of arms. My mother's people were (and are) Methodists. CB |
Subject: Lyr Add: HOUSE OF ORANGE (Stan Rogers) From: Alaska Mike Date: 03 Jan 04 - 10:50 AM My favorite is Stan Rogers "House of Orange". In the song, Stan rebels against giving money to the cause. It was the last song he wrote before he died. THE HOUSE OF ORANGE (Stan Rogers) As recorded by Stan Rogers on "From Fresh Water" (1984) I took back my hand and I showed him the door. No dollar of mine would I part with this day For fueling the engine of a bloody cruel war In my forefathers' home far away, Who fled the first Famine wearing all that they owned, Were called 'Navigators', all ragged and torn, And built the Grand Trunk here, and found a new home Wherever their children were born. Their sons have no politics. None can recall Allegiance from long generations before. O'this or O'that name just can't matter at all Or be cause enough for to war. And meanwhile my babies are safe in their home, Unlike their pale cousins who cower and cry While kneecappers nail their poor Dads to the floor And teach them to hate and to die. It's those cruel beggars who spurn the fair coin. The peace for their kids they could take at their will. Since the day old King Billy prevailed at the Boyne, They've bombed and they've maimed and they've killed. Now they cry out for money and wail at the door But Home Rule or Republic, 'tis all of it shame; And a curse for us here who want nothing of war. We're kindred in nothing but name. All rights and all wrongs have long since blown away, For causes are ashes where children lie slain. Yet the damned U.D.L. and the cruel I.R.A. Will tomorrow go murdering again. But no penny of mine will I add to the fray. "Remember the Boyne!" they will cry out in vain, For I've given my heart to the place I was born And forgiven the whole House of Orange, King Billy and the whole House of Orange. |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: ard mhacha Date: 03 Jan 04 - 06:46 AM "And when the hill were bleeding and the rifles were aflame, to the rebel homes in Kerry the Saxon stranger came" from The Boys from Barna Straide. See what I mean Tim, all a matter of taste, you had Terry tearing The Foggy Dew apart, I agree with your sentiments about it, with Luke Kelly singing, it`s up there with the best. |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: Big Tim Date: 03 Jan 04 - 06:03 AM Well said Mick. Terry, bear in mind that "West's Awake" was written in 1843 - so the language reflects this. "Foggy Dew" (1919) - very imaginative lyrics and a melody that takes some beating. Again, tho, a matter of personal taste. I have a special reason for loving this one as it was my late brother's favourite, I'll never forget his guitar picking on that song. A "GUEST" said on Mudcat a couple of years ago that "Four Green Fields" (not on either of my lists!) was in fact written by Tommy Makem's mammy: Sarah. |
Subject: RE: greatest irish rebel song EVER.... From: Terry K Date: 03 Jan 04 - 04:43 AM As has been said, the songs should stand as works in their own right, regardless of the sentiment - The West's Awake is perhaps my favourite, even though I do not subscribe to the view that England should quake. An example of the opposite is The Foggy Dew - mawkish doggerel sung to a turgid march tune, but which seems to be hailed and heralded because it supports the "cause". cheers, Terry |
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