BS: The Worst Debate in History?

Subject: RE: BS: The Worst Debate in History?
From: Ron Davies
Date: 17 Apr 08 - 11:14 PM

So sorry you don't like this thread, Janet. Sounds like you are about ready to take a break from Mudcat and go back to kicking your dog--which, based on your attitude, must be your occupation. I'm surprised you can live on it--who pays you to do it?

It certainly is a shame that life has beaten you down so far that you don't recognize the best chance for hope on the political scene in decades.

We all-- and especially your dog--hope life starts treating you better soon.




And, Sunset John, glad you liked the "debate". Perhaps you'd be interested in the second episode, dealing with the Paul trial (starting 25 April 2008) and Bill Clinton's pardon of Puerto Rican terrorists, among other things. Coming up soon on your National Enquirer cable station. Don't touch that dial.

Subject: RE: BS: The Worst Debate in History?
From: Riginslinger
Date: 17 Apr 08 - 11:13 PM

The reality of the situation, at least the way I see it, is this was the first debate in which Obama was actually treated as the front runner.

Subject: RE: BS: The Worst Debate in History?
From: GUEST,Fantasma
Date: 17 Apr 08 - 10:57 PM

I think that could be partly true, except it wasn't George and Charlie who did the research and came up with the questions. Their staff did that.

No, the decision was made to seriously question Obama in a way he simply hasn't been yet. And that REALLY pissed off the anti-Bushites, who plunked their money down on Obama. They believe NO ONE has the right to challenge Obama.

Talk about a recipe ripe for dictatorship...

Subject: RE: BS: The Worst Debate in History?
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 17 Apr 08 - 10:53 PM

Basically what Fantasma said. This debate is basically the first one in which Obama was really pressed, and his supporters don't like it one bit.
What I found disturbing was that Stephanapoulos, a former member of the Clinton regime, was one of the moderators. A case for the perception of unfairness in the questioning of the candidates could be made.

Subject: RE: BS: The Worst Debate in History?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 17 Apr 08 - 10:47 PM

Threads get deleted for personal attacks.

I am just criticizing the media.

And lets see what The Economist which has no dog at all in the Democratic race and certainly has almost nothing at all in common with ABC "news" let alone competing with them, has to say.... A bizarre debate in Pennsylvania

Subject: RE: BS: The Worst Debate in History?
From: GUEST,Fantasma
Date: 17 Apr 08 - 10:41 PM

What, you couldn't win your arguments on their merits in the 'Are You Bitter' thread, so you decide to start another one on the same damn subject?

NBC is the direct competitor with ABC. They are badmouthing the debates solely to cast aspersions on THEIR competitors, Charlie Gibson and Georgie Porgie.

Huff Po came out for Obama a LOOOOOOOONG time ago.

Olberman is squarely in Obama's camp. He is so partisan, I turned him off immediately last night when he began with the whole "tabloid debate" crap.

Why are the Obamamaniacs so obsessed with regurgitating cable talk show tabloidism here to "prove" everything they say, hmmmm?

If ever there were a thread that screamed for deletion...

Subject: RE: BS: The Worst Debate in History?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 17 Apr 08 - 10:36 PM

Greg Mitchell agrees with you.

>>In perhaps the most embarrassing performance by the media in a major presidential debate in years, ABC News hosts Charles Gibson and George Stephanopoulos focused mainly on trivial issues as Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama faced off in Philadelphia. They, and their network, should hang their collective heads in shame.<<


Huffington Post Op Ed

Subject: RE: BS: The Worst Debate in History?
From: Ron Davies
Date: 17 Apr 08 - 10:31 PM

Problem is it seems to have been just a ratings chase by ABC--hoping for some fireworks. No realization that it's actually supposed to give information to people trying to decide--not just a feeble imitation of Faux News. At least that appears to be the case from excerpts I've seen.

Subject: BS: The Worst Debate in History?
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 17 Apr 08 - 10:19 PM

Last night in Philly ABC plumbs the depths of tabloid journalism.

Stephanopoulos taking dictation from Sean Hanity? Is this the end of his career?

Olbermann examines it.